So once a week I have to put over 3mil sp back into the same skills, and I have to do this every week until release? no thank you

This game, as part of the eve universe, is supposed to be hard. There is no reset button and your mistakes will have consequences. Deal with it and give up on your help me I made a mistake and need a hug from my momma ways. Repent! REPENT!! RE-PE-NT!!!

Why is this a good thing? How would they test the game if it reset every week? It would cause an increase in highly unlikely scenarios which the feedback would become based upon giving bad foundation to build the rest of the game off of. Hundreds of people would just use accumulated SP to become monstrous creations foregoing SP that they probably would've invested elsewhere to further survive but instead, because they'd have lots of SP, they'd skip them and go straight to ultimate glass cannons or tanks and cause "Skipped Feedback"

The DEVs clearly stated that we will have NO MORE RESETS UNLESS SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS.

If you don't like what you have trained skill something else or make a new char.

We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile.

You shouldn't generalise not all of us are eve players, there are more than a few regulars on this forum who just came straight into dust, all of us ****** up our sp allocation at some point. I screwed mine up when I started playing the beta again after it moved to tranquillity, in fact I messed it up so bad I restarted on this character. So I understand where you guys are coming from when you complain and the game does do a poor job of explaining things, but you guys have always had the option to ask for help before you spend any single sp points, it falls to us the players to help new players understand what to do. Besides i believe there's a saying in eve "there is no wasted sp" chances are your probably going to end up using those skills at some point.

You are still ignoring the most important point of all - if you can just reallocate all your SP, no one will ever test out the lower level weapons, so you won't be testing everything, as this entire proposal's point is based upon.

Furthermore, every single player does not need to test every single weapon in the game. There are a million+ characters who are already testing every single thing in the game between them in probably every single combination - you do not need to do this personally.

All the weapons we currently have available have been around for many many months and have been pretty tested to death. These are no longer CCP's primary focus for the beta. Release sounds likely to be in the next 6 months, in which time they will need to have a functional and tested player market and integration with EvE, as these are key elements of the core game design.

Finally, as has already been stated, there will be no more resets, so you are stuck with your build as is. That is not to say you are not allowed to spec into other things, you just have to work your way up the levels and will be forced to play with the lower level gear as you do so. This is as intended and actually works wonderfully as a testing system because it means even the crappier stuff will get tried out.

No reason tp help people too lazy to look up how the game works

While it is true that tutorials and other "guidance" should be introduced to help new players, I don't think their absence is a reason to allow respeccing.

When you first start playing the game without having read anything about it out-of-game, you will choose your first character. Lets assume you pick a role you (think you) like.

Then, you spend the starter SP you've received. Now you could use them on completely useless skills... but if you take 2 minutes to glance over the skills you have and the skills that are available, you should be able to flesh out your starter build with it and not completely waste those points.

After that, you gain SP as you play. I would assume that through playing the game you get an understanding of what you like to do and which skills help you do it. You'll probably make mistakes, or decide that you want to go another route every now and again. But that is exactly why I'm against respecs of any kind. Training one or two skills that you end up not using in your basic build isn't really that much of a problem. Completed builds take millions of SP, so misplacing a say 100 000 is really not that bad and will teach you to think about what you do next time.

So, unless you've created a character and then parked the game for a few months, which means you'd have a massive amount of SP to spend all at once with no experience and/or knowledge of the game, you should learn as you go along. If you still make huge mistakes (i.e. misplace millions of SP) you are, in fact, being lazy (or not too bright).

Now of course, there will be players who don't care about finding out how stuff works, they just want to pewpew. That's fine, but I'm not sure this is the ideal game for that. If CCP does want to cater to that crowd as well, I'd propose "standard progression paths" that would pick their skills for them rather than respecs.

I see where you're coming from and while I still think respecs are a bad idea in general, I would be willing to posit a temporary compromise and say anyone under 1 million SP can have unlimited respecs. Noobs would flit all over the place and there'd be shed-loads of FOTM going on at low levels but it wouldn't last long because even if you only count passive SP (without boosters), you hit 1 million SP within 21 days. If you're actually playing and hit your cap (with boosters) you'd get there in about a week. I think this would give beta noobs a chance to figure stuff out until there are tutorials/guides/more info or whatever else is brought in to make starting up easier.

But that's the thing... if a respec is only for small amount of SP (either not a full respec or only respec when below a total amount of SP) they aren't really needed because it doesn't take all that long to get that amount of SP again and this time put it where you want it. Have you then "lost" the misplaced SP? No, the skills are still there, you might even end up using them one day... We have militia gear to try out play styles we are not skilled for. To allow people to find their niche I think it would be better to focus on that approach. For instance, put up fully-fitted militia suits for specific roles and promote them to new players. This will allow people to try different things and see what they like in an easy way.

you could give a 10 skill reset capability in the skills section, would give a bit more variability, without going too far off in the "i wanna try prototype dropships today" direction, give the guy a chance, i for one, would love to get rid of my nova knives/shotgun operation lv4's tyvm

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