Basically, it's when just one person points out something is UP or OP and suddenly fifty other people make their own duplicate topics to jump on the bandwagon. Take heavies for example, two weeks ago there was zero talk about the heavy suit itself, all the talk was about the HMG being OP. (which people still hold is true, but somehow the suit is still UP at the same time)

Some of you may be saying right now, "maybe if everybody starts complaining about something at the same time, it's because something was changed, and now it's UP/OP, smartass." Well, then take shield extenders for an example then. To the best of my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong) nothing has been changed with shield extenders for as long as I've played this game. (since Replication) Suddenly ONE guy points out that they think extenders are overpowered and now half of the player base is agreeing, but nothing has changed.

I'm just making this thread to say if someone else had to point out something before you noticed it, it wasn't that big of an issue, and therefore not that high on the list of things to fix.
/rant

Basically, it's when just one person points out something is UP or OP and suddenly fifty other people make their own duplicate topics to jump on the bandwagon. Take heavies for example, two weeks ago there was zero talk about the heavy suit itself, all the talk was about the HMG being OP. (which people still hold is true, but somehow the suit is still UP at the same time)

It's been stated over and over again that the higher tier heavies were UP since before this build. Now that more people are back at that tier of heavy, it's only natural that the topic will reopen again.

Suddenly ONE guy points out that they think extenders are overpowered and now half of the player base is agreeing, but nothing has changed.

I'm just making this thread to say if someone else had to point out something before you noticed it, it wasn't that big of an issue, and therefore not that high on the list of things to fix.
/rant

I'm famous! (That was me, right?)

Honestly though, I think it's just the age-old bandwagon problem. You have a few people thinking for themselves, trying to figure out how to do something well. Once word gets out, everyone and their mother starts doing it. Once you start seeing it everywhere, people start complaining about it everywhere.

EVE called it the good ol' Flavor Of The MonthGäó.

With all my number crunching and fit-fiddling, these are the only things I've come to believe are truly, demonstrably over-powered or under-powered at the moment:

OVERPOWERED:

Nothing. Seriously. Nothing.

Not Damage Mods, not shield extenders, not Heavies, not proto Assaults, not Tanks, not shotguns, not HMGs, not ARs, not sniper rifles, not lasers.

Nothing.


UNDERPOWERED:

Dropships.
Nova Knives.


Everything else is either fine, or could be adjusted a bit one way or another with a few tweaks. Nothing needs a serious nerf, and only a handful of things could use a minor buff.




Amen bruddah.

Basically, it's when just one person points out something is UP or OP and suddenly fifty other people make their own duplicate topics to jump on the bandwagon. Take heavies for example, two weeks ago there was zero talk about the heavy suit itself, all the talk was about the HMG being OP. (which people still hold is true, but somehow the suit is still UP at the same time)

Some of you may be saying right now, "maybe if everybody starts complaining about something at the same time, it's because something was changed, and now it's UP/OP, smartass." Well, then take shield extenders for an example then. To the best of my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong) nothing has been changed with shield extenders for as long as I've played this game. (since Replication) Suddenly ONE guy points out that they think extenders are overpowered and now half of the player base is agreeing, but nothing has changed.

I'm just making this thread to say if someone else had to point out something before you noticed it, it wasn't that big of an issue, and therefore not that high on the list of things to fix.
/rant

Basically, it's when just one person points out something is UP or OP and suddenly fifty other people make their own duplicate topics to jump on the bandwagon. Take heavies for example, two weeks ago there was zero talk about the heavy suit itself, all the talk was about the HMG being OP. (which people still hold is true, but somehow the suit is still UP at the same time)

Some of you may be saying right now, "maybe if everybody starts complaining about something at the same time, it's because something was changed, and now it's UP/OP, smartass." Well, then take shield extenders for an example then. To the best of my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong) nothing has been changed with shield extenders for as long as I've played this game. (since Replication) Suddenly ONE guy points out that they think extenders are overpowered and now half of the player base is agreeing, but nothing has changed.

I'm just making this thread to say if someone else had to point out something before you noticed it, it wasn't that big of an issue, and therefore not that high on the list of things to fix.
/rant

Can i just point out something

heavy's are slow but that have lots of Armour
assault is fast
but they have lots of shields

this is the basic argument i believe at this point

but when you do the numbers
you can't shield rep
so this makes assaults a solo tank
but a heavy can get a logi and be worth a lot more since he probs has at least 400 Armour
and this is a bigger buffer than the small 100 Armour a assault has more solo play orientation

so when team play does come into it
assaults will be mostly outclassed i think

Yea, but for every logi you have healing you, that's one less gun that you have focus firing your enemies

3-4 ARs focus firing >>>>> 1 Heavy with 1-3 Logi's repping them

Yea, but for every logi you have healing you, that's one less gun that you have focus firing your enemies

3-4 ARs focus firing >>>>> 1 Heavy with 1-3 Logi's repping them

Yea, but for every logi you have healing you, that's one less gun that you have focus firing your enemies

3-4 ARs focus firing >>>>> 1 Heavy with 1-3 Logi's repping them

how about 2 heavy's with 1 logi repping them both with advanced logi tools
or a heavy with equipment slot placing a thingy that reps him any way

Well at that point you'd need 2 logis doing that, and even then, I'm inclined to say the DPS of 4 Duvolles will definitely outpace two logi reps and maybe an armor rep or two (4-10 hp per sec is lol inside of combat).

It's a nice thought, having logi's repping a heavy, and one I was very interested in at first, but over time it seems that what works on paper doesn't always work when applied

Well at that point you'd need 2 logis doing that, and even then, I'm inclined to say the DPS of 4 Duvolles will definitely outpace two logi reps and maybe an armor rep or two (4-10 hp per sec is lol inside of combat). Also remember that Assault suits are much more mobile and have smaller hitboxes, so even with two HMGs trained on a single target, if they're descent (proto gear assumed, since you mentioned proto reps), you're going to have a hard time tracking them.

Also, range is a non issue for AR users at this point, since sharpshooter allows them to engage even snipers at a surprising range. Their DPS is tightly focused unlike the HMG, allowing for better results when focus firing. Being able to move around and dictate the engagements thanks to heavies having to waddle everywhere, this ensures a well practiced squad of AR users will rarely fall to your suggest Heavy / Logi squad, unless caught unaware.

It's a nice thought, having logi's repping a heavy, and one I was very interested in at first, but over time it seems that what works on paper doesn't always work when applied

The problem is that the full 75hp a sec repair cant keep up with the DPS from one duvolle much less 4.

True, but hopefully the Heavies wouldn't just be sitting there. 3x MH-85 HMGs have about the same DPS as 4x Duvolle ARs...

People gonna die in that fire fight no matter what. Just a question of how many and who will be standing after.