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One Nip The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:24:00 - [1] - Quote Dust really needs some kind of a ranking system for pub matches based on sp or something just saying i dont like murdering nubs
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:25:00 - [2] - Quote One Nip wrote: Dust really needs some kind of a ranking system for pub matches based on sp or something just saying i dont like murdering nubs what you put on it?
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1647	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:27:00 - [3] - Quote Funny, I'm wearing prototype suits and yet I still die to a militia shotgun.
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 97	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:29:00 - [4] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Funny, I'm wearing prototype suits and yet I still die to a militia shotgun. As well you* should. *speaking in general
One Nip The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:32:00 - [5] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: One Nip wrote: Dust really needs some kind of a ranking system for pub matches based on sp or something just saying i dont like murdering nubs what you put on it? gek some shield and speed mods but the only way i get a GG is when a good squad comes in
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 921	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:35:00 - [6] - Quote So what you're saying is that now that you have the proto suits, you can own nubs.......cause you couldn't before
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 97	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:35:00 - [7] - Quote I am really hoping once the universe opens up they will make High-Sec off limits to proto gear, just like it is for Cap ships.\\ High sec: Newb area, simple grinding. Low sec: Where the land grabs are. Null Sec: where the hardcore land grabs are. Just made that up in my head right now so, no doubt its full of holes and not completly thought out.
One Nip The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:42:00 - [8] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: So what you're saying is that now that you have the proto suits, you can own nubs.......cause you couldn't before no i would do it b4 too but it was a bit harder to do it and CCP would get better test results as well seeing what is/isnt OP then just a proto suite guy going in wiping everyone out with a AR and ppl cry its op when really it is not when going against someone with your amout of sp
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 773	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:46:00 - [9] - Quote lol @ people using Proto Suits in pubs tbh. Gotta go hard in pub games!
One Nip The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:46:00 - [10] - Quote XXfootnoteXX wrote: I am really hoping once the universe opens up they will make High-Sec off limits to proto gear, just like it is for Cap ships.\\ High sec: Newb area, simple grinding. Low sec: Where the land grabs are. Null Sec: where the hardcore land grabs are. Just made that up in my head right now so, no doubt its full of holes and not completly thought out. we all know the hardcore live in low sec

DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1947	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:50:00 - [11] - Quote Matchmaking is so screwed up right now. Anyone that doesn't think so probably thinks they have skill because they pubstomp
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 97	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:52:00 - [12] - Quote One Nip wrote: XXfootnoteXX wrote: I am really hoping once the universe opens up they will make High-Sec off limits to proto gear, just like it is for Cap ships.\\ High sec: Newb area, simple grinding. Low sec: Where the land grabs are. Null Sec: where the hardcore land grabs are. Just made that up in my head right now so, no doubt its full of holes and not completly thought out. we all know the hardcore live in low sec My thing, is I just hope they make it so people dont grind on newbs in high sec. More risk, more reward in low/null. And limit what can be used in Highsec.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 921	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:55:00 - [13] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol @ people using Proto Suits in pubs tbh. Gotta go hard in pub games! People bring them out fam......and I'm reactive. So, when I see a proto..I will definitely bring mine out as well. Other than trying out a new fit....I don't bring them out. Bseries is more than sufficient
ZiwZih Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:03:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Matchmaking is so screwed up right now. Anyone that doesn't think so probably thinks they have skill because they pubstomp In Skinweave we trust.
knight of 6 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 82	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:06:00 - [15] - Quote I'm not sure that basing it on sp is a good idea. i have 2.5 mill sp and no infantry skills, i drive a surya(because i'm a jerk thats why). I seriously doubt that the 2.5 mill skill class could take on my marauder with any great success. in the current matches i have even protobears fail to take it down regularly. the fix imo base it on the past 5 match average and rate you accordingly also have it track the number of warpoints with various platforms/weapons to avoid all logi/ heavy/ tanker matches. i choose warpoints because logi's are more accurately ranked with them.
KING CHECKMATE unlight9 14	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:15:00 - [16] - Quote Meh. Protos suits, TAnks , whatever. Nothing Remote Explosives/Prox mines cant take care of..... Yesterday i took a squad of 2 protos Assault and 2 Proto Logis with Remote Explosives. 3 times, all 4. Guess they just cant resist trying to kill that weak looking scout after i provoke them a little and run away.... XD Protos are powerfull, but again. You can get killed by militia gear if the oponent knows his game. Since my incursion AND failure in the ''HEAVY'' world,I've been using ''Dragonfly'' BPO with remote explosives,a militia assault Rifle and some basic mods And doing great.... PLUS proto or not, a good organized squad always beat everything. Its not OP.Its just better. (And Proto heavy UP, but well).
undeadsoldier90 UnReaL. 237	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:17:00 - [17] - Quote The top 25 corps should just have there own server...... maybe as a merc tab... same game modes but only available to the top 25 corps. (Kills obviously). Random teams just like it is now.... I cant imagine how good we would all become if we played against GOOD SOLID TEAMWORK every game. Not to mention it would be a lot of fun to stomp imps on a regular basis.....
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 3060	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:18:00 - [18] - Quote Let me get my militia suit and put you down.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 905	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:22:00 - [19] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol @ people using Proto Suits in pubs tbh. Gotta go hard in pub games! The only people in proto suits that I laugh at are people that use AUR. It's funny to see that they think they are winning when just one death means they lose real money, not just ISK.
KING CHECKMATE unlight9 14	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:26:00 - [20] - Quote Wanna know what REALLY is OP? A mouse is. Mouse > Proto anything....

Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 136	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:33:00 - [21] - Quote One Nip wrote: gek some shield and speed mods but the only way i get a GG is when a good squad comes in So...66 more shields and slightly faster run speed over your Assault B suit is what made you baller? It's an improvement, but that doesn't sound OP to me.
One Nip The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:40:00 - [22] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: One Nip wrote: gek some shield and speed mods but the only way i get a GG is when a good squad comes in So...66 more shields and slightly faster run speed over your Assault B suit is what made you baller? It's an improvement, but that doesn't sound OP to me. its OP when going against nubs
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 390	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:40:00 - [23] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: One Nip wrote: gek some shield and speed mods but the only way i get a GG is when a good squad comes in So...66 more shields and slightly faster run speed over your Assault B suit is what made you baller? It's an improvement, but that doesn't sound OP to me. That 66 more shields and speed come at the expense of the suit having less base hp and slower movement speed than a Type-B, so honestly the AUR proto's aren't a while lot better than the Type B's unless you don't have the core skills to fit a Type-B properly. And in that case you don't have the skills to fit a proto properly either so I'm thinking you just got extra scrubby noobs.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 419	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:49:00 - [24] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol @ people using Proto Suits in pubs tbh. Gotta go hard in pub games! The only people in proto suits that I laugh at are people that use AUR. It's funny to see that they think they are winning when just one death means they lose real money, not just ISK. Last night I saw edited from the edited clan thats well know by the way and the guy/gal was running proto Aurum suits and had an Officer weapon AR Balac and for all that pub stomping the guy/gal goes 5 and 5....WTF?? five kills and five deaths in a group of ve four or was it five folks from the same clan and just me and a bunch of blahberries. Useless blueberries.........too many words in that sentence. Five kills for all that gear lost.......pathetic.
Syther Shadows CowTek 35	Posted - 2013.03.10 02:56:00 - [25] - Quote One Nip wrote: Dust really needs some kind of a ranking system for pub matches based on sp or something just saying i dont like murdering nubs I went 10/0 in my mark II heavy idk if that's op or not ~ but i know that i still have no slot for ammo :P and tbh ofc the best suit type in the game is going to be op
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 03:17:00 - [26] - Quote The ProtoBear witch hunt has begun a new I survived the last one, and I will survive this one.
One Nip The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 03:28:00 - [27] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: One Nip wrote: Dust really needs some kind of a ranking system for pub matches based on sp or something just saying i dont like murdering nubs I went 10/0 in my mark II heavy idk if that's op or not ~ but i know that i still have no slot for ammo :P and tbh ofc the best suit type in the game is going to be op yea but you start matching proto suite guys against new players there just not going to want to play anymore corp matches is one thing pub is another you wouldnt want to go against a proto suite guy when you were just beginning
Chances Ghost Prototype Technology Corp. 20	Posted - 2013.03.10 06:40:00 - [28] - Quote Guys, this game is supposed to be he who spends the most ISK wins. The reason your seeing proto suits in pubs is because we have nothing else to spend ISK on at the moment
Thumb Green Starship Troppers 34	Posted - 2013.03.10 06:59:00 - [29] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: PLUS proto or not, a good organized squad always beat everything. Take two squads of equal goodness then place one in militia and the other in proto; which of the two will come out on top? Barring luck from the equation, the better gear tips the scale in favor of the proto squad. Of course one's pride would seek to deny it; it is a hard thing to admit that perhaps the victory was not sealed by our skills as a gamer alone. That perhaps the only reason we won at all is because our gear was better than our foes. I'm not dismissing a players personal skill; Instead I am merely suggesting that it is enhanced by the gear one uses. When I first started I was hovering around a 0.5 k/d ratio running around in militia gear. Fast forward a couple of weeks and here I am sitting at a 2.0+ k/d ratio in my assault type 2 with a gek and the only thing that's changed is my gear. I've been playing the same way the whole time so it's not that I've become a better player. Yet the only times I see a militia weapon kill me is either when I'm already lost half my life, I'm ganged up on, or because a grenade went off nearby. The rest of the time it's name brand advanced+ weapons. I've started shooting people in the back of the head with my gek only for them to turn around without strafing and cut me down with their douvall before I even had their shields down. I'll be the first to admit that I just need to get better; however that includes getting better gear. Is the top notch gear op? Sure, why not, who gives a f***. That's how it's meant to be and sooner or later the majority of people will be running around in it ;and suddenly it's back to players skill and me sitting at a 0.5 k/d ratio.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 913	Posted - 2013.03.10 10:38:00 - [30] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: So what you're saying is that now that you have the proto suits, you can own nubs.......cause you couldn't before No he is saying matchmakimg is bunk

crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 913	Posted - 2013.03.10 11:31:00 - [31] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Wanna know what REALLY is OP? A mouse is. Mouse > Proto anything.... There are ds3 users who are better than M&K pros. they go 35/2 with the controller. It is harder though, I can't figure out how anyone would get good sniping without a mouse but I've seen people claiming to and recording proof.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 406	Posted - 2013.03.10 12:03:00 - [32] - Quote undeadsoldier90 wrote: The top 25 corps should just have there own server...... maybe as a merc tab... same game modes but only available to the top 25 corps. (Kills obviously). Random teams just like it is now.... I cant imagine how good we would all become if we played against GOOD SOLID TEAMWORK every game. Not to mention it would be a lot of fun to stomp imps on a regular basis..... I haven't said this for a while but.... Something like that would make me start no-lifing in DUST again. CCP add this. To the OP; if you don't like pub stomping with Porto gear then why the hell do you bring it out in pub matches??? It's not like anyone forces you to.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1231	Posted - 2013.03.10 14:15:00 - [33] - Quote Seriously, guys, we don't even have the Specialist suits that have been on the Buckingham market for months yet. How about we just stop using the term OP until we at least have those and a balanced weapon set for each race put in, ok?
Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 47	Posted - 2013.03.10 14:24:00 - [34] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Wanna know what REALLY is OP? A mouse is. Mouse > Proto anything.... There are ds3 users who are better than M&K pros. they go 35/2 with the controller. It is harder though, I can't figure out how anyone would get good sniping without a mouse but I've seen people claiming to and recording proof. Try 40+/2, or sometimes as ridiculous as 66/4 or 72/4 with a broken trigger finger. We have some crazy good controller players.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1231	Posted - 2013.03.10 15:00:00 - [35] - Quote Veritas Vitae wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Wanna know what REALLY is OP? A mouse is. Mouse > Proto anything.... There are ds3 users who are better than M&K pros. they go 35/2 with the controller. It is harder though, I can't figure out how anyone would get good sniping without a mouse but I've seen people claiming to and recording proof. Try 40+/2, or sometimes as ridiculous as 66/4 or 72/4 with a broken trigger finger. We have some crazy good controller players. And most of those play with Aim Assist off. That's the -really- scary part. Of course, it does help that the Dualshock controllers have superior stick design.


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