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Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:09:00 -
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6 man squads wonGÇÖt solve the skirmish imbalance, 16 man squads will. Now I know the lot of you will want to sayGǪKIRA WANTS TO PUBSTOMP!
No actually, I want pub stomping to end. You see a major problem is if a squad of four gets queued up against a random team on the other side odds are you will get a red line match. It becomes mind numbingly boring. The same will happen with 6 people.
A lot of people are traumatized/scared of corp deploy because of this mentality.
GÇ£If a squad of four corp members destroy me, imagine 16 it will be absolute slaughterGÇ¥
It wonGÇÖt, because you will have 15 other of your corp members on your side. Or hell even 15 other mixed corp talented mercenaries that you squad up with. Every battle will be like a corp battle. This is bad for randoms right? It should be this game is about corporations, not lone wolves and idiotic randoms. Perhaps give them an exclusive solo only game mode, or let them lone wolf it anyways. Since odds are you wonGÇÖt always get 16 people to deploy. So you might get 15 war ravens and 1 solo Tritan on one side vs 16 PRO. The battle is still balanced. It will make corporations rethink their recruiting standards, and leadership positions. Past the first 16 man GÇ£A-team squadGÇ¥ can they deploy another 16 man squad or is that all they have? They will rethink there recruiting standards and encourage leadership. Some corps will evolve from this and others will perish. You will have to distribute your talent within your corp and not always hurdle your A-team together. If you hurdle, the odd men out will begin to leave that corp because they arenGÇÖt getting support from the more experienced members.
Currently the game is a dice roll whether you are going to face two stacked squads or complete randoms.
LetGÇÖs take mag for example, you could do corp deploy into pub matches. You might run into STB, DBD, KEQ, and many of the other respectable clans. It is always interesting to have a good mix up. If you run solo in MAG you begin to hate the game, but then you realize GÇ£Hey this clan is always dominating, let me join them. You get a sense of community, and immersion. Your clan will train you in tactics and skill tree advice. Something randoms seem to be struggling with.
16 man deploy will give us some versatility and meanings to corporations right now. Plus rolling with 16 of your buds does sound pretty fun :D MMO is about cOMMunity. (see what I did there?)
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Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
93
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:16:00 -
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what about the npc blueberries if they join a match it will be a squad of 16 verses randoms or smaller squads giving the squad of 16 a huge advantage causing a pub murder |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
732
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:19:00 -
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Yeah but think about this, imagine 9 talented mercs can still fight back against 16 dust university members.
There will be pub murder in either solution, but alot less with the 16 man deploy. The random will soon realize to join a corp! |
Centurion mkII
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:21:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Yeah but think about this, imagine 9 talented mercs can still fight back against 16 dust university members.
There will be pub murder in either solution, but alot less with the 16 man deploy. The random will soon realize to join a corp!
No?
16 man squads will crush everyone. Random will soon quit because he always loses. |
Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:23:00 -
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true it'll be a sink or swim kind of thing either join a corp or gtfo |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
732
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:26:00 -
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That's how I felt like MAG was like. SOLO at your own risk. lol |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:31:00 -
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You already have 16 man squads. It's called a Corp battle. That's what it's for. |
JoshuaEvil666
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
33
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:33:00 -
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Do something about whole teams just sniping at the redline
the spawn camping is not that bad, you lean ways of breaking out when it happens enough |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
732
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:40:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:You already have 16 man squads. It's called a Corp battle. That's what it's for.
Corp battle is 8 vs 8, and you get no isk, no sp. It's also like setting up a date. It's like meet me on sunday at 8 o clock, lots of coordination for one 30 minute round that really bags you nothing but glory. Plus it isn't randomized.
I want this experience all day erry day. :] Plus the sp and isk! |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
909
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:53:00 -
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Centurion mkII wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Yeah but think about this, imagine 9 talented mercs can still fight back against 16 dust university members.
There will be pub murder in either solution, but alot less with the 16 man deploy. The random will soon realize to join a corp! No? 16 man squads will crush everyone. Random will soon quit because he always loses.
Not if 16 man squads are only fighting 16 man squads, come on use your head |
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Centurion mkII
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
24
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:02:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Centurion mkII wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Yeah but think about this, imagine 9 talented mercs can still fight back against 16 dust university members.
There will be pub murder in either solution, but alot less with the 16 man deploy. The random will soon realize to join a corp! No? 16 man squads will crush everyone. Random will soon quit because he always loses. Not if 16 man squads are only fighting 16 man squads, come on use your head
They wouldn't.
I don't know how anyone thinks this would work. Currently if you squad up at minimum you have 3 other "good" players. If it was 16 man squads you'd be guaranteed 15. You are far more likely to pub stomp with your 15 friends instead of 3.
The other team at minimum will have 16 randoms. You have a greater statistical advantage with 16 man squads.
Currently its not always 1 squad vs 1 squad. This system wouldn't be any better at all. You would have giant 16 man death squads rolling face. This would discourage newer players. Also pretty sure im being trolled. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:04:00 -
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16 man squad looking for a match should only get matched vs another 16 man squad looking for a match.(if thats what youre talking about im all for it.) |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
78
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:16:00 -
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So in a situation where people are getting redlined because of a squad of only 4 that are rom the same Corp are taking part of a battle. Your solution is to make it so Corps can now have a full 16 people in a single battle.
Essentially you want to put out a fire with a flamethrower. Or perhaps stop a building collapsing by shooting it with a missle.
Cure cancer by infecting people with the black plague?
Sorry but allowing Corps to field more of their Corp won't stop pubstomping it will make it sooooo much worse. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
732
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:24:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:So in a situation where people are getting redlined because of a squad of only 4 that are rom the same Corp are taking part of a battle. Your solution is to make it so Corps can now have a full 16 people in a single battle.
Essentially you want to put out a fire with a flamethrower. Or perhaps stop a building collapsing by shooting it with a missle.
Cure cancer by infecting people with the black plague?
Sorry but allowing Corps to field more of their Corp won't stop pubstomping it will make it sooooo much worse.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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