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Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 741	Posted - 2013.03.08 19:45:00 - [1] - Quote When I say buff, I mean ANYTHING to improve the suit, or justify the cost of it compared to the B- Series. B- Series = 40,560 ISK ( 2 high slots, 2 low slots, 0 equipment, CPU 216 ) Proto = 246,800 ISK ( 3 high slots, 2 low slots, 0 equipment, CPU 270 ) Difference = 206,240 What Proto suits gets for the 206k: 54 more CPU, 11 more PG, 1 high slot. People say stuff like "Oh the Heavy is a walking tank so that justifies the cost"... funny thing about this statement is that the Type 2 has the same HP as Proto and that costs 13,320 ISK. ______________________________ Let's compare the Assault B- Series and Proto, and see what they get for their money. B- series = 20,680 ISK ( 3 high slots, 2 low slots, 1 equipment, CPU 231) Proto = 91,200 ISK ( 4 high slots, 3 low slots, 2 equipment, CPU 330) Difference = 70,520 ISK What Proto suits get for that 70k ISK: 99 more CPU, 20 more PG, 1 high slot, 1 low slot, 1 equipment slot. _______________________________ As you can see, the Proto heavy costs more than twice the amount of the Assault proto, and gets almost nothing extra compared to the B- Series...in fact, the heavy Proto resembles more the Assault Beries, minus the equipment slot, and that cost 20k ISK. Even the blindest of Assault fanboys can't argue that the price is WAY too high for what heavies actually get in their Proto suit. CCP either needs to buff the suit ( more CPU, more slots, something!) or lower the price drastically. It's not a matter of "Oh you're suppose to have 40+ million ISK by now, so you can afford it". It's a matter of not feeling ripped off to use a suit that every other class uses because it actually gives them an advantage! You think 1 high slot does anything? Please! I'm curious to see the arguments from people against a Heavy buff now. How can
Mortal Maximus KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 14	Posted - 2013.03.08 19:49:00 - [2] - Quote He has a good point ^ O.O .
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 435	Posted - 2013.03.08 19:49:00 - [3] - Quote Other suits are worse off like the scout and should get a buff first. At least your type2 suits work, proto scout can't fit anything good without a CPU chip.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 435	Posted - 2013.03.08 19:50:00 - [4] - Quote Mortal Maximus wrote: He has a good point ^ O.O . There has been some many good points on a lot of other things in this game and yet CCP didn't listen so why start now?
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 102	Posted - 2013.03.08 20:09:00 - [5] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Other suits are worse off like the scout and should get a buff first. At least your type2 suits work, proto scout can't fit anything good without a CPU chip. I beg to differ. We have a proto scout guy and he seems to do just fine. I think the cost of the weapon itself need to be adjusted as well. If you die once in a full proto suit (Suit, Weapon, etc..) you are losing money no questions asked. I mean my proto HMG costs the same as a militia dropship... some thing isn't right.
undeadsoldier90 UnReaL. 232	Posted - 2013.03.08 20:14:00 - [6] - Quote +1 for someone with brains....... the proto heavy is ****.... i had to switch to assault just because of this...... btw zitro proto scout is bad ass....... idk wtf you talking about lol.
KaoticKrusader D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 1	Posted - 2013.03.08 20:15:00 - [7] - Quote +1
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 743	Posted - 2013.03.08 20:18:00 - [8] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Other suits are worse off like the scout and should get a buff first. At least your type2 suits work, proto scout can't fit anything good without a CPU chip. First? Why first? Not like there's a queue of what suit needs to be fixed first or last. My argument is about the suit I use, or rather the suit I want to use. Its problem is CPU... a simple solution is a CPU upgrade, and with 3 low slots...I don't see a big problem tbh. What's the solution for a Proto Heavy suit costing 2.5 times as much as the Proto scout?
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 341	Posted - 2013.03.08 20:31:00 - [9] - Quote I support this thread!
Stinker Butt UnReaL. 115	Posted - 2013.03.08 20:36:00 - [10] - Quote I agree

Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 436	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:00:00 - [11] - Quote Ok here is for the people who don't know a thing about scout suits, a proto scout suit is equal to a type 2 assault with smaller hp and get a smaller hit box. That's being said scouts are the most underpowered suit in this game and just cause you see someone is a proto scout suit do fine against people in pubs means nothing so get a new excuse. Scouts are suppose to have mobility right, yet the assault suit can run just as fast. Don't get things twisted tho the assault suit is fine it's the scout suit and the heavy suit that need to be adjusted. Now to the heavies suits costing more, I don't see a problem. Why? Because a heavy needs a logi and try as you might can NOT be efficient slayer(this is compared to an assault). Scrub answer is if you are losing isk don't use expensive fits, at least that's what scrubs say when I lost a tank worth 1million isk to 1,900 isk standard av nade. So should my tank cost less? Now lets also talk about the difference between a madrugar and a surya. The passive 4% blaster and a high slot that comes with 30 (can't remember the exact number) more CPU. The extra CPU is a joke. Same goes for shield tanks. With all of this in mind a lot of the base suits and hulls need to be adjusted.
Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 118	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:01:00 - [12] - Quote OR, just lower its price. But that likely wont matter once the open market comes along, so i would suggest stocking up on anything you like or anything you think will be worth money in the future. If they are going to keep the market like EvEs. People will have to make the equipments, and before that... they will need the required skills and materials first. I hope it will eventually come to something like this. As of now, unless you only want to use officer, all it takes is time and SP. Money is easy, and even easier in EvE.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 746	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:16:00 - [13] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Ok here is for the people who don't know a thing about scout suits, a proto scout suit is equal to a type 2 assault with smaller hp and get a smaller hit box. That's being said scouts are the most underpowered suit in this game and just cause you see someone is a proto scout suit do fine against people in pubs means nothing so get a new excuse. Scouts are suppose to have mobility right, yet the assault suit can run just as fast. Don't get things twisted tho the assault suit is fine it's the scout suit and the heavy suit that need to be adjusted. Now to the heavies suits costing more, I don't see a problem. Why? Because a heavy needs a logi and try as you might can NOT be efficient slayer(this is compared to an assault). Scrub answer is if you are losing isk don't use expensive fits, at least that's what scrubs say when I lost a tank worth 1million isk to 1,900 isk standard av nade. So should my tank cost less? Now lets also talk about the difference between a madrugar and a surya. The passive 4% blaster and a high slot that comes with 30 (can't remember the exact number) more CPU. The extra CPU is a joke. Same goes for shield tanks. With all of this in mind a lot of the base suits and hulls need to be adjusted. So you're actually saying the cost is fine on Heavy Proto suits? LOOOOL Good one But feel free to make a thread about scout suits and tanks. I made this thread to show that heavies get nothing for their money compared to Assault suits.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 437	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:21:00 - [14] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Ok here is for the people who don't know a thing about scout suits, a proto scout suit is equal to a type 2 assault with smaller hp and get a smaller hit box. That's being said scouts are the most underpowered suit in this game and just cause you see someone is a proto scout suit do fine against people in pubs means nothing so get a new excuse. Scouts are suppose to have mobility right, yet the assault suit can run just as fast. Don't get things twisted tho the assault suit is fine it's the scout suit and the heavy suit that need to be adjusted. Now to the heavies suits costing more, I don't see a problem. Why? Because a heavy needs a logi and try as you might can NOT be efficient slayer(this is compared to an assault). Scrub answer is if you are losing isk don't use expensive fits, at least that's what scrubs say when I lost a tank worth 1million isk to 1,900 isk standard av nade. So should my tank cost less? Now lets also talk about the difference between a madrugar and a surya. The passive 4% blaster and a high slot that comes with 30 (can't remember the exact number) more CPU. The extra CPU is a joke. Same goes for shield tanks. With all of this in mind a lot of the base suits and hulls need to be adjusted. So you're actually saying the cost is fine on Heavy Proto suits? LOOOOL Good one But feel free to make a thread about scout suits and tanks. I made this thread to show that heavies get nothing for their money compared to Assault suits. It's funny when you compare heavy and assault suits That's like me comparing my armor tank to shield tank. I'm simply saying there are bigger problems and solving your proto heavy suit adds little to now value on the game.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 746	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:25:00 - [15] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Ok here is for the people who don't know a thing about scout suits, a proto scout suit is equal to a type 2 assault with smaller hp and get a smaller hit box. That's being said scouts are the most underpowered suit in this game and just cause you see someone is a proto scout suit do fine against people in pubs means nothing so get a new excuse. Scouts are suppose to have mobility right, yet the assault suit can run just as fast. Don't get things twisted tho the assault suit is fine it's the scout suit and the heavy suit that need to be adjusted. Now to the heavies suits costing more, I don't see a problem. Why? Because a heavy needs a logi and try as you might can NOT be efficient slayer(this is compared to an assault). Scrub answer is if you are losing isk don't use expensive fits, at least that's what scrubs say when I lost a tank worth 1million isk to 1,900 isk standard av nade. So should my tank cost less? Now lets also talk about the difference between a madrugar and a surya. The passive 4% blaster and a high slot that comes with 30 (can't remember the exact number) more CPU. The extra CPU is a joke. Same goes for shield tanks. With all of this in mind a lot of the base suits and hulls need to be adjusted. So you're actually saying the cost is fine on Heavy Proto suits? LOOOOL Good one But feel free to make a thread about scout suits and tanks. I made this thread to show that heavies get nothing for their money compared to Assault suits. It's funny when you compare heavy and assault suits That's like me comparing my armor tank to shield tank. I'm simply saying there are bigger problems and solving your proto heavy suit adds little to now value on the game. Well free to make threads about those problems. Unless you're planning on going to every thread on the forum to say "there are bigger problems than yours."
Stinker Butt UnReaL. 115	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:32:00 - [16] - Quote There are a lot of adjustments that need to happen in the game. It isn't the OP's job to discuss them all. And I don't see why he should wait until everything else is fixed to talk about the thing that bothers him.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 437	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:35:00 - [17] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Ok here is for the people who don't know a thing about scout suits, a proto scout suit is equal to a type 2 assault with smaller hp and get a smaller hit box. That's being said scouts are the most underpowered suit in this game and just cause you see someone is a proto scout suit do fine against people in pubs means nothing so get a new excuse. Scouts are suppose to have mobility right, yet the assault suit can run just as fast. Don't get things twisted tho the assault suit is fine it's the scout suit and the heavy suit that need to be adjusted. Now to the heavies suits costing more, I don't see a problem. Why? Because a heavy needs a logi and try as you might can NOT be efficient slayer(this is compared to an assault). Scrub answer is if you are losing isk don't use expensive fits, at least that's what scrubs say when I lost a tank worth 1million isk to 1,900 isk standard av nade. So should my tank cost less? Now lets also talk about the difference between a madrugar and a surya. The passive 4% blaster and a high slot that comes with 30 (can't remember the exact number) more CPU. The extra CPU is a joke. Same goes for shield tanks. With all of this in mind a lot of the base suits and hulls need to be adjusted. So you're actually saying the cost is fine on Heavy Proto suits? LOOOOL Good one But feel free to make a thread about scout suits and tanks. I made this thread to show that heavies get nothing for their money compared to Assault suits. It's funny when you compare heavy and assault suits That's like me comparing my armor tank to shield tank. I'm simply saying there are bigger problems and solving your proto heavy suit adds little to now value on the game. Well free to make threads about those problems. Unless you're planning on going to every thread on the forum to say "there are bigger problems than yours." This is a common problem with people, they don't understand. This is a general discussion on how complaining about prices is stupid. You can't counter my argument so you say make your own thread. I'm saying make a better argument, it's pretty weak, if you really want it to be fixed
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2374	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:43:00 - [18] - Quote ******* lance using logic and reasoning on the dust forums gtfo! :P +1
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 749	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:45:00 - [19] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Ok here is for the people who don't know a thing about scout suits, a proto scout suit is equal to a type 2 assault with smaller hp and get a smaller hit box. That's being said scouts are the most underpowered suit in this game and just cause you see someone is a proto scout suit do fine against people in pubs means nothing so get a new excuse. Scouts are suppose to have mobility right, yet the assault suit can run just as fast. Don't get things twisted tho the assault suit is fine it's the scout suit and the heavy suit that need to be adjusted. Now to the heavies suits costing more, I don't see a problem. Why? Because a heavy needs a logi and try as you might can NOT be efficient slayer(this is compared to an assault). Scrub answer is if you are losing isk don't use expensive fits, at least that's what scrubs say when I lost a tank worth 1million isk to 1,900 isk standard av nade. So should my tank cost less? Now lets also talk about the difference between a madrugar and a surya. The passive 4% blaster and a high slot that comes with 30 (can't remember the exact number) more CPU. The extra CPU is a joke. Same goes for shield tanks. With all of this in mind a lot of the base suits and hulls need to be adjusted. So you're actually saying the cost is fine on Heavy Proto suits? LOOOOL Good one But feel free to make a thread about scout suits and tanks. I made this thread to show that heavies get nothing for their money compared to Assault suits. It's funny when you compare heavy and assault suits That's like me comparing my armor tank to shield tank. I'm simply saying there are bigger problems and solving your proto heavy suit adds little to now value on the game. Well free to make threads about those problems. Unless you're planning on going to every thread on the forum to say "there are bigger problems than yours." This is a common problem with people, they don't understand. This is a general discussion on how complaining about prices is stupid. You can't counter my argument so you say make your own thread. I'm saying make a better argument, it's pretty weak, if you really want it to be fixed Counter your argument??? What argument? You went on about scout suits and tanks, and talking about how other stuff needs fixing first. What justifies the cost of the Proto Heavy suit? Till you answer that, you have no argument.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 909	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:52:00 - [20] - Quote wait buf all 4 of them? or just the ammar one? wouldn't waiting for all 4 heavies to be released next month for balance changes make more sense?

Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 77	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:52:00 - [21] - Quote we definatley require a bugg to even the playing field, we're slower than everyone else, and honestly all the "tank" people say we have mean nothing when an assault can use a duvolle with dmg mods and kill you as soon as they see you near enough. We either need more mods to even the field or more HP ect like they used to, or simply to take less damage than theo ther suits
Yay Adski Imperfects Negative-Feedback 144	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:55:00 - [22] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: we definatley require a bugg to even the playing field, we're slower than everyone else, and honestly all the "tank" people say we have mean nothing when an assault can use a duvolle with dmg mods and kill you as soon as they see you near enough. We either need more mods to even the field or more HP ect like they used to, or simply to take less damage than theo ther suits lolwut? You HMG is OP nuff salad hold the mayo
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 749	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:55:00 - [23] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: wait buf all 4 of them? or just the ammar one? wouldn't waiting for all 4 heavies to be released next month for balance changes make more sense? All four heavies... did CCP say this or are people assuming stuff again? I don't expect to see this anytime "SoonGäó" if CCP didn't mention it.
Mark Burkhart UnReaL. 5	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:56:00 - [24] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Ok here is for the people who don't know a thing about scout suits, a proto scout suit is equal to a type 2 assault with smaller hp and get a smaller hit box. That's being said scouts are the most underpowered suit in this game and just cause you see someone is a proto scout suit do fine against people in pubs means nothing so get a new excuse. Scouts are suppose to have mobility right, yet the assault suit can run just as fast. Don't get things twisted tho the assault suit is fine it's the scout suit and the heavy suit that need to be adjusted. Now to the heavies suits costing more, I don't see a problem. Why? Because a heavy needs a logi and try as you might can NOT be efficient slayer(this is compared to an assault). Scrub answer is if you are losing isk don't use expensive fits, at least that's what scrubs say when I lost a tank worth 1million isk to 1,900 isk standard av nade. So should my tank cost less? Now lets also talk about the difference between a madrugar and a surya. The passive 4% blaster and a high slot that comes with 30 (can't remember the exact number) more CPU. The extra CPU is a joke. Same goes for shield tanks. With all of this in mind a lot of the base suits and hulls need to be adjusted. you cant honestly sit there and say that a 200000 isk dropsuit witch costs about the same as one of your milita tank chassis is worth it though when we sit there and and have less effectiveness than almost any other suit on the feild. also! i really dont care that your little scoutshotgun that guy that runs around jumping over gunfire can rush a assault or a heavy and just 2 shot them you may have the same stats as a advanced assault but thats not as bad as saying the proto assault suit can allmost match the stats of the proto heavys and still do more dmg and are mobile and cost a **** ton less than the VK-1 you also cant really wine about your tank when its only lvl 3 you dont even really have a proto tank yet and still wipe the floor with most of the guys on the ground, so dont give me this bs.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 749	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:56:00 - [25] - Quote Yay Adski wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: we definatley require a bugg to even the playing field, we're slower than everyone else, and honestly all the "tank" people say we have mean nothing when an assault can use a duvolle with dmg mods and kill you as soon as they see you near enough. We either need more mods to even the field or more HP ect like they used to, or simply to take less damage than theo ther suits lolwut? You HMG is OP nuff salad hold the mayo Smh + a facedesk Please, let's not make this another HMG IS OP!!!!! thread.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 360	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:57:00 - [26] - Quote KryptixX wrote: I support this thread! i'm with the Imperfect
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 357	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:06:00 - [27] - Quote lol at zitro's "it need's a CPU chip", someone has to use them.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 437	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:09:00 - [28] - Quote How can put this in caveman... Assault isn't a heavy Heavy isn't an assault You can't compare the two Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 750	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:15:00 - [29] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: How can put this in caveman... Assault isn't a heavy Heavy isn't an assault You can't compare the two Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures? So your arguments for tanks is so people don't spam them in pubs? So you think Proto heavies = proto tank? SMFH...honestly, you try to act all smart but you're an idiot, sorry. People actually think heavies are tanks? Don't know what rock you been living under, but I'm pretty sure Proto Assault >>>> Proto Heavies anyday. A proto heavy most times than not, get killed by a proto assault in a 1v1. You know this, and I know this, and every heavy out there know this. So it's ok to spam proto assault suits, but to spam an inferior suit is taboo? Your logic is fail. No **** Heavy =/= Assault, hence I compared the 2. If they were the same I won't compare...derp. But you fail to see what I was comparing I guess. I was comparing what you get for your money. Go back and read, then comeback with your stale insults again.
Xander Mercy SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 94	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:17:00 - [30] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Do I need to add pictures? yes

Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 78	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:21:00 - [31] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: How can put this in caveman... Assault isn't a heavy Heavy isn't an assault You can't compare the two Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures? So your arguments for tanks is so people don't spam them in pubs? So you think Proto heavies = proto tank? SMFH...honestly, you try to act all smart but you're an idiot, sorry. People actually think heavies are tanks? Don't know what rock you been living under, but I'm pretty sure Proto Assault >>>> Proto Heavies anyday. A proto heavy most times than not, get killed by a proto assault in a 1v1. You know this, and I know this, and every heavy out there know this. So it's ok to spam proto assault suits, but to spam an inferior suit is taboo? Your logic is fail. No **** Heavy =/= Assault, hence I compared the 2. If they were the same I won't compare...derp. But you fail to see what I was comparing I guess. I was comparing what you get for your money. Go back and read, then comeback with your stale insults again. It's funny that people call Heavies "tanks". Feel more like a glass cannon when I'm firing at an Assault and he's taking less damage than I am
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 439	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:48:00 - [32] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: How can put this in caveman... Assault isn't a heavy Heavy isn't an assault You can't compare the two Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures? So your arguments for tanks is so people don't spam them in pubs? So you think Proto heavies = proto tank? SMFH...honestly, you try to act all smart but you're an idiot, sorry. People actually think heavies are tanks? Don't know what rock you been living under, but I'm pretty sure Proto Assault >>>> Proto Heavies anyday. A proto heavy most times than not, get killed by a proto assault in a 1v1. You know this, and I know this, and every heavy out there know this. So it's ok to spam proto assault suits, but to spam an inferior suit is taboo? Your logic is fail. No **** Heavy =/= Assault, hence I compared the 2. If they were the same I won't compare...derp. But you fail to see what I was comparing I guess. I was comparing what you get for your money. Go back and read, then comeback with your stale insults again. Knew I should of added pictures cause this guy doesn't understand again -.- When did I say a scrub heavy was as good as a scrub tank? Never! You assume to much, well that's what idiots do. Proto assault is better than proto heavy cause of movability which is important for every FPS, but you must be bad at them so go watch regnums vids. You can spam whatever you want but don't complain that you can afford it. Do you want some dust welfare? Can I compare my tank to a lav or a dropship? Makes no sense like your dumb comparison with heavies and assault. Next time on "I'm an idiot and watch me compare things that don't make sense" we will compare heavies and scouts!
Jal R The Southern Legion 5	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:58:00 - [33] - Quote Lance ever heard the saying: 'Don't try and argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'? Sort of what I see happening here. But yeah Proto Heavy needs a buff and a price reduction and I guess we'll have to wait until the next build to see if we get what is needed. FYI if you want to explain how something is worse than what the OP is complaining about GO MAKE ANOTHER THREAD! Sick and tired of seeing threads getting derailed from counter arguments that add nothing to the real issue.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 357	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:01:00 - [34] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Proto assault is better than proto heavy cause of movability which is important for every FPS, but you must be bad at them so go watch regnums vids. If mobility is their only advantage, then I guess they won't be needing those extra slots amiright? Or did you miss the part where assaults get 7 module slots and 2 equipment slots, heavies on the other hand only get 5 modules slot, and nothing else. How is that in anyway fair?
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 439	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:09:00 - [35] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Proto assault is better than proto heavy cause of movability which is important for every FPS, but you must be bad at them so go watch regnums vids. If mobility is their only advantage, then I guess they won't be needing those extra slots amiright? Or did you miss the part where assaults get 7 module slots and 2 equipment slots, heavies on the other hand only get 5 modules slot, and nothing else. How is that in anyway fair? This game isn't fair and where did I say only advantage? It's just an important one. You sir need to watch regnums videos maybe you can learn something there cause I can't teach retards.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 753	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:11:00 - [36] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: How can put this in caveman... Assault isn't a heavy Heavy isn't an assault You can't compare the two Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures? So your arguments for tanks is so people don't spam them in pubs? So you think Proto heavies = proto tank? SMFH...honestly, you try to act all smart but you're an idiot, sorry. People actually think heavies are tanks? Don't know what rock you been living under, but I'm pretty sure Proto Assault >>>> Proto Heavies anyday. A proto heavy most times than not, get killed by a proto assault in a 1v1. You know this, and I know this, and every heavy out there know this. So it's ok to spam proto assault suits, but to spam an inferior suit is taboo? Your logic is fail. No **** Heavy =/= Assault, hence I compared the 2. If they were the same I won't compare...derp. But you fail to see what I was comparing I guess. I was comparing what you get for your money. Go back and read, then comeback with your stale insults again. Knew I should of added pictures cause this guy doesn't understand again -.- When did I say a scrub heavy was as good as a scrub tank? Never! You assume to much, well that's what idiots do. Proto assault is better than proto heavy cause of movability which is important for every FPS, but you must be bad at them so go watch regnums vids. You can spam whatever you want but don't complain that you can afford it. Do you want some dust welfare? Can I compare my tank to a lav or a dropship? Makes no sense like your dumb comparison with heavies and assault. Next time on "I'm an idiot and watch me compare things that don't make sense" we will compare heavies and scouts! looooool... but you just said "Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures?"... So tell me, what exactly does that mean? Was that some random gibberish you felt the need to share, or was an attempt to compare the 2? What I got from that is: Tanks are expensive, so people don't spam them, just like the heavy suits. They are expensive so people don't spam them. You have YET to give me a valid reason or a justifiable reason for the suit costing as much as it does. Your "argument" is fail yet again. Makes no sense in talking to dumb people cuz they don't really understand what's being said. Go back to your picture books, apparently that's how your learn stuff in Special School. How is my comparison between cost from Assault and Heavy dumb? I compared CPU, slots, and cost. I compared the 2 and ask why the cost is so much more for the heavy when the assault player gets more for his money. Please, explain to me, how is that dumb. So far the only dumb thing I see in this thread is you bringing up tanks and scout suits and saying there's more important things to fix first. Like you're a dev...lol. As I said earlier, take your tank, and scout suit "arguments" elsewhere. Try and explain to me a reason why the Proto Heavy cost is fine without bringing up Tanks...I know it's hard, but I have faith that you might actually figure out something to say... or maybe I'm expecting too much. If your reason is cost to keep people from spamming them, then wow... face ---> through desk with that one.
LittleCuteBunny Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:15:00 - [37] - Quote I just suggested a price consistency between dropsuits, after looking at several dropsuits. Based on the insight from this topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62806
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 909	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:16:00 - [38] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: wait buf all 4 of them? or just the ammar one? wouldn't waiting for all 4 heavies to be released next month for balance changes make more sense? All four heavies... did CCP say this or are people assuming stuff again? I don't expect to see this anytime "SoonGäó" if CCP didn't mention it. they said next build. And that if they couldn't get all 4 for each type in there would at least be a few
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 439	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:16:00 - [39] - Quote Jal R wrote: Lance ever heard the saying: 'Don't try and argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'? Sort of what I see happening here. But yeah Proto Heavy needs a buff and a price reduction and I guess we'll have to wait until the next build to see if we get what is needed. FYI if you want to explain how something is worse than what the OP is complaining about GO MAKE ANOTHER THREAD! Sick and tired of seeing threads getting derailed from counter arguments that add nothing to the real issue. Arguing with an idiot? Kind of like talking with your CEO. You must know that saying by heart from being in his corp so long. FYI this is a discussion thread and what am I doing again, oh yeah discussing so if you want to make a feedback thread go right ahead
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 357	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:21:00 - [40] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: This game isn't fair Right... so how do you feel about swarm launchers and AV grenades again?

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 755	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:26:00 - [41] - Quote So if the topic in discussion is "Tanks need a price reduction" and I start talking about dropsuits... that would make me look like a complete tool huh...
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 357	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:27:00 - [42] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: So if the topic in discussion is "Tanks need a price reduction" and I start talking about dropsuits... that would make me look like a complete tool huh... I like turtles.
Thor Thunder Fist Better Hide R Die 84	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:39:00 - [43] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: I like turtles. I like em too with a bit o garlic n steam em inside the shell
Wicked Glory Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 102	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:48:00 - [44] - Quote How do you die with proto gear in pubs wtf?
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 442	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:49:00 - [45] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: How can put this in caveman... Assault isn't a heavy Heavy isn't an assault You can't compare the two Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures? So your arguments for tanks is so people don't spam them in pubs? So you think Proto heavies = proto tank? SMFH...honestly, you try to act all smart but you're an idiot, sorry. People actually think heavies are tanks? Don't know what rock you been living under, but I'm pretty sure Proto Assault >>>> Proto Heavies anyday. A proto heavy most times than not, get killed by a proto assault in a 1v1. You know this, and I know this, and every heavy out there know this. So it's ok to spam proto assault suits, but to spam an inferior suit is taboo? Your logic is fail. No **** Heavy =/= Assault, hence I compared the 2. If they were the same I won't compare...derp. But you fail to see what I was comparing I guess. I was comparing what you get for your money. Go back and read, then comeback with your stale insults again. Knew I should of added pictures cause this guy doesn't understand again -.- When did I say a scrub heavy was as good as a scrub tank? Never! You assume to much, well that's what idiots do. Proto assault is better than proto heavy cause of movability which is important for every FPS, but you must be bad at them so go watch regnums vids. You can spam whatever you want but don't complain that you can afford it. Do you want some dust welfare? Can I compare my tank to a lav or a dropship? Makes no sense like your dumb comparison with heavies and assault. Next time on "I'm an idiot and watch me compare things that don't make sense" we will compare heavies and scouts! looooool... but you just said "Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures?"... So tell me, what exactly does that mean? Was that some random gibberish you felt the need to share, or was an attempt to compare the 2? What I got from that is: Tanks are expensive, so people don't spam them, just like the heavy suits. They are expensive so people don't spam them. You have YET to give me a valid reason or a justifiable reason for the suit costing as much as it does. Your "argument" is fail yet again. Makes no sense in talking to dumb people cuz they don't really understand what's being said. Go back to your picture books, apparently that's how your learn stuff in Special School. How is my comparison between cost from Assault and Heavy dumb? I compared CPU, slots, and cost. I compared the 2 and ask why the cost is so much more for the heavy when the assault player gets more for his money. Please, explain to me, how is that dumb. So far the only dumb thing I see in this thread is you bringing up tanks and scout suits and saying there's more important things to fix first. Like you're a dev...lol. As I said earlier, take your tank, and scout suit "arguments" elsewhere. Try and explain to me a reason why the Proto Heavy cost is fine without bringing up Tanks...I know it's hard, but I have faith that you might actually figure out something to say... or maybe I'm expecting too much. If your reason is cost to keep people from spamming them, then wow... face ---> through desk with that one. Whoever in your corp is the special needs teacher needs to translate so you can better understand. I may give lessons but I can't work miracles! The fact that this idiot is smarter than half of your player base has the be the saddest part. CCP stop what you are writing and pick writing it in crayon, maybe then they can understand.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 357	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:57:00 - [46] - Quote Wicked Glory wrote: How do you die with proto gear in pubs wtf? Because Proto heavy is a whole 2 slots better than a regular heavy.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 755	Posted - 2013.03.09 00:01:00 - [47] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: How can put this in caveman... Assault isn't a heavy Heavy isn't an assault You can't compare the two Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures? So your arguments for tanks is so people don't spam them in pubs? So you think Proto heavies = proto tank? SMFH...honestly, you try to act all smart but you're an idiot, sorry. People actually think heavies are tanks? Don't know what rock you been living under, but I'm pretty sure Proto Assault >>>> Proto Heavies anyday. A proto heavy most times than not, get killed by a proto assault in a 1v1. You know this, and I know this, and every heavy out there know this. So it's ok to spam proto assault suits, but to spam an inferior suit is taboo? Your logic is fail. No **** Heavy =/= Assault, hence I compared the 2. If they were the same I won't compare...derp. But you fail to see what I was comparing I guess. I was comparing what you get for your money. Go back and read, then comeback with your stale insults again. Knew I should of added pictures cause this guy doesn't understand again -.- When did I say a scrub heavy was as good as a scrub tank? Never! You assume to much, well that's what idiots do. Proto assault is better than proto heavy cause of movability which is important for every FPS, but you must be bad at them so go watch regnums vids. You can spam whatever you want but don't complain that you can afford it. Do you want some dust welfare? Can I compare my tank to a lav or a dropship? Makes no sense like your dumb comparison with heavies and assault. Next time on "I'm an idiot and watch me compare things that don't make sense" we will compare heavies and scouts! looooool... but you just said "Why does my proto tank cost so much? So people don't spam them in pubs. What is so hard to understand about that? Do I need to add pictures?"... So tell me, what exactly does that mean? Was that some random gibberish you felt the need to share, or was an attempt to compare the 2? What I got from that is: Tanks are expensive, so people don't spam them, just like the heavy suits. They are expensive so people don't spam them. You have YET to give me a valid reason or a justifiable reason for the suit costing as much as it does. Your "argument" is fail yet again. Makes no sense in talking to dumb people cuz they don't really understand what's being said. Go back to your picture books, apparently that's how your learn stuff in Special School. How is my comparison between cost from Assault and Heavy dumb? I compared CPU, slots, and cost. I compared the 2 and ask why the cost is so much more for the heavy when the assault player gets more for his money. Please, explain to me, how is that dumb. So far the only dumb thing I see in this thread is you bringing up tanks and scout suits and saying there's more important things to fix first. Like you're a dev...lol. As I said earlier, take your tank, and scout suit "arguments" elsewhere. Try and explain to me a reason why the Proto Heavy cost is fine without bringing up Tanks...I know it's hard, but I have faith that you might actually figure out something to say... or maybe I'm expecting too much. If your reason is cost to keep people from spamming them, then wow... face ---> through desk with that one. Whoever in your corp is the special needs teacher needs to translate so you can better understand. I may give lessons but I can't work miracles! The fact that this idiot is smarter than half of your player base has the be the saddest part. CCP stop what you are writing and pick writing it in crayon, maybe then they can understand. I see you've completely given up on even presenting an argument. Instead you stoop to ad hominem to make yourself feel better. When you're ready to actually give me a valid reason for the price of Heavy Proto, feel free to share with the rest of us in this thread cuz we are oh so eager to hear what you have to say on the matter.
Wicked Glory Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 103	Posted - 2013.03.09 00:03:00 - [48] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Wicked Glory wrote: How do you die with proto gear in pubs wtf? Because Proto heavy is a whole 2 slots better than a regular heavy. How do you die with heavy in pubs, wtf?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 357	Posted - 2013.03.09 00:06:00 - [49] - Quote Wicked Glory wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Wicked Glory wrote: How do you die with proto gear in pubs wtf? Because Proto heavy is a whole 2 slots better than a regular heavy. How do you die with heavy in pubs, wtf? Nades...
Wicked Glory Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 103	Posted - 2013.03.09 00:11:00 - [50] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Wicked Glory wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Wicked Glory wrote: How do you die with proto gear in pubs wtf? Because Proto heavy is a whole 2 slots better than a regular heavy. How do you die with heavy in pubs, wtf? Nades...

Kalante Schiffer UnReaL. 184	Posted - 2013.03.09 00:27:00 - [51] - Quote i remember heavies not that easy to kill unlike today. They need a buff.
Stinker Butt UnReaL. 115	Posted - 2013.03.09 01:03:00 - [52] - Quote I'm sure this thread will either be locked, deleted, or have mass clean up by morning when the GM's come back to work. In the meantime, it's very entertaining. Poor Vegas.
x-KOR-x Wraith Shadow Guards 43	Posted - 2013.03.09 01:21:00 - [53] - Quote 10/10 Would read again... damn... i got to go buy some more popcorns
Yozora Mikadzuki Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.09 01:44:00 - [54] - Quote You all should feel ashamed.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 762	Posted - 2013.03.09 01:45:00 - [55] - Quote Yozora Mikadzuki wrote: You all should feel ashamed. ^ great contribution...
Yozora Mikadzuki Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.09 01:48:00 - [56] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Yozora Mikadzuki wrote: You all should feel ashamed. ^ great contribution... ^ great contribution...
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 357	Posted - 2013.03.09 02:08:00 - [57] - Quote Yozora Mikadzuki wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Yozora Mikadzuki wrote: You all should feel ashamed. ^ great contribution... ^ great contribution... ^great contribution... ^great contributionception!
x-KOR-x Wraith Shadow Guards 43	Posted - 2013.03.09 02:39:00 - [58] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Yozora Mikadzuki wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Yozora Mikadzuki wrote: You all should feel ashamed. ^ great contribution... ^ great contribution... ^great contribution... ^great contributionception! D+¬j+á Vu?!!


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