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Foley Jones
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:45:00 -
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Random hunch of mine but I'm curious if any CEOs could give me advice on how I would make a successful corp
I was curious so if I ever leave my corp I could always try to make one (buuuuut I wanna be sure I don't waste da monays)
So what are some good tips? In all the games I plaayed I could never make a clan,guild or club (mostly because I never asked for tips) |
Shyeer Alvarin
Dead Six Initiative
50
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:32:00 -
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As the CEO of the Dead Six, I have at least one piece of advice for you- Don't try catering to an audience you yourself aren't interested in. If you are all-go no-quit, don't recruit casual gamers because you'll overwhelm them. If you yourself are a casual gamer, don't try catering your corporation to Hardcore Gamers because you will bore them.
If you start a corp, have at least 3 people start it with you as the first directors. Don't appoint someone you don't know well as a director as they can completely wipe out your corporation by kicking your members and emptying your wallet.
When you're just starting out, never use words like "This corp will" or "This corp does" because it's going to lead to a lot of hate from false advertisement. Be honest with people about what your goals are and give your members a chance to get to know you as a person, rather than just as their CEO. Squad up, socialize, bullshit with people.
Don't dream of having over 200 members that are on every day. Don't dream of even having 200 members. Dreaming big generally only leads to disappointment. So far, only a handful of corporations have pulled that off and even that isn't easy. The more people you have, the more of a logistical nightmare it is to make sure everyone in the corp is taken care of.
Oh. And don't forget that DUST is a game. Pack it with Funsies, not with RL BS. |
VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
136
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:06:00 -
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https://sites.google.com/site/theweeklydust/2-17-13/the-ceo
Check this out, it has a good guide to what its like to start |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
175
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:33:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:Random hunch of mine but I'm curious if any CEOs could give me advice on how I would make a successful corp
I was curious so if I ever leave my corp I could always try to make one (buuuuut I wanna be sure I don't waste da monays)
So what are some good tips? In all the games I plaayed I could never make a clan,guild or club (mostly because I never asked for tips)
As CEO of Blitzkrieg Co.
step 1) get base members around 5ish is what i had but you may want more
step 2) find your focus. ours is to help each other and other corps that need our assistance
step 3) recruit recruit recruit if your not picky get new people
if you are some how convince the pros youre good and worth joining
(i reccoment starting with newbs and moving up once you have solid following and reputation) |
Foley Jones
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:54:00 -
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Thanks for tips so far guys...I was expecting a reply saying "get good at the game" |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
525
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:57:00 -
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Get Friends....seriously
I have the contacts and the people on my side and I could care less about how many people are under our wings, it's about who you know...
I've got EVE contacts so in the future I'm going to be set....I'm looking at you Rees.
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Fraceska
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
127
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:00:00 -
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Don't ever work with Caldari they are treacherous cowards. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
454
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:21:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Don't ever work with Caldari they are treacherous cowards.
Those capitalist heathens would sell their brother If given half the chance. They have no honor.
But what do you define as successful?
I have a really fun time playing this game with my corporation. We are community based corp, so everyone has something in common - namely b.s.ing on comms while shooting guns in space. I guess I'd call that a success in my books.
Be careful on focusing too much on metrics (kills or kdr, or whatever the hell else you use in fps's) as that can create a general vibe of "elite pvp douchebaggery" that can tear your corp in half when things start going wrong. Just be a community and have fun.
No one plays video games to have a bad time, do they? |
Kas Croixe
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:28:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Don't ever work with Caldari they are treacherous cowards.
meritocracy too much for ya, eh cultist? or would you prefer slaver?
afraid to have to earn your place in the world instead of some "god" giving it to you on a platter? |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
128
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:31:00 -
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I am a Gallente actually. We have this thing called freedom of choice. Yeah and we are a democracy soooo that kind of wins at everything. Why do you think a fifth of the Minmatar race choose to live with us instead of in huts on Matar? That's right it's because we are awesome. |
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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
393
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:34:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:I am a Gallente actually. We have this thing called freedom of choice. Yeah and we are a democracy soooo that kind of wins at everything. Why do you think a fifth of the Minmatar race choose to live with us instead of in huts on Matar? That's right it's because we are awesome.
Inferior beings the lot of you. |
Foley Jones
R.I.f.t
123
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:05:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Don't ever work with Caldari they are treacherous cowards.
Why do you think I made my character caldari? >:) |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
74
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:31:00 -
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As CEO of BHD I just accept anyone who wants to apply, I try not to force people into doing stuff they don't want to do, and best of all, make sure they have fun playing the game. I get a lot of people in the corp just because they see how much fun we have in games and they want to have it too.
I'm a laid back guy. |
BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
33
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:54:00 -
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I am not the CEO or any member of leadership in Defiant Kelkoons, however I have lead a fairly successful Corp before and I will tell you exactly where I was successful and where I failed.
The Corp I ran was firstly a PvE corp in Eve Online when we started and we made it clear that we would be going faction warfare at some point. I started the Corp with my best Eve Online friend, a man I still have a huge amount of love for, that was always my wing man for Stealth Op's when we were flying with Morsus Mihi and NC. I trusted this guy and when I left he left with me. We knew we wanted to start a corp, but we knew we were done with null sec, but we still wanted to pew pew. My Brother was flying as well, but he was more intrested in mining and manufacturing. Finally another guy from our old null sec alliance heard we were leaving and wanted a change of pace, this guy was all care-bear, and was cool with having a tr=arget painted on him all the time but hated the logistics of resupplying null sec, and so we had out corp. Two brawlers, two care-bears and a desire to make something.
We decided that we were going to try and make a FW corp that seeded the loyal markets in the warzone with gear, pretty straight forward. Money wasnt an issue, we each had put about 6bil ISK in the corp wallet and we were all directors. Our first task was to get a POS up and running so our care-bears had a place to build stuff and play the game they wanted to play. Next we bought two jump carriers and finally about 80 BPO's of things like Rifters and so on.
The next xtep was networking, making friends with bigger guns then us that we could rely on to make an effort to defend that POS until we had the strength to do it on our own. This is when the problems started.
One of the things we did was start recruiting, and we cast a pretty wide net. So wide that in three days we had gone from 4 members to 50. There was not vetting, and we didnt know what we were recruiting for. We knew what we wanted to do, the four of us, but not what we wanted to to do with a corp. Did we want to go light pvp where we focused more on money then on pew, did we want to go hard on pvp and have our care-bears keep us in ships, so we made the stupid decision of "let the corp define itself over time". HUGE FAIL!!!!
Everyone started doing their own thing and it started to feel like two corps, the leadership, that knew what it wanted to do, and the rest that were there it seemed to have someone to talk too. Pretty much the moral of the story is if you want to be a CEO you have to rule, not be a friend. Democracy is a great thing in real life, but in games, democracy kills guild, corps ect. Free will is not a virtue in these games. You need to tell people what is expected of them, up front and not in a kinda sorta way. You need to tell people what you expect from them, what they can expect from you and what your guidlines are, or you will loose a corp, even if it is better financially backed then most Eve alliances. |
Syther Shadows
CowTek
32
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Posted - 2013.03.08 06:14:00 -
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You need what the players want
and what we want (MA15+)
is big booty ****
(before you accuse me of anything this post is not to be taken seriously i claim nothing and youtube does not limit who can watch that video so i am well within my rights to post it here to people who could potentially be under 15)
(also people like youtube channels just look at this guy )
hell i whana join his corp lol |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
475
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Posted - 2013.03.08 06:18:00 -
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Don't listen to the guys above, they do not know what they talk off.
What you need is a lot of catnip, the only way to herd cats. |
BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
33
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Posted - 2013.03.08 06:30:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Don't listen to the guys above, they do not know what they talk of.
What you need is a catnip, and a lot of it as it's the only way to herd cats.
forget my wall of text, this guy has got it down to a science. |
Free Beers
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1176
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Posted - 2013.03.08 08:16:00 -
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Catnip and free beers
/thread |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1887
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Posted - 2013.03.08 08:39:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Don't ever work with Caldari they are treacherous cowards.
Not our fault you don't pay us enough... |
Mercian Enforcer
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.03.08 08:46:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:I am a Gallente actually. We have this thing called freedom of choice. Yeah and we are a democracy soooo that kind of wins at everything. Why do you think a fifth of the Minmatar race choose to live with us instead of in huts on Matar? That's right it's because we are awesome.
Liberal do goodies interfere with everything and mess it up and there is no such thing as a true democracy EVER!.
Gallente are weak upper class snobs...........................
Ps
Don't take this serious guys, Just banter lol |
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Kray Dytt
THE DOLLARS
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Posted - 2013.03.08 08:55:00 -
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Just one piece of advice I think might help: running a Corp (or clan or guild or whatever) can be quite a lot of "work". The more "serious" your Corp, the more "work" it is.
Enjoying and even being very good at the game does not necessarily mean you'll enjoy/be very good at running a Corp. Even being a great squad or team leader is no guarantee for being a good Corp leader. If all you want to do is play the game, you're best of not being a Corp leader.
Effectively, you're sacrificing "game time" to organise and manage your Corp. It's a different "game", almost. Rewarding if you're good at it and enjoy it, but if not, it will feel like a chore and you probably won't do to good a job at it.
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Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.03.08 13:40:00 -
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Honestly, besides the whole management that a corp DOES require, which problabiy would be covered by someone else, my advice, get a levelheaded, relaxed and calculative mindset as well as providing leadership, maturity being a solid pillar for the corps morale and willing to understand other people as much as posible.
Thats why loudmouth hotheaded and impacient people with no regard to consecuences never make it as CEOs. A CEO never brags or looks down on people, at least not for the world to see. Its called being professional.
Now im not a CEO or clan leader by any matter but I have been around some of the best clan leaders in dust and I can assure every one of them can agree on this. |
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