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zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 174	Posted - 2013.03.08 00:40:00 - [1] - Quote I would love a game mode based solely on objective control. Not that i don't like skrimish. It's just that sometimes it irritates me when matches end too fast cuz the enemy kills everyone. Not saying thats a bad thing. It is a very good tactic to win in skrimish. i would really like it if there was a different objective game mode where clone count wasn't there. I really like matches where it is more of a strategic sort of how are we going to get that objective where that they have without giving up ours all in the time alas... this does not happen often because either my team or the other goes HAM and murders the other team. Of course this would not be the same as skrimish. But i am not a game designer and have no ideas... please post any you all have. p.s. i want the old attack/defend skrimish back lol it was soooo much cooler
Luke Vetri D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 48	Posted - 2013.03.08 00:42:00 - [2] - Quote ^ That What he said
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 175	Posted - 2013.03.08 03:27:00 - [3] - Quote Luke Vetri wrote: ^ That What he said glad someone agrees lol
Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 187	Posted - 2013.03.08 05:14:00 - [4] - Quote I would really like a blending of multiple objectives. For example, I would love Skirmish to have Satellite Dishes (Whatever object you'd like), that could be hacked for an option to remotely hack the MCC. There would be four dishes per match. Each dish would have a control panel sealed by a plate of steel. To hack these objectives, you would need special modules. Of course, someone could attempt to blow the plate off and hack it themselves. That would only serve to damage the plate and destroy the wiring, making the hackers job that much more difficult. He would need tools to repair the wiring, remove the shattered plate, and restore the objective to its full functions. The take-away point for this is that there should be roles for everyone to fill equally. Creating some sort on battle field hospital, where logibros can get free LAVs, drive around and put out drop uplinks would be great. Anything that will involve people in the many aspects of the battlefield.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 899	Posted - 2013.03.08 05:17:00 - [5] - Quote Maybe they could just re-implement the game mode they had for Replication? Is that so much to ask for?
bcs1a River-Rats Mercenaries 1	Posted - 2013.03.09 19:55:00 - [6] - Quote I would like to see these matches be focused more on maintaining control of the null cannons than cloning out the other team. But then again, I would also like to see more people in face to face combat as opposed to 80% of the players in a match sitting red-lined somewhere with sniper rifles too. sadly, I'm not sure that either is going to happen. o/ Bill
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 0	Posted - 2013.03.09 20:11:00 - [7] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: I would love a game mode based solely on objective control. Not that i don't like skrimish. It's just that sometimes it irritates me when matches end too fast cuz the enemy kills everyone. Not saying thats a bad thing. It is a very good tactic to win in skrimish. i would really like it if there was a different objective game mode where clone count wasn't there. I really like matches where it is more of a strategic sort of how are we going to get that objective where that they have without giving up ours all in the time alas... this does not happen often because either my team or the other goes HAM and murders the other team. Of course this would not be the same as skrimish. But i am not a game designer and have no ideas... please post any you all have. p.s. i want the old attack/defend skrimish back lol it was soooo much cooler Sorry to pop your bubble, but slaying and objective play go hand and hand.
GoD-NoVa Imperfects Negative-Feedback 188	Posted - 2013.03.09 20:12:00 - [8] - Quote this is a shooter not a soccer game... although i do agree with bringing back old skirmish
undeadsoldier90 UnReaL. 236	Posted - 2013.03.09 20:56:00 - [9] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: this is a shooter not a soccer game... although i do agree with bringing back old skirmish Wow you have good observation skills.......
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 484	Posted - 2013.03.09 21:23:00 - [10] - Quote Also I want ice cream, the kind with crunchy candy in it. And while I do realize it will be 'communal', I trust no one is going to take more than their fair share, nor use cheap plastic spoons.

zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 177	Posted - 2013.03.09 22:41:00 - [11] - Quote bcs1a wrote: I would like to see these matches be focused more on maintaining control of the null cannons than cloning out the other team. But then again, I would also like to see more people in face to face combat as opposed to 80% of the players in a match sitting red-lined somewhere with sniper rifles too. sadly, I'm not sure that either is going to happen. o/ Bill If we made kills less important then snipers would have less of a reason to be as or now well places redline snipers can win the match take away clone count and now it is the team with most agressive objective players that win Also bf3 did a good job of making objectives important It felt like we needed them just my 0.2 isk
bcs1a River-Rats Mercenaries 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 23:46:00 - [12] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: If we made kills less important then snipers would have less of a reason to be as or now well places redline snipers can win the match take away clone count and now it is the team with most agressive objective players that win Also bf3 did a good job of making objectives important It felt like we needed them just my 0.2 isk agreed, cept for the bf3 part because I've never played it so I have to take your word for it. now, I do have some good games when sniping, I won't deny that, but that's not all i do either so I understand that snipers have their role and their place, i simply don't think that a team full of snipers will ever really be a competitive team in the sense of capturing/holding the objective which is what the battle is about... think about it, if our MCC is down to 4 bars and the enemy's MCC still has shields left and we win by cloning out the other team, did we really even come close to the object of the battle?... no, hell no we didn't.. If we get cloned out and our MCCs have relatively close amounts of damage to them?, then yes, we did.. it's all relative and the teams with the squads whose players work together are almost always the victor as far as I can tell unless simply outmatched by their opponent, but even then, that's an honorable loss. if all they know how to do is kill stuff and have no concept of working/striking/defending as a team, then they should limit themselves to playing ambush which I don't play very much for exactly that reason. o/ Bill
Ripcord19981 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 20	Posted - 2013.03.12 00:06:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah, I miss skirmish 1.0
BlG MAMA PLAYSTATION4 5	Posted - 2013.03.12 09:54:00 - [14] - Quote Having clones depletion is good . Without it the game would become a campers heaven.
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 201	Posted - 2013.03.12 11:02:00 - [15] - Quote Agreed. Skirmish should have a random clone count chosen from options ranging 100-1000. A 100 clone skirmish would be often about kills, a 1000 would be all about objectives.
BlG MAMA PLAYSTATION4 5	Posted - 2013.03.12 11:06:00 - [16] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: Agreed. Skirmish should have a random clone count chosen from options ranging 100-1000. A 100 clone skirmish would be often about kills, a 1000 would be all about objectives. 1000 would be like not having clone depletion at all
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1956	Posted - 2013.03.12 11:16:00 - [17] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: trollsroyce wrote: Agreed. Skirmish should have a random clone count chosen from options ranging 100-1000. A 100 clone skirmish would be often about kills, a 1000 would be all about objectives. 1000 would be like not having clone depletion at all You could also call that "all about objectives". Personally, I'd like to see, when the player counts increase, at least a 50% increase in clone counts for Skirmish, and probably similar on Ambush. Adding a "pure" objective mode (or one with a stupidly high clone count) would also be something I'd be strongly in favour of.
BlG MAMA PLAYSTATION4 5	Posted - 2013.03.12 15:42:00 - [18] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: trollsroyce wrote: Agreed. Skirmish should have a random clone count chosen from options ranging 100-1000. A 100 clone skirmish would be often about kills, a 1000 would be all about objectives. 1000 would be like not having clone depletion at all You could also call that "all about objectives". Personally, I'd like to see, when the player counts increase, at least a 50% increase in clone counts for Skirmish, and probably similar on Ambush. Adding a "pure" objective mode (or one with a stupidly high clone count) would also be something I'd be strongly in favour of. it would be too easy to keep them objectives from far with snipers and tank snipers or with remote explosive campers once you got them if your camping spot has been discovered if you go in the same spot just so you can be cheap again you deserve to lose by any means clone depletion is against campers , removing it it would make the game a safe haven for campers
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1963	Posted - 2013.03.12 15:46:00 - [19] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: it would be too easy to keep them objectives from far with snipers and tank snipers or with remote explosive campers once you got them if your camping spot has been discovered if you go in the same spot just so you can be cheap again you deserve to lose by any means clone depletion is against campers , removing it it would make the game a safe haven for campers Really? Where are the good camping spots to defend C and D from long range on Line Harvest? Most maps have at least a couple of points that CAN'T be easily camped at long range. And if the enemy knows the likely camping spots, they can wipe you out with counter-snipers, or at least keep you busy, while players with well-fitted Scout or Logi suits can move in and clear the REs (you know they can be shot and detonated at range, right?) then hack the objective. Or you can have someone in a throwaway fit suicide to clear the objective for the next guy if you don't want to wait - it's not like your clone count matters in a high-count battle.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 235	Posted - 2013.03.12 16:07:00 - [20] - Quote My guess is that if income is scarce enough, and people want to fight with their best stuff, at least one side will not want to waste clones and many more matches will end through MCC death rather than clone death. More people will be death averse as a result of cost of battle with high end gear.



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