DUST Search - A Curious Business Strategy.

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Volgair wrote:

I will start by saying I am nothing short of a CCP fan boy, however the current marketing practices has me more then a little concerned. Dust is good, its certainly better then 90% of the other games in this market. What separates Dust from every other product in the top 10% of the market is what the Dust DEV's and CCP have said will be. It is not yet at Peter Molyneux levels of exaggeration but not far off. Right now we are plagued by clumsy menus, broken mail system, server lag, video chug, sticky hills, limited and frankly overplayed game modes. The one that saddens me the most, granted the aforementioned are worse, but this is IMO. Only a small fraction of the games projected release content is available for play.

Now on to the reason i titled the thread the way I did, it's because I am seeing more and more dust related adverts. That's fine, I can get behind bringing more people to Dust, but not just yet. Dust is still a BETA, and a rough one at that. The people that have been here since last April know that. New players coming in from a random banner add are not generally so accepting of that idea, and are being enticed on some what a false pretense. I am of the opinion that CCP should save its advert money for a more polished product. The more people that see this game as it is, opens a potential for future player's that are unwilling to give the game a second chance. Not to mention the general community opinion degradation, I want nothing more then Dust to succeed, but it seems like the marketing team is putting the cart before the horse.

They did the same exact thing with Incarna and had to issue a massive public apology and fire off a bunch of their staff. Eve players wanted Walking In Stations content and instead they got one room that was melting graphic cards and a cash shop. All because CCP was in a rush towards the prize. Well not a rush, it took them six years to get that far. There is another word I could use to describe it, but I'm not so cruel.

Now Dust isn't in quite as bad of a pickle as Incarna was, but its still very, very reminiscent and I can't help but feel little deja vu.


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steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 339	Posted - 2013.03.08 12:49:00 - [1] - Quote I think the blunt truth is. If ccp does not deliver promised content or game modes next build which has to happen by the end of the month most people will declare this game "flagshipped" and move on to more promising ventures like defence and desternty. On an unrealted note what's with the lasted shoots all starting with the letter D lol
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 339	Posted - 2013.03.08 14:57:00 - [2] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Volgair wrote: I will start by saying I am nothing short of a CCP fan boy, however the current marketing practices has me more then a little concerned. Dust is good, its certainly better then 90% of the other games in this market. What separates Dust from every other product in the top 10% of the market is what the Dust DEV's and CCP have said will be. It is not yet at Peter Molyneux levels of exaggeration but not far off. Right now we are plagued by clumsy menus, broken mail system, server lag, video chug, sticky hills, limited and frankly overplayed game modes. The one that saddens me the most, granted the aforementioned are worse, but this is IMO. Only a small fraction of the games projected release content is available for play. Now on to the reason i titled the thread the way I did, it's because I am seeing more and more dust related adverts. That's fine, I can get behind bringing more people to Dust, but not just yet. Dust is still a BETA, and a rough one at that. The people that have been here since last April know that. New players coming in from a random banner add are not generally so accepting of that idea, and are being enticed on some what a false pretense. I am of the opinion that CCP should save its advert money for a more polished product. The more people that see this game as it is, opens a potential for future player's that are unwilling to give the game a second chance. Not to mention the general community opinion degradation, I want nothing more then Dust to succeed, but it seems like the marketing team is putting the cart before the horse. They did the same exact thing with Incarna and had to issue a massive public apology and fire off a bunch of their staff. Eve players wanted Walking In Stations content and instead they got one room that was melting graphic cards and a cash shop. All because CCP was in a rush towards the prize. Well not a rush, it took them six years to get that far. There is another word I could use to describe it, but I'm not so cruel. Now Dust isn't in quite as bad of a pickle as Incarna was, but its still very, very reminiscent and I can't help but feel little deja vu. I sadly agree we have to date seen No working example of anything that was talked about last year at fanfest. This game is starting to have a very heavy feel of hellgate London. Iv made this point reapeadly but their seems to plan or sense of direction which kills any game. Sadly people here see to try to defend this game with weak execuises. AT at the end of day u have to work with the market u have not the one u want. And claming that ccp I Owns u nothing or this is a free game is illrelvent. The game is badly built running poorly and as not delivered on promised content if this game was running under a publisher ccp would be facing a law suit or a canceled project at this point. Which is the game only saving grace is that they only answer to themselves. But again that could be part of the problem. Now this above is nothing a hard working guy wants to see. But a bad project is a bad project and somtimes u have to face the music. Stuff needs to be delivered soon or the project will fail as everyone moves onto the new bigs things of which their are many this year
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 340	Posted - 2013.03.08 15:12:00 - [3] - Quote Also long posts on w phone are impossible. Shakes first at work filter
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 341	Posted - 2013.03.08 15:25:00 - [4] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: So, as with many things, SOONGäó. Pretty sure I hate the word soon. :( The Soon is the problem. It's that we have no freaking idea what u guys are working we have no roadmap or eBen what the goal for the next build is. WE ARE U SAKEHOLDRRS start treating us such. And saying u won't dont want reveal corp sereats is bull as everyone openly knows what ur trying to do. And saying u don't want to set dates is horrible bad practice even in game companies. It's ok to miss the deadline but u need to set one to establish some kind of metrics on what is and is not working. We don't need the details but we would like to know what's going on so we know are support and in some cases money is not being wasted