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Galrick M'kron
NECROMONGER'S
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:58:00 -
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Does our implant actually transfer our consciousness, or does it just copy/paste our synapse configuration onto a clone brain? |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
476
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:35:00 -
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It takes a snapshot of the individual's brain activity at the moment of death and then copies it to a new clone.
Essentially, it just makes a copy. the original really is dead. |
Galrick M'kron
NECROMONGER'S
10
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:39:00 -
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NOOOoooo!.. Wait, then why do they say "an instant transfer of consciousness" in the opening? Or is everyone in New Eden materialistic enough not to care? |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:57:00 -
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I don't think they experience it like that you know? When the information gets inserted to a new clone, that clone wakes up thinking that it was pretty much the last person, but that person is dead. So it's like a case of unknown identity. The person walks, looks, sounds, and thinks like the real person, but the real person is long dead. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:28:00 -
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Philosophically, there is no agreed upon definition of "consciousness", so for your question to be meaningful you need to taboo the term "consciousness" and ask your question again with better defined terms. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
243
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Posted - 2013.03.05 21:27:00 -
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Galrick M'kron wrote:Does our implant actually transfer our consciousness, or does it just copy/paste our synapse configuration onto a clone brain?
For argument's sake, there is no functional difference.
Once technology renders the body unnecessary, the immortal self is an infomorph. We're beings composed of experiences, memories and skills and our personal history extends back through many bodies. Ending one body and copying this personal history to a new one to be developed on top if is an extension of the collection of memories and so an extension of the infomorph's life.
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James Thraxton
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.03.05 23:22:00 -
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as the eve world implies, you're connected to a central system that takes your consciousness before you die, downloading it to the system, then into your new clone.
i believe this means that your singular self doesn't die, nor is copied, and that when one life ends, the new copy isn't a mimic, but the same, uncopied mind |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
478
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Posted - 2013.03.05 23:34:00 -
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Galrick M'kron wrote:NOOOoooo!.. Wait, then why do they say "an instant transfer of consciousness" in the opening? Or is everyone in New Eden materialistic enough not to care?
Well, as far as the clone (or anyone else, really) is concerned, it is an instant transfer of consciousness. The implant takes a snapshot of what's going on in your head and moves that info to a new clone, who picks up right where the snapshot left off. Some capsuleers even remember what the transfer felt like.
Really, whether you see a clone as a copy of the individual or as their continuation is probably decided by one's personal beliefs as opposed to any hard facts.
It's kind of like the dilemma of the teleportation device. Did it actually move you from one spot to another, or did it kill the original and make a new one at the destination? |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
479
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Posted - 2013.03.05 23:42:00 -
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James Thraxton wrote:thats why they had issues with the version 1 clones going mad, their instant transfers were corrupted and thus the original minds went insane
Generation 1 DUST clones went mad because they were using implants extracted from the bodies of Jovians.
The true cause is unclear at the moment, but my personal theory is that the original minds imprinted on the implants bled through into the new users. This would explain why Templar One (or Vince) was able to understand the ravings of one of the soldiers under his command that went insane during the Templar's first field test. |
BootStrapWill
R.I.f.t
2
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:07:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:
Well, as far as the clone (or anyone else, really) is concerned, it is an instant transfer of consciousness. The implant takes a snapshot of what's going on in your head and moves that info to a new clone, who picks up right where the snapshot left off. Some capsuleers even remember what the transfer felt like.
Wow, I feel like an idiot now.
I've been approaching the lore all wrong. I had incorrectly assumed the clones (both capsuleer and Merc) were basically avatars being controlled by the original person lying in stasis. I hadn't thought about the logic that states that there is no original body but the clone itself.
On a side note, this does clear up the question I had of the logistics involved in hauling around all these sleeping controllers.
Now that I understand the process, I agree with the approach of the snapshot uploading to the new body. |
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