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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Free Beers wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:well its better than once a year call of duty, and battlefield are going to have. Its offical you should never post again fanboi. COD is epic from day one. Dust has been nothing but trash over the last year. the rate of improvement is a joke. The content and game play is nothing more then tragic. If dust isn't an entirely new game and fast there wont be any left in dust but goons Dust is negative 180 days more or less. Also COD has some horrendous game breaking bugs on console on day 1 like wall hackers, infinite ammo hacks, infinite drop crates and few others. Fun as they where they did sorta ruined the game.
As much as I hate CoD, I won't compare DUST to CoD though. DUST is more similar to BF...and tbh I've been having more fun on BF3 these days than DUST.
Yeah it's a completed game and what not, but the fun factor is what I'm looking at. DUST is just about getting my SP/ISK and log off till next week, rinse and repeat. Wait to hear about what AUR stuff CCP has to release, and wait to hear "SOONGäó" on the next update... which is becoming a stale joke to say the least.
I understand the points that people make, and these days my opinion leans more on Regnum and Beer's pov.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I don't know what crawled up some peoples ear lobes these days however but most beta's are not perfect and are still works in progress. Console betas just plain suck though as most of the time it is a completed product.
Dust 514 barely has all the features its planning to have over the next 10 years. This isnt like mass effect which most of the DLC stuff was already or mostly on disk and you bought access to that part of the disk whent he clock is right to give players reason to keep comming back months after release.
In dust 514's case majority of the assests are not constructed yet, not existent yet, and not even thought about yet.
I know there is a large amount of furstation at the rate of development, on the flip side the developers are wishing for more time, deadlines are fast approaching and they're been in busy mode ever since getting on TQ. Just being on TQ probably ate so many resources and time it is very hard to conceive how much effort it took to make that possible.
After all Dust 514 is a very very special Eve Online Client with different skin and display engine.
Hey, nothing beats crunch time and deadlines like taking holidays almost back to back lol
Again, I see your point, but you're not seeing other people's points. We're supposed to be "beta testing"... testing what exactly? Been testing this same exact stuff for how many months now? Same old maps...they even brought back old maps. Same 2 game modes...so at this point, what exactly are we testing besides out patience?
People want a reason play other than SP and ISK. CCP said this coming build is suppose to be good...well I for one hope it is. |
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Free Beers wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I don't know what crawled up some peoples ear lobes these days however but most beta's are not perfect and are still works in progress. Console betas just plain suck though as most of the time it is a completed product.
Dust 514 barely has all the features its planning to have over the next 10 years. This isnt like mass effect which most of the DLC stuff was already or mostly on disk and you bought access to that part of the disk whent he clock is right to give players reason to keep comming back months after release.
In dust 514's case majority of the assests are not constructed yet, not existent yet, and not even thought about yet.
I know there is a large amount of furstation at the rate of development, on the flip side the developers are wishing for more time, deadlines are fast approaching and they're been in busy mode ever since getting on TQ. Just being on TQ probably ate so many resources and time it is very hard to conceive how much effort it took to make that possible.
After all Dust 514 is a very very special Eve Online Client with different skin and display engine. I hope you realize that the other 99.9% percent of us want real game to play. You treat dust like an academic exercise to further your college education. You being a CCP loving fanboi spends more time worrying about iteriation 5 of the cpm0 circle jerk then you do about playing the game. Stop making excuses for ccp. If I am paying for a game it has to be more then the **** the ccp has given us now. If my aurum was refundable they I would go back to being optimistic. Since ccp has our money now they seem to have little incentive to deliver. 7 weeks on TQ and nothing new and almost 3 months since last crap build that barely fixed anything, worse maps, no new content. Trust me if the next build is **** Ill be banned in short order. To many good games coming out to waste any more time or money on this. Maybe people like you need to quit the beta then. Its obviously not healthy for you. Then the simple fact you're trying to play this game as a gamer and not a tester is not helping the game development, telling me to play more? How about you test more? I am testing more than you are at least. Right now I am investigating loss of modules when you get revived and seeing if its possible to lose modules outside the battlefield. Go ahead ***** and whine about balance issues, thats something you have access and I wont for years with the skill points the way the are. I am tracking down bugs and stomping them. I do community work where I can becuase I am away from my ps3 most of the day and its the only thing I can do while away. If it means answering question in local on how to play, commenting on live streams on helping out the player figure the game out, pointing players to where they can join corps, point them on helping file petitions and where to file and how to file them, submitting bug reports, answering player questions on the forums, brining off site news to this site when the community devs miss out a bit. I would like to play more but I have college to attend to and things to do in real life that need not concern you either scrub. Its a beta, its in testing, its not done, wtf do you expect? eve online?
why you hef to be mad...it's only a game.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cyn Bruin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its a beta, its in testing, its not done, wtf do you expect? eve online?
You're wrong. It's not a beta, "most" companies dont take peoples money in a beta. If it was a beta, they would refund our aurum on release and reset the SP (which they said they would do until it was "changed"). The program is available to everyone to download, there will not be ANY SP resets, sure sounds like a soft release to me. If i'm not mistaken the closed beta testers made multiple threads and attempts on irc to let CCP know this game was not ready for open beta. Think I'm wrong? Look at all the "is this it?", "Cant take much more", "wheres the content" posts that multiple open beta testers have been posting. Doesn't matter what you say Ironwolf you will always defend CCP. I would like to know what it will take to open your eyes to the fact your company is letting you down. Even NOVA posted about the turtle's pace of content release and I thought he was CCPs no.1 fan... apparently he is no.2. There have been a rather increasing majority of games that go from beta into live without any refunds or resets. Most notorious of such, free to play web browser games and its becomming a very common practice on PC games as well as a 'reward' for beta testers by giving them a head start from those who join after full launch. There have been worse fiascos such as STO's 500$ sub for life which is now a free to play game. As for worse beta's going about? FFXIV which has just re-entered beta after 2 years of being launched and taking money. (though majority of it they where not charging but also no refunds either) Arguably I agree game is not ready for public, however we have this inconvient thing called we're on a live server now, with 500k other paying players who can talk to us email us and listen to us in our chat channels. NDA though after that is impossible to hold back. Also CCP needs more stress testers and opened up further for it. I am asking you guys to be patient I am more than asking for you guys to belive that what we have now is not final. If you think what we have now is final for launch build you're going to be mistaken. There are thousands upon thousands of missing planned features and there are a few hundred featuers missing for the launch build. I may have my high hopes of a mid march build but they're probably going to get crushed again, however its been mostly hinted at there will be a new build by fan fest. There may come a day where complaints about TOO MANY featuers will drown out our petty complaints about not enough stuff.
What works in the PC market doesn't always translate well in the console market. That is what CCP is failing to realize. Like CCP failing to realize that console gamers view betas as demos. I've said this many times. I personally have friends that tried DUST, and one of them is a huge FPS fan.
Dude tried it for 2 days, said it was garbage, and moved on. The game wasn't ready for OB, cuz like i said above, beta = demo for console gamers.
PC Market =/= Console market
^ CCP needs to understand this
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Lance
Do not insult my intelligence. I'm also a console player and I view betas as betas, not as demos. But sadly you are correct that a lot of console players view betas as demos. Those kind of players are wrong and misguided.
I didn't mean to pool up all the console gamers in there when I generalized it...my bad.
I meant most console gamers think betas are demos cuz of games like BF, KZ, Crysis etc. In reality they were more like demos than an actual beta. |
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