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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:well its better than once a year call of duty, and battlefield are going to have.
Its offical you should never post again fanboi. COD is epic from day one. Dust has been nothing but trash over the last year. the rate of improvement is a joke. The content and game play is nothing more then tragic.
If dust isn't an entirely new game and fast there wont be any left in dust but goons |
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I don't know what crawled up some peoples ear lobes these days however but most beta's are not perfect and are still works in progress. Console betas just plain suck though as most of the time it is a completed product.
Dust 514 barely has all the features its planning to have over the next 10 years. This isnt like mass effect which most of the DLC stuff was already or mostly on disk and you bought access to that part of the disk whent he clock is right to give players reason to keep comming back months after release.
In dust 514's case majority of the assests are not constructed yet, not existent yet, and not even thought about yet.
I know there is a large amount of furstation at the rate of development, on the flip side the developers are wishing for more time, deadlines are fast approaching and they're been in busy mode ever since getting on TQ. Just being on TQ probably ate so many resources and time it is very hard to conceive how much effort it took to make that possible.
After all Dust 514 is a very very special Eve Online Client with different skin and display engine.
I hope you realize that the other 99.9% percent of us want real game to play. You treat dust like an academic exercise to further your college education. You being a CCP loving fanboi spends more time worrying about iteriation 5 of the cpm0 circle jerk then you do about playing the game. Stop making excuses for ccp.
If I am paying for a game it has to be more then the **** the ccp has given us now. If my aurum was refundable they I would go back to being optimistic. Since ccp has our money now they seem to have little incentive to deliver. 7 weeks on TQ and nothing new and almost 3 months since last crap build that barely fixed anything, worse maps, no new content.
Trust me if the next build is **** Ill be banned in short order. To many good games coming out to waste any more time or money on this. |
Free Beers
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Free Beers wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I don't know what crawled up some peoples ear lobes these days however but most beta's are not perfect and are still works in progress. Console betas just plain suck though as most of the time it is a completed product.
Dust 514 barely has all the features its planning to have over the next 10 years. This isnt like mass effect which most of the DLC stuff was already or mostly on disk and you bought access to that part of the disk whent he clock is right to give players reason to keep comming back months after release.
In dust 514's case majority of the assests are not constructed yet, not existent yet, and not even thought about yet.
I know there is a large amount of furstation at the rate of development, on the flip side the developers are wishing for more time, deadlines are fast approaching and they're been in busy mode ever since getting on TQ. Just being on TQ probably ate so many resources and time it is very hard to conceive how much effort it took to make that possible.
After all Dust 514 is a very very special Eve Online Client with different skin and display engine. I hope you realize that the other 99.9% percent of us want real game to play. You treat dust like an academic exercise to further your college education. You being a CCP loving fanboi spends more time worrying about iteriation 5 of the cpm0 circle jerk then you do about playing the game. Stop making excuses for ccp. If I am paying for a game it has to be more then the **** the ccp has given us now. If my aurum was refundable they I would go back to being optimistic. Since ccp has our money now they seem to have little incentive to deliver. 7 weeks on TQ and nothing new and almost 3 months since last crap build that barely fixed anything, worse maps, no new content. Trust me if the next build is **** Ill be banned in short order. To many good games coming out to waste any more time or money on this. Maybe people like you need to quit the beta then. Its obviously not healthy for you. Then the simple fact you're trying to play this game as a gamer and not a tester is not helping the game development, telling me to play more? How about you test more? I am testing more than you are at least. Right now I am investigating loss of modules when you get revived and seeing if its possible to lose modules outside the battlefield. Go ahead ***** and whine about balance issues, thats something you have access and I wont for years with the skill points the way the are. I am tracking down bugs and stomping them. I do community work where I can becuase I am away from my ps3 most of the day and its the only thing I can do while away. If it means answering question in local on how to play, commenting on live streams on helping out the player figure the game out, pointing players to where they can join corps, point them on helping file petitions and where to file and how to file them, submitting bug reports, answering player questions on the forums, brining off site news to this site when the community devs miss out a bit. I would like to play more but I have college to attend to and things to do in real life that need not concern you either scrub. Its a beta, its in testing, its not done, wtf do you expect? eve online?
Listen up *****. CCP may call this game a beta but as long as they take my money its a ******* REAL GAME. Only a nieve brainwashed fanboi like yourself can't see that.
There are a lot of people that contrbute to this community not just your self fanboi. Don't expect some sort of "oh he looks for bugs, we should listen to him" bullshit to ride.
All you ever ******* do is blindly defend ccp. Stop trying to get a job with them and play the game for what it is and tell the truth. I have high expectations for the next build. If ccp fails then I and many other players wont care because we will be playing something else.
Then you will have a new batch of players to say "O well it was just released. What do you expect?" Then a year later "Game is only a year old. Eve was bad still 1 year in and look how far it has come"
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Free Beers
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Posted - 2013.03.05 21:58:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Just a heads up, there have been plenty of unreleased games that cost money. Remember that last NFS demo that cost like 20 bucks? Or Dissidia 012: Duodiecium Prologus? And how about the Planetside 2 beta last year? This scene look familiar? And the money you spent here was voluntary, not necessary for you to get to play. If you regret your purchases, that's your fault for spending your money on an unfinished product, not CCP's. Also, you are getting far to excited over this. Let it play out. If you want to leave, then leave. No one is twisting your arm here. Leave and come back when you feel it's lived up to your expectations if it ever does, but don't blast others for having faith in CCP just because you feel you were let down. YOU are the one keeping you here, go play COD since you feel it's so "epic from the start". Go play Planetside 2. Play BF. Hell, play ANYTHING ELSE, but unless you are going to be constructive, quit mucking up the forum with pointless whining about how bad the game is and how slow it's progressing even though you spent money on it. That does absolutely nothing to help things along here. You want it to progress faster? Maybe quit starting arguments like this so we can have constructive conversations without getting distracted by this kind of BS.
I contribute constructively all the time. Check my threads before you open your mouth kid
If you pay ******* attention to any or all of IWS posts he is the one that shows up and bashes people that create threads. Its not the other way around. If someone has issue with CCP he swoops in as super CCP fanboi to say "Its just a beta". How is that constructive? It's not if you are being honest.
So its not me that starts **** with iws and is CCP fanboi-ness. He sucks as this game and spends his free time in an academic circle jerk theory crafing dust **** no one cares about. I'm just here to call him out on it.
The reason I mention "paying for beta" is CCP themselves said (and I paraphrase as i dont have quote on my pc) that "no one should pay for a beta". So CCP assured us we would get aurum refunds until go live. Devs on irc told us "its not a offical release" or "it's not full release". When we moved to TQ there was no aurum discussion or notice from CCP. All they said was no more resets. Resets always had to do with sp never aurum. Once ccp got called on it what did they do? no public statement or dust forum post. They simply changed the wording of purchase agreement after the fact.
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Free Beers
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Posted - 2013.03.06 19:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Do I sense a feeling of jealousy? Do I sense a notion of ignorance as well? Do you realize that I mostly test the game, write down problems and submit bug reports while they're fresh on my mind? Do you realize that I take testing priorities over gaming priorities? Do you realize that as much as I would love to play the game, due to real life priorities which makes playing the game even possible have to tended to?
So lets break this down...
Last kills states reset was Jan 10th, there have been 55 regular days since then. Of which only 16 of those are weekends which I normally don't play so that reduces the number of days to 39 Days
I get one hour much less on a business day give or take to play dust 514. While I would like to play dust much longer I have things to do as mentioned earlier.
Matches are give or take 20 minutes apart with down time between for restocks, skill upgrades, logging bugs, issues, stats, thoughts on weapons used and trying to recall any abnormalities of that fight if any, shopping new items and the sorts of breaks plus the spin up to the next match. I also check posts between matches to make sure what I experience is not already logged or unique on the forums this takes time as well as people don't catalog their bug naming conventions.
So that makes it about 48 kills a day if it where to be spread out on days I can or could play and well there are times I have less than an hour to play in. So there are and have to be days I do well over 48 kills in less than an hour to make for days I have missed during the business days.
Now you want to talk about team work? what about the logistics with only 500 kills since reset? yet he has more WP than you and I combined? is he a scrub?
Or what about that guy with 4000 kills but 0.25 win loss ratio? you call these guys scrubs all the time but according to your newest statement he's a big boy?
Or how about that ash-lands skirmish mode is the only one tracking kills for a few days and took sometime to fix? Oh you're too busy e-peen stroking your latestunphased kdr was during that time probably.
The point is I don't play at all I TEST the beta.
You can't test beta unless you play beta. I've seen you play and you are so bad your not good enough to be called a scrub. Unless you are giving game feedback from a bad players point of veiw I don't get what real contributions you make to the game. Well, except free kills to the other team
Lets talk team work.
I'm a logi with more then 4k kills, 5kdr, 4+ w/l ratio, and lots of war points. I also will squad with anyone and I am not an squad elitiest (I do die a lot and swear about it). I think I proved Regnums point just fine.
If someone wants to have a constructive discussion about combat mechanics would they pick me or you? I would win by default because you would be to busy theory crafting in the irc circle jerk channel instead of playing the damn game.
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Free Beers
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
And that entities you an opinion over a casual gamer who's gear behind and having to deal with scubs with prototype gear?
Let me counter that your opinion is less valid because you have a formulated an idea of 'how things should be.'
Also the way you're pointing out your own arrogance and unwelcoming tone on how your pro club is its own special circle jerk as you like to call it is far more exclusive and much more entitled than any other 'club' in the game and that your opinion matters more than anyone else including the scrubs the new guys the casuals the freebies or payers or the very cannon fodder in your own squad, because I have never particularly recall anyone special in your squads. and unlike Regnum I have seen you twice since reset.
So you claim to represent the low skill low sp point of veiw in dust? Fair enough then I'll let you have that. As for my tone please take as me laughing at you, not with you. I am embarrassed for you and that fact that you have to defend your CCP fanboi every time you post. You can't even constructively discuss anything that doesn't paint ccp in a good light. I have no problem saying when CCP is awesome and when they fail. It's never personal as I'd still buy them a few beers if I could.
All fps games if done properly are scaled to skill and balance at the top, not the bottom. This game will fail if ccp says "we should listen to the casual scrub player who would rather do pve then pvp. That will make dust better." When you play at the limits of the game you see things differently and how they impact play. dust has to balance gear and vehicles for corp battles not public play. Why? Thats the part of dust that matters. Thats where we interact with EvE.
I am part of a club, but its one for people that are honest regarding the current state of dust. Its a big club too.
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:25:00 -
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JAG ONE wrote:Hey guys. Old time beta tester here.. left last summer when the game started going down hill. I thought I would come back to see how the game is progressing, and this thread pretty much sums things up for me. Nice to see some of you old timers still here.. beers, noc, cyn.. had a blast playing with you guys back in the day.
I once had great expectations for this game, but lost faith in CCP's ability to deliver.. I'm amazed you guys have hung in there this long.. LOL
Guess I'll download the game to see what's new, but I'm not very optimistic from what I'm reading here..
Long time no see JAG. send me a message in game when you get up and running. |
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