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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:05:00 -
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Part 3 on Fixing tanks. The Shield Hardeners
Currently Shield tanks dominate Vehicle play because of the broken dmg mods but once those are fixed shields will be a bit ****** with broken missiles (proposed fix ) and ****** hardeners.
First off DONT even think about nerfing anything armor related. BUFF the shield hardeners, 10 secs is pathetic with a 30sec cooldown time.
ATM it isnt a problem because ur broken dmg mods means tank fights dont last more than 10 secs anyway. Shield Hardeners need to be buffed to 20-25 secs imo. 10 secs is way too low, by the time u activate them ur already lookin to leave whatever hotzone ur in because just as fast as u activate them they are done.
These will need a buff once dmg mods are fixed tbqh |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:10:00 -
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Yes,yes and yes. Reading my mind. I hope more tankers read this all and support this.
Please ccp! |
Lillica Skysweeper
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:17:00 -
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Praise you for giving accurate and meaningful feedback about tanks, as opposed to the one sided overall nerf or overall buff posts. To your entire series of tank refinement threads, especially missiles, I say, "Expertly done!"
+1 |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:40:00 -
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+1 |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:05:00 -
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from what I've seen armor tanks dominate vehicle vs vehicle but shields are better vs infantry. then again I don't use damage mods on anything other then my glass fit.... |
Charlotte O'Dell
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:53:00 -
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+1 |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
484
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:03:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:from what I've seen armor tanks dominate vehicle vs vehicle but shields are better vs infantry. then again I don't use damage mods on anything other then my glass fit....
Its the opposite. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
995
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:30:00 -
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As a Myron pilot I have to agree that shield hardeners are a poor joke played on shield pilots. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:46:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:from what I've seen armor tanks dominate vehicle vs vehicle but shields are better vs infantry. then again I don't use damage mods on anything other then my glass fit....
take it from me when i say ur wrong.
u just havent met any real tankers yet in corp play to show u how a rail fit dominates and since shields can keep their HP high while still fitting broken dmg mods as seen in part 1 u will see just how bad it really is for armor that suppose to have a high defense.
Only reason u think shields are better vs infantry is because nubs still using swarms and explosive type weapons on shield tanks |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:40:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Thor Thunder Fist wrote:from what I've seen armor tanks dominate vehicle vs vehicle but shields are better vs infantry. then again I don't use damage mods on anything other then my glass fit.... take it from me when i say ur wrong. u just havent met any real tankers yet in corp play to show u how a rail fit dominates and since shields can keep their HP high while still fitting broken dmg mods as seen in part 1 u will see just how bad it really is for armor that suppose to have a high defense. Only reason u think shields are better vs infantry is because nubs still using swarms and explosive type weapons on shield tanks
I did encounter an enemy sagaris with a rail fit in a corp match which pretty much sat in the red line and sniped my tank to oblivion because I had no idea where he was... I'm fine with them out ranging me but get them inside the red line so I can fire back... as I'm typing this I am thinking this last part might belong in part 1.... |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2344
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:45:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Thor Thunder Fist wrote:from what I've seen armor tanks dominate vehicle vs vehicle but shields are better vs infantry. then again I don't use damage mods on anything other then my glass fit.... take it from me when i say ur wrong. u just havent met any real tankers yet in corp play to show u how a rail fit dominates and since shields can keep their HP high while still fitting broken dmg mods as seen in part 1 u will see just how bad it really is for armor that suppose to have a high defense. Only reason u think shields are better vs infantry is because nubs still using swarms and explosive type weapons on shield tanks I did encounter an enemy sagaris with a rail fit in a corp match which pretty much sat in the red line and sniped my tank to oblivion because I had no idea where he was... I'm fine with them out ranging me but get them inside the red line so I can fire back... as I'm typing this I am thinking this last part might belong in part 1....
u still wont win
read part on why u wont win even if u do manage to get in close
whenever ccp fixes dmg mods then u can take risks and possibly beat a rail fit in cqc but atm rails dominate long mid and short range vehicle fights and that shouldnt be the case |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
340
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:05:00 -
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it's not just shield hardeners that need a buff also shield reppers are pathetic. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
342
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:08:00 -
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why shouldn't a railgun dominate at long mid and short range vehicle on vehicle? it's an AV weapon. That's what they are designed for. missiles and blasters were supposed to be for anti infantry not for AV. It's sounds to me you want blasters to be all singing all dancing I win weapons.
(edit sorry wrong thread) but it was a response to your other thread |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
303
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:16:00 -
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All shield modules are pathetic really when you compare them to armor.
But yes they need to buff shield hardeners for sure. But also they need to look at all the other modules and do careful tweaking. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:23:00 -
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Why do tankers still believe that Shield TD beats armor TD everytime?
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
223
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:32:00 -
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+1 |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
9
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:46:00 -
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yea... no shield hardeners work the way they are ment to. i don't mean to burst peoples bubbles but shields already get a bonus from the most common AV weapons AV nade and swarms much more is asking for shield tanks that are much harder to kill then armor tanks which is a no-go. as it stands armor(same LVL of sp and isk) only are slightly harder for AV which is right where they both need to be at. i have a fun enought time chasing down tanks cycling hardeners both armor and shield with AV so yea no reason to make shields a clear cut winner between the two. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1175
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:58:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Part 3 on Fixing tanks. The Shield Hardeners Currently Shield tanks dominate Vehicle play because of the broken dmg mods but once those are fixed shields will be a bit ****** with broken missiles ( proposed fix ) and ****** hardeners. First off DONT even think about nerfing anything armor related. BUFF the shield hardeners, 10 secs is pathetic with a 30sec cooldown time. ATM it isnt a problem because ur broken dmg mods means tank fights dont last more than 10 secs anyway. Shield Hardeners need to be buffed to 20-25 secs imo. 10 secs is way too low, by the time u activate them ur already lookin to leave whatever hotzone ur in because just as fast as u activate them they are done. These will need a buff once dmg mods are fixed tbqh
Broken missiles ? My main tanker in WTF uses them lately and seems to like them a lot. |
nakaya indigene
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
48
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Posted - 2013.03.08 00:06:00 -
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+1 yes
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