We been saying the complete opposite .... The cap from DS3 to a KB/M setup is very small.

And by the way, i do use a "Gamepad" for some PC games too... in fact all of them. My favorite setup is Gamepad left hand, mouse in the right hand.. I do that in all PC games.

Ah yes the same people who think that dust will fail on consoles and that somehow putting it on the pc will make it instantly better and successful.

Said it plenty of times before say it again. Each has advantages and disadvantages. For the avg player they will see improvement in mouse with aim precision but are thrown off by the utter nonutility of kb control.

Which is why many use hybrid setups.

As far as precision with one vs the other, again for many at the top end it doesnt matter(many imps and other leet gamers use ds3)


But for the avg player yes you will see better results in aim over time with mouse;

Sorry that above statement isnt disputable; there are exception but you arent going to beat me on a debate about the physiological and anatomical capabilities of the thumb joint vs the combined actions of the wrist, elbow and shoulder joint. As well as fine and gross motor control differences in the thumb vs the claw grip.


Anyway long story short yes there are inherent anatomical, physical advantage that should make mouse play more precise but it can be overcome or limited, or gamepad can be enhanced.

This game has done a decent job of minimizing the differences, and have done it pretty well.

At the end of the day to each is own, and players who bring their own biases into the arguement without empiric evidence to back their claims need to STFU because i just facepalm and lol and then will troll relentlessly.


That said OP makes a good point and PC elitists need to also STFU and get used to the fact that you're in our backyard now, quit the QQ or GTFO.

So you tired to a use a KB+M for a short period of time and failed. Instead of mastering it, you when back to Game pad, and then concluded that their is no difference between the gamepad and KB+M.

Once again we have another forum FPS expert. Based on his one experience on one game, knows everything when it comes to KB+M vs DS3.

This OP further proves why these forums do more harm then good for new players.

Thank you

Lmao, the only reason KB/M players aren't completely and utterly dominating the gamepad players are for the below reasons,

1) The game is built for gamepads. Turnspeeds are slow, try playing Quake 2 competitively on a gamepad, lmao.

2) Good aim isn't that important in the game. Headshots don't have anywhere near the same importance and gameplay on the whole is much slower with engagements often taking place across greater distances where you do not need quick reflexes or large quick adjustments of your aim.

3) Infantry play is only a part of the game.

4) With high amounts of SP and a little isk investment you can have a considerable advantage over other players, big enough to compensate for your lack of accuracy

5) KB/M players are only a portion of the population, you can feed off other gamepad players and feel that you're doing good.

Anyone who says gamepad is equal or better than M/KB for FPS gameplay is just flat out wrong however.

If you can't not understand the difference between the two, and the advantages KB+M has over Gamepad then I'm not gonna waste my breath.

My problem with you, is that you believe your personal preference is fact. In your OP you argue this,



then you go on justify this by saying how much better you're with a Gamepad.

Like I said Im done wasting my time, there is a clear advantages for a KB+M over gamepad. if you can't understand it then maybe you should do some research rather then your argue with just your personal opinion.

Incorrect, the first FPS shooters ever made were on PC and we were playing Castle Wolfenstein, Quake, Duke Nuken etc. with a mouse and keyboard in the early 1980's. I was playing the first shooters with a mouse and KB when a lot of gamers were not even born or in diapers and SONY was cranking out cassette players called the walkman and were over a decade from getting into the gaming market.

Change for change sake is not necessarily progress. Just because it's new does not make it better. I shave with a straight razor, now compare that with the "evolutionary" mach 3 disposable trash. New is not always better. Just because it's old does not make it bad.

lol i love these threads i get accused of being a kb/m player and i use controller but i dont see mutch dif when you get good ive been told kb/m is better then controller but i just cant do with a kb/m what i can with a controller maybe i need to spend more time on kb/m but i just dont like it and pro lvl isnt mutch dif on kb/m vs controller watch some vids

Fact of the matter is, all the trashtalk about controller being 'equal' is just ignorance speaking. Turn off aim assistance in options, then to play against KB/M users in this game. Mouse users do not need any assistance, and actually have a limiter (which DPI adjustable mice can bypass somewhat) that makes it harder to turn. Make a video of controllers without aim assistance and post it here, if you actually manage to get more than one or two kills with an assault rifle or shotgun with it off, I will give you 5 million ISK once trade is put in.

No, that isn't a joke.

I'd be happy to duel you one day, once that is put in :)

It really comes down to everyone hates the 3 controller types of Dust514 , but only two are required for release since its a PS3 exclusive. The adding of the keyboard and mouse was a mistake that was added in fear of losing its Eve players. As I have said before as long as their is a shadow of a doubt of the kb/m being better there is a problem with Dust514. The fact that these threads have been around for over 7 months shows their is more than a shadow of doubt that works against Dust.