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crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.03.02 19:31:00 -
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100% agree.
Making them cost equal amounts isk as prototype + Aur would make them not pay to win. |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.03.02 19:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Aurum allows you to do more faster.
No, Aurum is now letting players skip the isk requirements to replace losses.
Logi Bro wrote:...Well, since you've spent so much time leveling your character (you said as much in your post) then you can use the level 5 proto suits, right? So it's not really pay to win if you can compete with them at their level.
When CCP releases tech-2 and makes it AUR only you can come back and say I told you so.
you are also ignoring how this lets people play without isk. While I lose my level 5 dropsuits that took me so long to get for isk, I take huge loses. However 160AuR is stupidly cheap, it's not even in line with the rest of the items isk/Aur wise. |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.03.02 19:41:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:They really should have it at lvl 4 though. lvl 3 is a little too early.
This would also help a ton. Considering match making is based on total sp, this means people with less sp are using protogear in insta matche, how is that not pay to win ? |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.03.03 09:29:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Aurum allows you to do more faster. No, Aurum is now letting players skip the isk requirements to replace losses. . I can grind ambush matches for ISK, all they're doing is replacing time with money. "Time is money", remember?
But one day every item being sold for isk will be player created, Aur bypasses that. It needs to e held to lower tier gear, nothing above advanced or playermade items will be no stronger than something people can buy for money and the ruins the whole point of a real world economy
By making the Aur upgrades something players use to create items to then less for isk, Aur is still spent, but isk and manufacturing still come into play.
This is important for the long term goals of this game. |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.03.03 09:32:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Aurum allows you to do more faster. No, Aurum is now letting players skip the isk requirements to replace losses. Logi Bro wrote:...Well, since you've spent so much time leveling your character (you said as much in your post) then you can use the level 5 proto suits, right? So it's not really pay to win if you can compete with them at their level.
When CCP releases tech-2 and makes it AUR only you can come back and say I told you so. you are also ignoring how this lets people play without isk. While I lose my level 5 dropsuits that took me so long to get for isk, I take huge loses. However 160AuR is stupidly cheap, it's not even in line with the rest of the items isk/Aur wise. You fail to see my point. You are saying these neo vk.1 suits are a benefit economically and allow you to forgo ISK, and I'm not arguing that. I am saying that the definition of P2W is paying to win, and not paying to not use in-game currency. You can get anything with ISK that you can get with AUR, so not P2W.
well that opens a whole new can of beans. If we put AUR version of a piece of gear, the AUR not sets the isk price. For instance, 300,000 isk for the Prototype Heavy BUT only 180 AUR for the same items that only needs level 3 instead of 5.
Well other items that cost 40 AUR only cost 4,000 isk. So now the whole AUR isk rate is balls crazzy, and the AUR version needs up on the market for less isk than the prototype, and the protoheavy is never used becuase the AUR version is cheaper on the market for isk. |
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