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Buster Friently Rosen Association 51	Posted - 2013.03.02 08:18:00 - [1] - Quote ImMortal SoLDieR X wrote: START TRANSMISSION........................... This skill says " 2% to handheld wepon damage per lvl ". Yet ther is no connection to the Base of the gun ! If use Assault Rifle i should be able to calculate what this does and the numbers. Some say its BROKEN, but NUMBERS dont LIE for ex 1 + 1 = 2. This is the only thing that is ABSOLUTE 1+1 will always and forever be 2. With this being said I would like clarity on how the damage should & or is Calulated. This in no way Disputes anyones RELIGION as Im searching for clarity. So please walk with me............... The lvl 1 STANDARD ASSAULT RILFE is the base for this particular weapon its dmg is 31.0 The only skill that that as far as i can see that adds dmg directly into this weapon is ASSAULT RIFLE OP PROFICIENCY this add 3% per lvl when skilled up to lvl 5 this adds a 15% increase to the Base of this weapon. EQUATION 1 ......... Base 31.0 x PROF .15 = 4.65 Base 31.0 + RESULT 4.65 = 35.65 / * NEW BASE FOR SKILLED WEAPON * I dont see any connection to weaponry so I will simply use the Multipler in my suit to continue with my caluculations. Before I place any dmg mods in my suit the number is 1.00. As I begin to ADD dmg MODS, I notice what happens: EQUATION 2......... DMG MOD 1 MULTIPLYER 1.10 x NEW BASE 35.65 = 39.2150 Dmg per unit DMG MOD 2 MULTIPLYER 1.21 x NEW BASE 35.65 = 43.1365 Dmg per unit DMG MOD 3 MULTIPLYER 1.33 x NEW BASE 35.65 = 47.4145 Dmg per unit Conclusion: The skill weaponry applies only to the active use of the modules Not the wepon BASE AT ALL, and the 10 % for completing this skill to lvl 5 is merely .01 which gets added correctly when using 3 COMPLEX DMG MODS. by the way it tyotals just under 1 hit point in calculations as .03 when converted to dmg is 0.93 ( 31.0 x .03 ). So this is truly what this skill itself adds were talking about almost 1 dmg more as a skill bonus that is received only when module is in place. Id like to know why the difference in numbers and why when the first one is placed it doesnt say 1.11. Shouldnt lvl 2 be 1.22, then lvl 3 would be 1.33 as stated. I can only think of stacking penalty but still doesnt quite fit. I know its a spreadsheet but, whats the EQUATION wher do these nubers come from and go? Help me out I need this explained, as I can only go by what I see. Whats the true way to do this and whats going on here? END TRANSMISSION......................... Why is it no one understands math anymore? The reason two complex mods is 1.21 is because 1.1x1.1=1.21. Three complex mods are the same: 1.1x1.1x1.1=1.331 This has nothing to do with any skills, it is simply how percentages work. The only thing wrong here is your conclusions and the fact that stacking penalties are not in the game yet.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 51	Posted - 2013.03.02 08:28:00 - [2] - Quote ImMortal SoLDieR X wrote: START TRANSMISSION..................... So where does the 2% per lvl go and travel ? END TRANSMISSION.......................... Well based on your first post, you just didn't multiply it in. What do you want me to say? You have no data from the game, you've just done the math wrong and then say "Where'd this number go?" You didn't include that number in your math, so it didn't go anywhere. This has no bearing on the fact that the extra percent or few that you are seeing in the damage multiplier on the fittings page considers the damage modifiers only. That number doesn't account for any skills.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 51	Posted - 2013.03.02 08:43:00 - [3] - Quote ImMortal SoLDieR X wrote: START TRANSMISSION....................... What is the 2% refering to. How and when is it applied? Dont just tell me.Show me how and why. We dont have to assume. Numbers write eqations than are provable or not. They are absolute I wanna know what it is and how it works. END TRANSMISSION.......................... 2% to damage, just like it says. Applied using math, when you shoot someone. I can't show you though, because we don't have a combat log, so there is no where in the game that currently shows your points of a hit. If you'd like to test this to collect the necessary data, you need to have a friend on the other team shoot you in a controlled fashion so you can record the delta in your shields/armor from hits and check vs their skill levels.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 51	Posted - 2013.03.02 08:47:00 - [4] - Quote Spec Ops Cipher wrote: ImMortal SoLDieR X wrote: START TRANSMISSION........................... This skill says " 2% to handheld wepon damage per lvl ". Yet ther is no connection to the Base of the gun ! If use Assault Rifle i should be able to calculate what this does and the numbers. Some say its BROKEN, but NUMBERS dont LIE for ex 1 + 1 = 2. This is the only thing that is ABSOLUTE 1+1 will always and forever be 2. ... END TRANSMISSION......................... 1+1 = 1 in a certain branch of mathematics. +1 to the first to name it :P I'm gonna toss out Euclidian Geometry, unless you're talking about different bases. More obscurely, you might be referring to certain gauge theories. I dunno though, I could be way off.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 51	Posted - 2013.03.02 08:48:00 - [5] - Quote ImMortal SoLDieR X wrote: START TRANSMISSION....................... What is the 2% refering to. How and when is it applied? Dont just tell me.Show me how and why. We dont have to assume. Numbers write eqations than are provable or not. They are absolute I wanna know what it is and how it works and where to apply the 2% as this weaponry skill states. As I have posted here because of lack of clarity. Other skills Calculate just fine. This one doesnt seem too. END TRANSMISSION.......................... Show me an example of other skills calculating just fine, and this one not calculating fine? I think I don't understand your question properly.

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