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Bruce3 Wayne3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:05:00 -
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biggest problem people hav is they use wrong weaponry against tanks, AV nades and swarmers kill a spec'd Madruger in a few seconds easy whereas against shield tanks they dont do much however Flux nades and Forge gun kill them very fast.
if people want to bring HAVs into game the only thing that should stop them is the enemy and not AR assaults who complain about everything, even exploits they're using (stacking damage mods).
if you want ambush without HAVs then kill all opposing HAVs.
oh and if its fair to ban tanks from ambush isnt it also fair to ban all custom drop suits and aquired skills? afterall thats what your trying to do to tankers. |
Bruce3 Wayne3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:15:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:I kill tanks in ambush without SP, your post is invalid. sure you do, militia maybe, two upper tier tanks or proto's without organized squad with sp'd av fits, highly unlikely.
team work + militia swarmers can kill spec'd HAV especially armour HAV, but alone they not so good. |
Bruce3 Wayne3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:50:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote:biggest problem people hav is they use wrong weaponry against tanks, AV nades and swarmers kill a spec'd Madruger in a few seconds easy whereas against shield tanks they dont do much however Flux nades and Forge gun kill them very fast.
if people want to bring HAVs into game the only thing that should stop them is the enemy and not AR assaults who complain about everything, even exploits they're using (stacking damage mods).
if you want ambush without HAVs then kill all opposing HAVs.
oh and if its fair to ban tanks from ambush isnt it also fair to ban all custom drop suits and aquired skills? afterall thats what your trying to do to tankers. No, I'm trying to make a new ambush mode. Where tanks are not allowed. They can still play ambush. Totally read my OP wrong.
no...i red it correct then thought about it... ALL INFANTRY would play this as its easier for them as it suits their specialisations leaving only tankers and AV specs on ambush.
AV specs will kill tanks causing them to quit (afterall AV kills HAV easily so 16 AVs will insta kill ANY tank)
so ambush will b obsolete therefore leaving only ambush without tanks... i just skipped ahead a week and this thought process in other posts. |
Bruce3 Wayne3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:41:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:Thurak Mirunas wrote:This isn't call of duty, learn to play, HTFU, if you dont like vehicles skill into AV, if you dont want to skill into AV, keep away from vehicles, or get in a squad with someone who can AV, this is a team game so as long as a few of the people you are with can AV you should be fine, but we shouldn't be removing tanks from any games Last time, I'm not suggesting we remove tanks. L2READ Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote:biggest problem people hav is they use wrong weaponry against tanks, AV nades and swarmers kill a spec'd Madruger in a few seconds easy whereas against shield tanks they dont do much however Flux nades and Forge gun kill them very fast.
if people want to bring HAVs into game the only thing that should stop them is the enemy and not AR assaults who complain about everything, even exploits they're using (stacking damage mods).
if you want ambush without HAVs then kill all opposing HAVs.
oh and if its fair to ban tanks from ambush isnt it also fair to ban all custom drop suits and aquired skills? afterall thats what your trying to do to tankers. No, I'm trying to make a new ambush mode. Where tanks are not allowed. They can still play ambush. Totally read my OP wrong. no...i red it correct then thought about it... ALL INFANTRY would play this as its easier for them as it suits their specialisations leaving only tankers and AV specs on ambush. AV specs will kill tanks causing them to quit (afterall AV kills HAV easily so 16 AVs will insta kill ANY tank) so ambush will b obsolete therefore leaving only ambush without tanks... i just skipped ahead a week and this thought process in other posts. So letting players play without tanks in the match is unfair to tankers?  That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. You'd have people who can handle playing AV in matches with other AV players, and you'd have people who are anti AV and vehicle drivers playing together. It would be perfect training for protecting/attacking vehicles in corp battles.
no it wouldn't as its seperation of specialisation... it would create more problems then it solves... their should be no seperation afterall this is just how everything starts to go wrong for the seperated.
if you or any1 else has problems with tanks than nut up or shut up (well shut up about segregation)
INFANTRY>AV>HAV>INFANTRY just because you cant do everything as a AR assault doesnt mean what you cant kill is OP. |
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:38:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:[quote=Thurak Mirunas]This isn't call of duty, learn to play, HTFU, if you dont like vehicles skill into AV, if you dont want to skill into AV, keep away from vehicles, or get in a squad with someone who can AV, this is a team game so as long as a few of the people you are with can AV you should be fine, but we shouldn't be removing tanks from any games Last time, I'm not suggesting we remove tanks. L2READ [quote=Bruce3 Wayne3] no it wouldn't as its seperation of specialisation... it would create more problems then it solves... their should be no seperation afterall this is just how everything starts to go wrong for the seperated. if you or any1 else has problems with tanks than nut up or shut up (well shut up about segregation) INFANTRY>AV>HAV>INFANTRY just because you cant do everything as a AR assault doesnt mean what you cant kill is OP. A) I'm not an AR assault, I merely use it as an example in most cases since most people can relate to it. B) AV=HAV. HAV can kill AV far easier than AV can kill HAV. Equal skilled AV player will keep an equal skilled HAV on the run. Unless that HAV has skilled gunners on it's small turrets, then the HAV has 2 potentially very powerful turrets able to keep an eye on 360 degrees around the tank with an additional set of eyes to the front. With the right skills, a small turret can be more powerful than any AR since the turret skills of everyone in the vehicle stack together. It's all circumstantial, but 1 equal skilled AV=1 equal skilled HAV. 2 ok AV=1 good HAV. 3 ok AV=1 GREAT HAV. But when you have a team of 5 ok AV and 3 good HAV's, there's nothing to do but leave the match or take a beating, which is not fair to the non-AV players. C) There seems to be some misconception here. I have no real issue with tanks, I almost NEVER have no means of getting clear of them. However I can clearly see how people are having issue with them being able to call in so many in random spawning CQC matches. It's going end up in either tanks getting nerfed, tank limits in matches being reduced, or an alternate mode put in if things keep up the way they have been. I'm pointing to the method I think would be best for the community considering the issue, though honestly tankers themselves could keep anything from happening if they could just control themselves and not grief people by driving tank trains through that tiny Manus Peak ambush map. D) Separation of specialization to an extent. Tank drivers can still run tankless matches, they just can't run their tanks. Just like OMS has off map support, this ambush wouldn't have RDV support. This would also be a good place for those QQers who whine about getting run over by LAV's.
AV has longer range than HAV AV > HAV
small turres are useless vs AV unless its operator jumps out of HAV and kills them.
5 ok AV scare gd drivers and kill bad 1s.
against 5 HAV 8 AV will always win (happened to me earlier, out of 5 simultaneous fielded tanks only 1 survived after 3 mins)
SEGREGATION doesnt help anything
out of curiosity what is your experience with HAV? |
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