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Beuford T Justice wrote:

Hagintora The OP makes a valid point. For the people crying "Nerf" for realism sake, read the OP again and realize why that's a bad idea. Reality is great jumping off point for games (well...the only jumping off point, really), but the balance of the game has to be consistant with the Lore and the "science" being utilized within the universe.

Ok, great post. That's half of what I'm saying. I think a lot of the confusion here is coming from the fact that I was OP about FPS and nerfers in general. I also said I would like to see a game that accuratley represented blah, blah. I should have elaborated more. I would like to see a game that stuck to its real life counterpart more and see how much hell everyone raised then.

In regards to dust I was saying cut out the nerf wars. I was using real life as a base line to say that. If it gets too real there's gonna be issues, if everything gets nerfed there's gonna be issues. I know it's the future but the weapons represented are based on reality too an extent. If we dumb it down too much are we really doing anyone any favors? Notice not once did I mention energy based weaponry. I didn't realize I was gonna have fanboy's of diffrent weapon systems blowing their O-rings all over the forums[:lol: wrote:

. I like dust over many FPS's as it is, including COD.

Bottom line quit crying nerf. Do research on what your raising hell about. Adapt and Overcome.


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Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.03.01 16:05:00 - [1] - Quote I think people get the wording confused when they talk about "realism", and things being "realistic" in games. As has been mentioned before, "realism" would make the game highly unbalanced, and ultimately, not very fun. It's supposed to be a game, not a simulator. That being said, I think what most people are actually concerned about is "plausability", and "consistancy". Are the weapons and equipment plausible enough that people can accept them at face value? Do the weapons/equipment operate consistantly within the universe? Do they stay consitant with the Errata/Lore that explains their use and function? Things like the Sniper Rifle, for instance. If you added in Travel Time, and Bullet Drop to the game, there would be little to no difference in what we see right now. At least for the Railguns anyway. If they add a Non Railgun/Energy standard projectile Sniper Rifle to the game, then they can start adding physics and such to the weapons. The OP makes a valid point. For the people crying "Nerf" for realism sake, read the OP again and realize why that's a bad idea. Reality is great jumping off point for games (well...the only jumping off point, really), but the balance of the game has to be consistant with the Lore and the "science" being utilized within the universe.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2013.03.01 17:58:00 - [2] - Quote Beuford T Justice wrote: Hagintora The OP makes a valid point. For the people crying "Nerf" for realism sake, read the OP again and realize why that's a bad idea. Reality is great jumping off point for games (well...the only jumping off point, really), but the balance of the game has to be consistant with the Lore and the "science" being utilized within the universe. Ok, great post. That's half of what I'm saying. I think a lot of the confusion here is coming from the fact that I was OP about FPS and nerfers in general. I also said I would like to see a game that accuratley represented blah, blah. I should have elaborated more. I would like to see a game that stuck to its real life counterpart more and see how much hell everyone raised then. In regards to dust I was saying cut out the nerf wars. I was using real life as a base line to say that. If it gets too real there's gonna be issues, if everything gets nerfed there's gonna be issues. I know it's the future but the weapons represented are based on reality too an extent. If we dumb it down too much are we really doing anyone any favors? Notice not once did I mention energy based weaponry. I didn't realize I was gonna have fanboy's of diffrent weapon systems blowing their O-rings all over the forums[:lol: wrote: . I like dust over many FPS's as it is, including COD. Bottom line quit crying nerf. Do research on what your raising hell about. Adapt and Overcome. As soon as anybody mentions "realism" in game, there's immediately going to be a whole bunch of people ready to jump up and explain to you all the different reasons why it isn't real. As a wanna be writer, I've tried to remove the words "realistic", and "realism" from my vocabulary when it comes to anything remotely story related. It's why I use "Plausible", and "Consistant" instead. Most of my post wasn't aimed at you, but I can see why you would think that it was. I actually agree with you on all of your points. Keep posting, and don't let the Beuford T. Justice Jr's get you down. (You've seen the movie, so you know what that means ).
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2013.03.01 18:26:00 - [3] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: Why does everyone want everything perfectly balanced. Balance is the opposite of chaos. And chaos is what New Eden was built on. I'd rather have crazy OP everything, where the battlefield is a chaotic mess than a perfectly balanced FPS. War isn't balanced. And this is a futuristic war game. Adapt and survive. Actually war is pretty balanced if you're talking about two standing armies facing off against each other. The chaos on the battlefield doesn't come from the weapons, it comes from how those weapons are used. It comes from the people, which is the only thing that a game can't balance out. Balance the weapons, give them to the players, and watch the chaos insue.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2013.03.01 19:01:00 - [4] - Quote Beuford T Justice wrote: Somebody shoulda told the Aztecs that when Cortez landed... I looked it up (see, research!). If it hadn't been for smallpox and famine, I don't think Cortez would've have made it out alive.