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Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:45:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ohh hoo hoo hoo This is how eve started: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/EVEHistory/2000.06_Orion.jpg2 Factions Caldari and Amarr 6 Ships 90 Star systems (btw legacy code from this era is still haunting eve today, they've called in ghost busters to clean up one piece safely at a time.) Again what does things 10 years ago has to do with now. I mean I still play Contra but it has no meaning or bearing on Eve/Dust. It comes down to 2 things;- Eve gameplay = Awesome Dust gameplay = Crappy Eve = CCP Dust = CCP Same Devs! Products that are eons apart.
*Sigh* Yet more people assuming they know everything there is to know about developing a genre-breaking FPS. |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:05:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Matobar wrote:
*Sigh* Yet more people assuming they know everything there is to know about developing a genre-breaking FPS.
Assumptions is the mother of all **** ups. Hence I dont assume if that post was directed towards me. Anyone who knows everything is a fool! And although I may not know "everything" about developing a genre-breaking FPS I know enough to get me job offers from EA Games and EA Sports out here. 
While I won't tell you that you know nothing about how to build a game like DUST, I will say that you probably don't know as much as the team CCP has assembled to do it.
Your assertion that CCP is using the same team for both EVE and DUST is wrong. They have different people working on EVE than they do on DUST.
Your assertion that because EVE is good, DUST should be just as good from the get-go is just as wrong. You cannot make a world-class bottle of wine, and then be expected to build your own high-performance sports car as well. DUST and EVE, as connected as they are, are both different products. CCP has had a long time to get things right with EVE, and even then they still make mistakes (see: Incarna). Expecting them to be able to transfer their skill with EVE to DUST is dumb. EVE is not an FPS. It is a sandbox space-ship MMO.
It is difficult to produce even a good FPS by itself. For every Battlefield or MW we have, there is a Homefront, Medal of Honor, or Black Ops: Declassified. Yes, you could say the FPS elements of DUST are currently lacking. But when you throw in the vehicles, OBs, the logistical/support roles, the market, fitting customization, and the social metagame of it all, you can see that, as things stand, DUST is already a unique MMO, even for one in early beta.
And then there's the connection with EVE. There's literally been no other game like what DUST 514. There's no one CCP can consult for "how to do things the right way," because they're blazing the trail here. Yes, CCP has/will make mistakes with DUST. I'd expect them to. No one has done this before. Accusing them of not having their act together on Day One is just stupid, because this game is as much a learning process for them as it is a business venture. |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:14:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Matobar wrote:You cannot make a world-class bottle of wine, and then be expected to build your own high-performance sports car as well. Lamborghini actually did it. Dont believe me! Check it out yourself! Kingfisher in India did something similar. But what do I know. 
And I'm sure they managed to do it perfectly the first time, because they were already so good at making cars. |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:26:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Matobar wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Matobar wrote:You cannot make a world-class bottle of wine, and then be expected to build your own high-performance sports car as well. Lamborghini actually did it. Dont believe me! Check it out yourself! Kingfisher in India did something similar. But what do I know. And I'm sure they managed to do it perfectly the first time, because they were already so good at making cars. Now you are just arguing for the sake of it instead of discussing it. Only idiots argue. Im done with you. Unless you have anything more meaningful than just being a CCP fanboy let me know and we can discuss this futher.
That's funny, because you're calling me an idiot, when you've just trolled around instead of actually responding to anything I've said. |
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