No

We already did try the free tanks. Nearly ruined the game.

Currently I don't mind the free LAVs as they are just too easy to kill. Even my militia swarm launcher can make mince meat out of them.

While I can understand what you're saying, at least with the free LAV its not as infuriating when somebody inevitably steals it and then crashes it or gets blown to bits 5 seconds later.

There isn't a free dropship or hav you because like it was already said those ruined the game.

No one is going to abandon a tank, everyone gets the hell out of an LAV the instant sh*t goes down. The two are hardly comparable. LAVs are disposable, tanks aren't.

You keep forgetting, when it was actually tested with all vehicles being free lavs weren't and still aren't game breaking

When was the last time you ditched a dropship or tank? When was the last time you didn't ditch a LAV? Who in there right mind would ever stay in one the entire match? The things are death traps.


Their only value is free kills for the other team.

Which is fodder for the weakest Av

LAVs are far to easily destroyed, regardless of how I fit it. It won't survive the match, that's guaranteed. Calling one in is just throwing away isk, I'm guessing that's the reason they're free.

Even upgraded they're easily destroyed because of the low pg/cpu not allowing buffer and repairing mods

Ugghhh... You're not getting me. Plain in simple: LAVS aren't worth any SP or ISK investment. The LAV is just momentary transportation and is meant to be easily disposable. Tanks and drop ships aren't.

My post was about the standard lav

Help it survive how exactly? Once someone wants it dead, then it's going down no "if"s "and"s or "but"s. Even if I could keep it alive all match, I still wouldn't want to stay in it all match; running people over isn't anywhere near as easy as busting out a tank.

Give pilots and drivers proper rewards, and then we can remove free LAVs.

You can barely take one wave of militia swarms in a standard lav(as in the one that requires sp

Putting LAV in enemy territory+ proximity mine=

A dropship pilot should get WP for flying, as it is they get squat, the same should apply to LAV drivers. Until using a vehicle actually has rewards, I see no reason to charge for them.

There should also be a way to lock vehicles so no one steal them.

Almost every dropship pilot would disagree.

Why? These are all reason why removing free LAVs is a bad idea.

1. Search it up. There's a couple of threads on the subject.

2. I'm not going top spend money if a random teamate is just going to steal it as soon as I get out for any reason.

It should extend to them too!

YES

You should have the option to lock your vehicle, but you run the risk of someone destroying/hacking it while you're gone.

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Tanks kill, what do Dropships and Lavs get?

A dedicated driver also wouldn't be using the free one in the first place

They blow up if left alone after a while, and according to Jax they should not be disposable.

They blow up if left alone after a while, and according to Jax they should not be disposable.

And not instantly going boom isn't enough of an incentive?

And not instantly going boom isn't enough of an incentive?

1. Yes it was a double negative

2. But double negatives are acceptable when they are needed to emphasize something

3. "And surviving isn't enough of an incentive?"

in this case surviving = not going boom

Tangents, man, tangents.

I could use starter fits... but how about BPOs instead? Not everything has to be lost.

I completely agree with the OP. Free LAVs swarming the map and loading up the RDV queue is obnoxious. I once waited 2 minutes on my pilot alt because of all the LAVs being spawned.

I suggest a somewhat simple fix that might have people screaming foul. Don't take the free LAV away. Make it slower and take away its weapon and add a third seat. Most people who argue to keep the LAV in this thread all seem to have one thing in common: they all use the free LAV as a personal transport. Since few people suggest that the Light ASSAULT Vehicle is good for much else (as in, you hardly do much assaulting in the thing just fly to location and ditch out upon arrival), make the starter LAV a simple quick transport vehicle.

The caveat is that you have to give starting drivers/pilots some incentive to ferry people using better militia or standard LAVs (which cost money...something we ALL FREAKING AGREE ON). There are probably 20 posts confirming that 1) non starter LAVs, tanks and drops cost money and 2) tanks and drops aren't "useless."

If a starting driver wants a gun on his vehicle for vehicle kill assist in addition to transport WP, he'll just have to buy a militia LAV. Risk...reward...