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Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:10:00 -
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Hey guys this isn't a "snipers are op and suck" post this is a simple post to make it even for those of us who play frontline classes.
Well I think that if we added a timer for people in the red zone friendly or foe should have a timer as soon as the drop out of the mcc only for friendlies to have a minute or two to get out instead of lining the red zone with snipers where we can't reach you.
Makes it more fair to us. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
179
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:13:00 -
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What happens when a team is redlined?
Killing off people in the red zone, or removing their WP from the red zone is easily exploitable.
I agree its annoying but I think the fall out from banning red line snipers would be worse than the actual sniping. |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
193
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:15:00 -
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Another idea might be to stop by a supply depot once in a while, fit the free sniper setup that everyone gets, and shoot back. 
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Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
22
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:15:00 -
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No, never all that would happen would be:
Player 5 Suicide
Player 2 Suicide
Teammate 5 Soma Player 10
Player 15 Suicide
Player 9 Suicide
Teammate 14 NT-511 Sniper Player 7
If you feel its fair to punish those trapped inside the redline maybe you should be put in the redline without a punsihment in the first place and maybe you'll see the problem in the first place
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Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:16:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:What happens when a team is redlined?
Killing off people in the red zone, or removing their WP from the red zone, is easily exploitable.
I agree its annoying but I think the fall out from banning red line snipers would be worse than the actual sniping.
I would have figured you pieced the rest of it together, but they die and respawn. problem solved I can't figure out how someone could exploit this.
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Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:18:00 -
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Galthur wrote:No, never all that would happen would be:
Player 5 Suicide
Player 2 Suicide
Teammate 5 Soma Player 10
Player 15 Suicide
Player 9 Suicide
Teammate 14 NT-511 Sniper Player 7
If you feel its fair to punish those trapped inside the redline maybe you should be put in the redline without a punsihment in the first place and maybe you'll see the problem in the first place
Your telling me people don't know how to move? Its quite easy to get out of the red zone. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
179
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:27:00 -
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Cosorvin wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:What happens when a team is redlined?
Killing off people in the red zone, or removing their WP from the red zone, is easily exploitable.
I agree its annoying but I think the fall out from banning red line snipers would be worse than the actual sniping. I would have figured you pieced the rest of it together, but they die and respawn. problem solved I can't figure out how someone could exploit this.
What makes you think I would let you out of your redline?
Redline games would be over in 2 minutes from the red lined team being automatically cloned.
This is a bad idea. Practice not get sniped. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:40:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Cosorvin wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:What happens when a team is redlined?
Killing off people in the red zone, or removing their WP from the red zone, is easily exploitable.
I agree its annoying but I think the fall out from banning red line snipers would be worse than the actual sniping. I would have figured you pieced the rest of it together, but they die and respawn. problem solved I can't figure out how someone could exploit this. What makes you think I would let you out of your redline? Redline games would be over in 2 minutes from the red lined team being automatically cloned. This is a bad idea. Practice not get sniped.
Out of all the games ive done not one team has gotten forced into their redzone. I think your just thinking up worst case scenarios so you can try discard this idea. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
181
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:52:00 -
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I've redlined and been redlined countless times.
It is a worse case scenario, but its one that happens enough to make your suggestion exploitable and ruin the experience for newer players, losing teams, etc.
Automatically suicide as a punishment for being bad, or playing against those much better than yourself is not a smart idea.
You're railroading this game small player base.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
414
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:52:00 -
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Cosorvin wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Cosorvin wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:What happens when a team is redlined?
Killing off people in the red zone, or removing their WP from the red zone, is easily exploitable.
I agree its annoying but I think the fall out from banning red line snipers would be worse than the actual sniping. I would have figured you pieced the rest of it together, but they die and respawn. problem solved I can't figure out how someone could exploit this. What makes you think I would let you out of your redline? Redline games would be over in 2 minutes from the red lined team being automatically cloned. This is a bad idea. Practice not get sniped. Out of all the games ive done not one team has gotten forced into their redzone. I think your just thinking up worst case scenarios so you can try discard this idea.
You clearly have never played with or against good corp squads, half the time when i'm running in a corp squad we end up redlining the enemy team, it's incredibly boring because the enemy has extremely limited options and it just turns into a campfest, you say it's a worst case scenario but it's surprisingly common if you run in a good squad. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1069
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Posted - 2013.02.27 23:07:00 -
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Let me show you something I know about redline sniping from when I used to snipe-
Safety is only the second main reason why people redline snipe. The main reason is because the redline usually has the best vantage points. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
216
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Posted - 2013.02.28 04:57:00 -
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there have been multiple good post on this subject with multiple good answers but people don't care they would rather cower in the red line or camp it then fix the ******* problem. this consequences for your actions thing is apparently too harsh so we have to allow these people to hide like chicken *****, allowing them to get paid when they aren't earning it. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
455
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Posted - 2013.02.28 04:59:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:What happens when a team is redlined?
Killing off people in the red zone, or removing their WP from the red zone, is easily exploitable.
I agree its annoying but I think the fall out from banning red line snipers would be worse than the actual sniping.
If your redlined for the 2 minutes, the game should end as your team forfeited the match. |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
196
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Posted - 2013.02.28 06:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Let me show you something I know about redline sniping from when I used to snipe-
Safety is only the second main reason why people redline snipe. The main reason is because the redline usually has the best vantage points.
Tough to argue this. Good vantage, little time to be in place.
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