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Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:47:00 -
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So you were getting steamrolled by a group of ORGANIZED INFANTRY and you decided to drop FOUR TANKS as a counter.
And you conclude by saying that everyone will get a tank.
For a First Person SHOOTER?
World of TANKS?
Umm no if thats the way this game is going then theres the leave battle options and the second option of playing Fallout: Boston, Destiny, The Last of Us, etc. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:56:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:So you were getting steamrolled by a group of ORGANIZED INFANTRY and you decided to drop FOUR TANKS as a counter. And you conclude by saying that everyone will get a tank. For a First Person SHOOTER? World of TANKS? Umm no if thats the way this game is going then theres the leave battle options and the second option of playing Fallout: Boston, Destiny, The Last of Us, etc. Hm i find that rich considering ive seen Lotis drop a few tanks
Well if you have video of FOUR tanks dropped by me then please share.?? |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:08:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:^Dude what? They had their tanks from the beginning of the match. The reason they won is because the other team started focusing on the tanks too much and failed to take them down in time.... then being red lined halfway into the match.
lol OP probably just ushered in either a Tank change, or alterations to AV. This will be interesting to see in the future.
Most likely limit how many tanks can be fielded.... but this could cause arguments/QQ threads about not being able to call their tanks in. XD
We shall see.
Dude! defend tanks much??
From the video commentary " the enemy is no general rabble of riff raf, this is actually a group of the TOP RANKED CORP IN THE GAME"
The shooter is now WORLD OF TANKS....LOL!! |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:34:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:So you were getting steamrolled by a group of ORGANIZED INFANTRY and you decided to drop FOUR TANKS as a counter. And you conclude by saying that everyone will get a tank. For a First Person SHOOTER? World of TANKS? Umm no if thats the way this game is going then theres the leave battle options and the second option of playing Fallout: Boston, Destiny, The Last of Us, etc. Hm i find that rich considering ive seen Lotis drop a few tanks Well if you have video of FOUR tanks dropped by me then please share.?? And also please show where I posted that everyone is going to have to use tanks to show good gungame? Otherwise shut up. Good day. Boredom detected
Fixed.
And I was here since April/May builds when swarms were broken then we got the E3 build better known as Tankers Paradise.
Tanks???
Been there done that.......yawn.
Game needs fixing.
Good day.
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Posted - 2013.02.27 15:21:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
Fixed.
And I was here since April/May builds when swarms were broken then we got the E3 build better known as Tankers Paradise.
Tanks???
Been there done that.......yawn.
Game needs fixing.
Good day.
Game needs fixing he says Complains when OP drops 4 tanks to counter enemy If enemy dont go AV to get rid of tanks then tough **** He wants to be able to kill a tank with a milita AR because game is classed as first person shooter thus AR should pwn all lol
Yes, yes since it takes four AV infantry with unlimited ammo to kill a Sagaris/Surya with unlimited ammo and it takes four infantry to drive a Sagaris/Surya.
Once those tanks are on the field then infantry AV is useless versus four good tanks.
Trying to call in tanks as a counter to four deployed tanks is useless as the RDVs will just be shot down.
Its World of Tanks.
You have four tanks and 12 AR assaults killing 16 AV infantry with no AR assaults.
Tanks win.
Build after build. |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 15:59:00 -
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Volgair wrote:Fantastic commentary, but i don't fully agree with every thing you've said... Actually that's only partially true, at one point or another i have said all the same things myself but in a different context.
Here is what i will say to amplify the presented information:
- HAV are to weak to advance a point with competent dedicated AV, Dedicated AV is weaker to the advance of ground units. Use well fit HAV as a force multiplier for ground units.
- Next I am firmly of the opinion that against a good team you cannot use a HAV the way it was used in the video. Case in point sitting and camping. Against good AV and enemy HAV's, a blaster tank not in near constant motion is effectively expensive fodder. Rail tanks can get away with it because of the range advantage. (On the subject of rail tanks, If there were no red line and we had bigger maps it would be possible to flank a rail tank granting them a much softer advantage. I am patently waiting for that day to come.)
My issues with the Video:
- I'll start with my greatest grievance with the video. Its a pub stomp. Never use a pub stomp to prove a point. You cannot complain about blueberries being simple minded on one thread, then pat yourself on the back for redlining them using the HAV equivalent of proto gear in the next. Honestly to prove anything you need to give example of two teams of the same level relative skill. The two militia tanks for example did not last long even when accompanied by your two corp mates Segaris.
- Not every member of large well known corps will be good players. (This is probably even more true in DUST then it is in EVE.)
- Lastly, while it is true that the HAV's power is impressive against limp-wristed disorganized teams, its a little weak when used in corp matches. This video is showcasing a well fit vehicle being used against unprepared foe's. CCP may well continue their war path of heavy handed nerfs making HAV's useless in the high end (just like the Drop Ship) if people use this video and videos like it as leverage to prove an exacerbated point.
When dropships were going 100 and 0.
The problem is the player counts are too small and the maps too limited.
What we need are tank buffs!! and larger player counts and maps to counter them.
With larger maps we can bring in four counter tanks far, far away from the enemy tanks and then proceed to do a strategic battle.
But if we had 128 versus 128 player counts on maps twenty times larger then yes buff the tanks health and speed and let it be ten tanks per side. |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:19:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
Well if you have video of FOUR tanks dropped by me then please share.??
And also please show where I posted that everyone is going to have to use tanks to show good gungame?
Otherwise shut up.
Good day.
I smell tears. Delicious, delicious tears... And i don't care about your gungame. I care about winning game. If I win the game because you aren't prepared for a swarm of tanks then it's awesome. If I win the game because you can't adapt to an HMG heavy backed by a logi... I still win. Gungame doesn't matter. What matters is how you best contribute to your team's victory.
Please.
Its boreing, BOREING playing around with vehicle fits.....yawn.
And spending SP on AV forces you to play the game being forced on a certain path.
Logi and HMG??
I run solo just for kicks since I am waiting for six clone squads but anywho......
Option one is just kill both with a basic suit and basic HMG.
Option two is four complex sidearm damage mods plus dual Calas MK-33.
The sad part is even a basic SMG and dual damage mods versus a heavy HMG and the SMG wins due to headshot bonus.
1X sidearm skills versus 3X heavy skills thats kind of sad but once folks level up the heavies are screwed.
Or my dual scambler pistol fit called:
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