DUST Search - GET OUT OF MILTIA GEAR, YOU CANT WIN!!

Gunner Nightingale wrote:

No seriously this isnt a QQ, im not even getting a challenge from Miltia gear, against my ADV suit let alone my proto suit. And no im not mad cause i died to a miltia suit (because it hasnt happened, even if i did it was because i messed up)

If you are going to spend AUR anywhere in this game is should be the STD BPO, this gives you so much better a chance at putting up a fight as well as cutting the isk cost of your fit and generate profit.

If spending AUR is something your dead set against then use miltia to build a nest egg of 10-20ish M ISK and then start rocking STD gear regularly with miltia mods if you have but get better suits. You will have better success and die less, dying less means more profit.

Also you know the best way to profit

1. Dont Die

2. Run in squads and make sure 2 people have injectors and have the discipline to get revved, a revved suit is a kept suit.

Look i want players to have fun and be successful in this game and frankly you staying in militia gear thinking all the ISK you are earining will be worth it in the end simply dont get that your income is a pittance compared to the eventual FW and EVE ISK money to be gained.

Moreover the better your performance in match and the better quality of gear you destroy increases the profits for everyone including yourself.

Really if you have been playing this game for more than 1 week you should be playing with STD by now, 2 weeks at the most. By a month in you should be able to sustain ADV suits and make relatively good profit if you create too lavish a fitting as your primary fit.

Anyway good luck out there and do consider this because frankly if you are using miltia gear still dont QQ about anything in this game being OP and more importantly you are setting yourself up for failure.

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Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 234	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:24:00 - [1] - Quote No seriously this isnt a QQ, im not even getting a challenge from Miltia gear, against my ADV suit let alone my proto suit. And no im not mad cause i died to a miltia suit (because it hasnt happened, even if i did it was because i messed up) If you are going to spend AUR anywhere in this game is should be the STD BPO, this gives you so much better a chance at putting up a fight as well as cutting the isk cost of your fit and generate profit. If spending AUR is something your dead set against then use miltia to build a nest egg of 10-20ish M ISK and then start rocking STD gear regularly with miltia mods if you have but get better suits. You will have better success and die less, dying less means more profit. Also you know the best way to profit 1. Dont Die 2. Run in squads and make sure 2 people have injectors and have the discipline to get revved, a revved suit is a kept suit. Look i want players to have fun and be successful in this game and frankly you staying in militia gear thinking all the ISK you are earining will be worth it in the end simply dont get that your income is a pittance compared to the eventual FW and EVE ISK money to be gained. Moreover the better your performance in match and the better quality of gear you destroy increases the profits for everyone including yourself. Really if you have been playing this game for more than 1 week you should be playing with STD by now, 2 weeks at the most. By a month in you should be able to sustain ADV suits and make relatively good profit if you create too lavish a fitting as your primary fit. Anyway good luck out there and do consider this because frankly if you are using miltia gear still dont QQ about anything in this game being OP and more importantly you are setting yourself up for failure.
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. 103	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:30:00 - [2] - Quote To quote a wise man from another game . "Your money aint worth a thing if you dont spend it !"
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 151	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:31:00 - [3] - Quote Completely untrue For Corp battles or playing against pros maybe but other wise I ain't spending a dime to pwn a few noobs And I still finish ontop
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 234	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:34:00 - [4] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Completely untrue For Corp battles or playing against pros maybe but other wise I ain't spending a dime to pwn a few noobs And I still finish ontop Bring miltia against me then tell me thats true. Not being cocky, but like you said playing against pros But seriously if you are doing well in miltia against noobs then it stand to reason you will do better in better gear and therefore your profit margin shouldnt be affected, moreover it forces you to play smarter if a loss of suit actually means more to you. Lastly you should be playing in your best gear because it tests the limits of your fitting and it gives you a sense of its ability and its limits which in turn gives you insight in how to tweak as well as give insight into what's really "OP" or "UP' or just what works and what doesnt which makes you smarter in the game and therefore more capable of giving better feedback to the devs. You can only extrapolate so much, part of it comes down to experience and first hand knowledge of gear. Im just saying dont just play the game, "TEST IT".
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2868	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:41:00 - [5] - Quote As a former militia locked lone wolf player who used to kill prototype level equipment rather often. Challenge accepted!
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 258	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:41:00 - [6] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Completely untrue For Corp battles or playing against pros maybe but other wise I ain't spending a dime to pwn a few noobs And I still finish ontop I somewhat agree, randoms aren't worth it, and most of the big name corp guys completely outgun me regardless, so using anything other than militia would just be a loss. That's not even even counting all dudes who like to bring out 2-3 tanks. With my current 50k suit, I can afford to die 3 times and still make a profit if my team looses. Against the big names I usually die about 6 times, yeah, I'm constantly broke I do use the suits, but it usually requires 2-3 more random matches using just starter fits to restock the suits I lose.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 151	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:42:00 - [7] - Quote Gunner Nightingale wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Completely untrue For Corp battles or playing against pros maybe but other wise I ain't spending a dime to pwn a few noobs And I still finish ontop Bring miltia against me then tell me thats true. Not being cocky, but like you said playing against pros But seriously if you are doing well in miltia against noobs then it stand to reason you will do better in better gear and therefore your profit margin shouldnt be affected, moreover it forces you to play smarter if a loss of suit actually means more to you. Lastly you should be playing in your best gear because it tests the limits of your fitting and it gives you a sense of its ability and its limits which in turn gives you insight in how to tweak as well as give insight into what's really "OP" or "UP' or just what works and what doesnt which makes you smarter in the game and therefore more capable of giving better feedback to the devs. You can only extrapolate so much, part of it comes down to experience and first hand knowledge of gear. Im just saying dont just play the game, "TEST IT". I do have good gear and run it if I see anyone worth note on the other team or when playing with my friends so I can assist them with good gear But like I said if they are just randoms I am not goin to spend money no point To much risk to little reward If I die 5 times I wont break even Usually dint but it could happen
Drake435 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 5	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:45:00 - [8] - Quote Gunner Nightingale wrote: No seriously this isnt a QQ, im not even getting a challenge from Miltia gear, against my ADV suit let alone my proto suit. And no im not mad cause i died to a miltia suit (because it hasnt happened, even if i did it was because i messed up) If you are going to spend AUR anywhere in this game is should be the STD BPO, this gives you so much better a chance at putting up a fight as well as cutting the isk cost of your fit and generate profit. If spending AUR is something your dead set against then use miltia to build a nest egg of 10-20ish M ISK and then start rocking STD gear regularly with miltia mods if you have but get better suits. You will have better success and die less, dying less means more profit. Also you know the best way to profit 1. Dont Die 2. Run in squads and make sure 2 people have injectors and have the discipline to get revved, a revved suit is a kept suit. Look i want players to have fun and be successful in this game and frankly you staying in militia gear thinking all the ISK you are earining will be worth it in the end simply dont get that your income is a pittance compared to the eventual FW and EVE ISK money to be gained. Moreover the better your performance in match and the better quality of gear you destroy increases the profits for everyone including yourself. Really if you have been playing this game for more than 1 week you should be playing with STD by now, 2 weeks at the most. By a month in you should be able to sustain ADV suits and make relatively good profit if you create too lavish a fitting as your primary fit. Anyway good luck out there and do consider this because frankly if you are using miltia gear still dont QQ about anything in this game being OP and more importantly you are setting yourself up for failure. Hmm....your statement of ADV suits don't apply to me. I instead used those same SP to invest in more damage and upgrades for my gun. Well, saving up that much SP is going to take me a very long time....so long in fact, I'm not sure if I'll ever get there. Sure I use boosters but still. I have most of my weapon-related stuff maxed out while my assault dropsuit level is only 1. Then again Raven BPO has been saving me tons of ISK so no complaints.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 932	Posted - 2013.02.27 05:52:00 - [9] - Quote Running anything higher then Militia, or standard gear makes the game too easy. When I was still playing, I almost always ran a raven suit in 98% of the matches I played. Not to mention, I was soloing the whole time. Squad pub stomping with avd/ proto gear just makes things far too easy. It got old fast.
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2013.02.27 06:03:00 - [10] - Quote Everyone has their own playstyle. I'm sure they already know the militia stuff sucks, however, in a pub match nothing actually matters. So they can float with their militia stuff while learning, or save up for the next time they can use better gear, or keep a large amount of isk in the bank for their corp matches. What ever floats their fancy. Personally, I run nothing but nearly free fits until I see a tank or ds to blow up. All of my isk goes into those fits, so I don't care if I die alot while throwing clone after clone at it because I have a rather large stock of them.

itsBad Furry Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.27 06:04:00 - [11] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: To quote a wise man from another game . "Your money aint worth a thing if you dont spend it !" unless you use tanks
itsBad Furry Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.27 06:11:00 - [12] - Quote 2nd that why run it anyways ??? i mean i fined it takes more SKILL to kill with sub line drop suits and guns then your AVD or pro? hay im not going to say who should do what but i like the cheap stuff becus unlike you guys with pro and AVD and STD if i get hit i die faster so the game is for me not to get hit and get hit less and with weaker guns it takes more skill to kill then say runing aruond with a pro AR or SMG if you dont like it o well why you crying you should be killing lots of players if pro and AVD stuff is so better....and Ez !
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 290	Posted - 2013.02.27 06:13:00 - [13] - Quote Even rocking a Type-b with 423 shields, I still somehow manage to get insta-killed by militia/Exile AR's every now and then
Boomer Dues Mortis D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2013.02.27 06:21:00 - [14] - Quote I seem to do fine with my 36k heavy suit fit. I see no need to run anything better unless it is a corp battle.
Lavirac JR DUST University Ivy League 130	Posted - 2013.02.27 06:30:00 - [15] - Quote There is no real value to winning yet though to be honest. All right now we are doing is grinding SP until the real purpose of the game is added. All people will buy advanced/proto stuff when the purpose to the game is added as it does help a ton. Right now there is not much purpose to fighting except learning and skill grinding and you can do that in militia gear.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 236	Posted - 2013.02.27 06:55:00 - [16] - Quote Look you can run whatever you want, but at the same time dont go asking for nerfs or buffs if you're only experience against something is in militia gear. As for making the game more challenging yea i can appreciate that, I run my STD BPO suit and think of it like the gravity chamber and weight belts in dragon ball Z. Train at a tougher level than what you normally face and when you take the restraints off the game becomes that much easier. But you also devolve and are less able to push the limits of your fits fi you dont know what those limits are. To each is own but at the same time you really cant say something is unbalanced if you dont know how it works against the equivalent equipment. As it is I can 1-2 shot almost everything, but thats because i have few if any adv or proto players to test against, Thats a powerful MD. Granted its only 2 com dmg mods and 4 is overkill but how can i accurately asses the validity of my claim that MDs are fine in their current form if everything i touch turns to jelly in an instant? But thats my main point, is its our job to test and not just horde stuff, we do a diservice to the game if we arent testing all our equipment and finding the imbalances in the game at the highest gear ans Skill point levels. Thats really what im getting at. Also better gear has an immediate psychological impact on your play to be cautious and patient with regards to playing in a squad and getting revived. Moreover get out of the mentality of death=loss of suit,, respawning=loss of suit. Lastly playing with better gear increases the payout incredibly for everyone. How many of the closed tester here remember the 1M ISK payouts? just saying it isnt as a big an isk sink as people think. Also a 50K suit if lost 4 times should net you 100K profit you place 3-4th or above. So if players are regularly near the top as they say then it isnt a problem. And you will have better result and generally gain more SP as a result. It pretty much a win-win-win situation. But hey what do i know, i had 50M ISK and now i have 20M ISK and that 30M was completely spent in Scrims and CB not Pubs.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 214	Posted - 2013.02.27 11:34:00 - [17] - Quote you can run a free(as in isk) fit with a STD suit and gun, you should do this.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 103	Posted - 2013.02.27 12:34:00 - [18] - Quote lol OP uses MD 360 nade spamming 24/7 easy mode
General John Ripper Killshot Corp 37	Posted - 2013.02.27 13:29:00 - [19] - Quote Its worth it to buy gear. my load outs are between 50k -60k and i still manage to make a pretty good profit. I am still looking for more upgrades.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Legacy Rising 122	Posted - 2013.02.27 14:09:00 - [20] - Quote LOL i use kits worth 3k. and do damn well with em. you're just salty that when the game ends you spent 60k or more and your profit margin prolly is garbage. i dump in 3k and pull down 250k to 270. that's in profit. but you go ahead and keep using that expensive stuff. Peace B

Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2013.02.27 15:18:00 - [21] - Quote For assault, a Type I BPO with militia/basic modules is a moneymaker. If peeps don't have the BPO and don't wanna buy it, once you get your core skills up Type II + basic mods should still be a moneymaker and give you a bit more flexibility. That suit's got long legs on it and once you're utilizing it to full effectiveness you're ready for Type 'B' and Proto.
Fornacis Fairchild Kat 5 Kaos 26	Posted - 2013.02.27 15:46:00 - [22] - Quote Ah...each and to his own on this one. My usual Ambush kit is Raven suit, Militia mods and a GEK. Used to use the Militia AR for the longest but finally got a few skills to support the GEK. I do well, and saving money for the big stuff. However my new suit is a LogiBro with expensive mods.....having fun with this one and its costing me. heh
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 33	Posted - 2013.02.27 15:47:00 - [23] - Quote No. You get out of your ADV
Zaitsev Savior PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 2	Posted - 2013.02.27 17:21:00 - [24] - Quote People should start using more expensive stuff so that we all get a bigger payout. I love using my A-scout suit with lvl 3 shotgun and nova knives plus some mods, its expensive but i end up making up some profit since i'm usually in the top 5. i mean whats the point of having money if your not gonna use it. Also, we should be able to get discounts if we buy items in bulk. Buy 30 load outs get 5% off the total or something.
Seed Dren L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 10	Posted - 2013.02.27 17:26:00 - [25] - Quote Zaitsev Savior wrote: People should start using more expensive stuff so that we all get a bigger payout. I love using my A-scout suit with lvl 3 shotgun and nova knives plus some mods, its expensive but i end up making up some profit since i'm usually in the top 5. i mean whats the point of having money if your not gonna use it. Also, we should be able to get discounts if we buy items in bulk. Buy 30 load outs get 5% off the total or something. Thats a cool idea but does not fall into eve market. When trading and selling comes thats where you'll either find deals or pay an arm and/or leg for it.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 244	Posted - 2013.02.28 00:09:00 - [26] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lol OP uses MD 360 nade spamming 24/7 easy mode Run it 24/7 ill still destroy you chump. Your ARs easier FYI.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 36	Posted - 2013.02.28 00:11:00 - [27] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lol OP uses MD 360 nade spamming 24/7 easy mode You really must of made this guy QQ.
Roebe 1475 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 13	Posted - 2013.02.28 00:14:00 - [28] - Quote Whatever I rock the starter fits LIKE A BOSS!
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 36	Posted - 2013.02.28 00:16:00 - [29] - Quote Anyone who I see use Starter fits and still goes positive against skilled opponents is a boss in my book.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 244	Posted - 2013.02.28 00:18:00 - [30] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lol OP uses MD 360 nade spamming 24/7 easy mode You really must of made this guy QQ. I don't know i guess, im trying to recall if i even mention that i use MD, cause if he remembers me from in-game awesome! I think me and the rest of the Neg-Feedback massholes are on a mission to force players out of militia gear. Its OHK kill and more effective than a shotgun. Put on an solid STD suit more likely ADV suit and we go back to being more of a support weapon than primary slayer. That btw is the major point of this whole thread. players who complain about nerf this buff that need to STFU unless they are using good gear because balance cannot and should not be made around the worst fitting options and the lowest common denominator. Anyway heres to me and my fellow MD's making "masshole" a common dust term 1 butthurt kitten at a time



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