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Kazio De Vihura
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:15:00 -
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It's official this game is pay to win not pay to do things faster and no i don't talking about heavy proto, I talking about complex damage modules there is not isk equivalent you have to pay to get them and CPU cost difference is  huge. I really disappointed. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
32
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:16:00 -
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What? |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:17:00 -
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Kazio De Vihura wrote:It's official this game is pay to win not pay to do things faster and no i don't talking about heavy proto, I talking about complex damage modules there is not isk equivalent you have to pay to get them and CPU cost difference is huge. I really disappointed.
What?
You can get complex dmg mods with isk. |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:19:00 -
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"Seismic" Heavy Damage Mod is an example of what he's talking about, where the CPU and PG requirements are significantly less than the isk available only Complex.
It's something like 68 CPU and 9 PG on the Complex, while it's more like 45 and 5 (or 6) on the Seismic.
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:21:00 -
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I never even knew there was an AUR variant.
If so then that definately needs fixing. They need ISK variants of these AUR items. |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
152
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:21:00 -
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Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:"Seismic" Heavy Damage Mod is an example of what he's talking about, where the CPU and PG requirements are significantly less than the isk available only Complex.
It's something like 68 CPU and 9 PG on the Complex, while it's more like 45 and 5 (or 6) on the Seismic.
Ohh, yeah... that isn't right, that is pay to get an advantage, aka, pay to win. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
227
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:22:00 -
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Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:"Seismic" Heavy Damage Mod is an example of what he's talking about, where the CPU and PG requirements are significantly less than the isk available only Complex.
It's something like 68 CPU and 9 PG on the Complex, while it's more like 45 and 5 (or 6) on the Seismic.
Yeah CCP effed up all those PG/CPU lower variants, They have said as much so it will get fixed eventually i hope. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
667
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:24:00 -
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But you can still fit all the Complex ISK varient damage mods you want without using AUR. It just takes longer, requires maybe a better drop suit, more training into support skills but in the end, after a few months, it all evens out.
It isn't really fair, necessarily, but in the end you aren't paying for anything you can't get with ISK. |
Utsuru Kaiju
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
8
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:33:00 -
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Whenever they finally add a stacking penalty to damage mods using them will be much less appealing. Although, if people want to spend money for an edge, let them. Buying in-game items with real money is how this game will continue to be developed, remember that. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:37:00 -
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Aighun wrote:But you can still fit all the Complex ISK varient damage mods you want without using AUR. It just takes longer, requires maybe a better drop suit, more training into support skills but in the end, after a few months, it all evens out.
It isn't really fair, necessarily, but in the end you aren't paying for anything you can't get with ISK.
^ This.
Thank you for saving me the trouble. |
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Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:38:00 -
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Btw there are 2 Aur style complex that have lower cpu/pg heavy and sidearm there is no light version |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1912
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:39:00 -
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Yea, these have been around for a while now. I as a fanboy would love to say it's P4A, and while it still technically is, people can get some pretty big advantages.
If two people are of even skill, one player who is given a 10% advantage will be in a dominating position if he is intelligent about his use of that advantage. The greater the advantage, the harder the climb for his opponent. It's a slippery slope, that's for sure... |
Kazio De Vihura
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:45:00 -
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Aighun wrote:But you can still fit all the Complex ISK varient damage mods you want without using AUR. It just takes longer, requires maybe a better drop suit, more training into support skills but in the end, after a few months, it all evens out.
It isn't really fair, necessarily, but in the end you aren't paying for anything you can't get with ISK.
No if 2 person have exactly the same skills one will be able fit one module more for example shield extender and having 66 hp more, now imagine all modules will have arum variand with 30% less fiting requirements no way person who is not paing real cash will be able compete, and i dont think so it mistake price for this module is 40 aur and there is no light variant of one otherwise player would notice very fast assume game is play to win and dont play it.. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
253
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:49:00 -
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There will be ISK variants to everything eventually. There's also the "tether" complex shield regulator and I'm sure many more. |
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