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Posted - 2013.02.27 00:44:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:It strikes me as odd that as an AV infantry I have no incentive to aim at a tank, but every reason to shoot down a dropship.
For one, tanks have how much HP? Its impossible for one person to take down a tank and even with an entire team trying it might still live. I could spend the entire match trying to down a tank, and get zero credit.
However if I see a dropship I can blast it to a burning crash in about 1-3 shots depending on the weapon. Solo.
I'll get anywhere from 1-7 kills kills plus vehicle destruction. I'll have cost the pilot upwards of 500k ISK and all it took was a free suit or militia gear.
Lets say I manage to kill a tank with tons of people helping and a bad driver who can't duck behind cover often enough. It cost the driver hundreds of thousands less ISK, I'll get a few less kills or maybe no credit at all for my entire match of contribution, if I happen to be ripped to shreds by its gun right before it blows up.
I guess I Don't understand why tanks are so relatively cheap, match winningly useful, and difficult to kill, while lacking much motivation for teams to kill it. Compared to a dropship which is expensive, near useless, gets no credit in matches, is exceptionally easy to kill, in some cases being 1hit KO'd. It comes with a big red target of easy points, a boat load of player kill points the sweet tears of pilot's crying wallets and can be taken down on a solo whim of "hey I'll just swap to free Swarm launcher".
Seems to me that AV is balanced to keep tanks in line either doing a sufficient or poor job at that, while simultaneously making flying a joke.
Soloing a tank is easy, nice troll.
If you can't, your doing it wrong ESPECIALLY for someone skilled into AV |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 01:03:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:It strikes me as odd that as an AV infantry I have no incentive to aim at a tank, but every reason to shoot down a dropship.
For one, tanks have how much HP? Its impossible for one person to take down a tank and even with an entire team trying it might still live. I could spend the entire match trying to down a tank, and get zero credit.
However if I see a dropship I can blast it to a burning crash in about 1-3 shots depending on the weapon. Solo.
I'll get anywhere from 1-7 kills kills plus vehicle destruction. I'll have cost the pilot upwards of 500k ISK and all it took was a free suit or militia gear.
Lets say I manage to kill a tank with tons of people helping and a bad driver who can't duck behind cover often enough. It cost the driver hundreds of thousands less ISK, I'll get a few less kills or maybe no credit at all for my entire match of contribution, if I happen to be ripped to shreds by its gun right before it blows up.
I guess I Don't understand why tanks are so relatively cheap, match winningly useful, and difficult to kill, while lacking much motivation for teams to kill it. Compared to a dropship which is expensive, near useless, gets no credit in matches, is exceptionally easy to kill, in some cases being 1hit KO'd. It comes with a big red target of easy points, a boat load of player kill points the sweet tears of pilot's crying wallets and can be taken down on a solo whim of "hey I'll just swap to free Swarm launcher".
Seems to me that AV is balanced to keep tanks in line either doing a sufficient or poor job at that, while simultaneously making flying a joke. Soloing a tank is easy, nice troll. If you can't, your doing it wrong ESPECIALLY for someone skilled into AV missing point of the thread. I can solo drop ships on an account without a single point spent in AV.
Mhm, DS's can fit up to 5-6k hp.
Same as tank.
My alts Myron fits 5k shield. Same as gunnlogi.
Where's the difference?
Its to much all the way around for AV.
DS or tank, skilled AV will **** it, militia can kill both. |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 01:08:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:so what your saying is a 2 million + 10k shield sagaris with a proto scattered blaster is cheap....you have no idea what your talking about do you?
Tell me how you would fit that?
If you say all buffer with a baby rep and power expanders in the low.....
My god, skilled into tanks?
You see a tank over 7000 hp, they're sacrificing slots and reps for buffer, buffer means nothing. |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 01:09:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:so what your saying is a 2 million + 10k shield sagaris with a proto scattered blaster is cheap....you have no idea what your talking about do you?
Also no difference between gunnlogi and sagaris but more dps. Why they're not used much |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 01:51:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:It strikes me as odd that as an AV infantry I have no incentive to aim at a tank, but every reason to shoot down a dropship.
For one, tanks have how much HP? Its impossible for one person to take down a tank and even with an entire team trying it might still live. I could spend the entire match trying to down a tank, and get zero credit.
However if I see a dropship I can blast it to a burning crash in about 1-3 shots depending on the weapon. Solo.
I'll get anywhere from 1-7 kills kills plus vehicle destruction. I'll have cost the pilot upwards of 500k ISK and all it took was a free suit or militia gear.
Lets say I manage to kill a tank with tons of people helping and a bad driver who can't duck behind cover often enough. It cost the driver hundreds of thousands less ISK, I'll get a few less kills or maybe no credit at all for my entire match of contribution, if I happen to be ripped to shreds by its gun right before it blows up.
I guess I Don't understand why tanks are so relatively cheap, match winningly useful, and difficult to kill, while lacking much motivation for teams to kill it. Compared to a dropship which is expensive, near useless, gets no credit in matches, is exceptionally easy to kill, in some cases being 1hit KO'd. It comes with a big red target of easy points, a boat load of player kill points the sweet tears of pilot's crying wallets and can be taken down on a solo whim of "hey I'll just swap to free Swarm launcher".
Seems to me that AV is balanced to keep tanks in line either doing a sufficient or poor job at that, while simultaneously making flying a joke. Soloing a tank is easy, nice troll. If you can't, your doing it wrong ESPECIALLY for someone skilled into AV missing point of the thread. I can solo drop ships on an account without a single point spent in AV. Mhm, DS's can fit up to 5-6k hp. Same as tank. My alts Myron fits 5k shield. Same as gunnlogi. Where's the difference? Its to much all the way around for AV. DS or tank, skilled AV will **** it, militia can kill both. tanks fit like 4x the HP as a max DS
lol, again your doing something wrong.
It might be possible to fit more hp on a tank but again, your losing rep power meaning you will die. |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 01:54:00 -
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Also tanks should cost minimum 600k minimum. |
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:02:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:
"lol, again your doing something wrong."
It might be possible to fit more hp on a tank but again, your losing rep power meaning you will die.
How am I doing anything wrong? I don't deploy tanks.
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Then don't compare them with a DS if you don't understand their fits,
They don't magically get HP or are super cheap.
I do agree DS need a buff.
But tanks are not in a better boat, your making it look like we are.
My 6600 armor dual rep 50% hardner tank just got 3 shotted by cbr7 swarms. With all mods on.
Missiles took turns around the corners after me, all from their spawn.
Please we're both underpowered.
1 man solo'd 4 mill sp and great fit. With advanced swarms.
Say DS needs a buff, don't compare the two. |
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