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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:48:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:You said discussion, I'm discussing :-)
I don't see any armour tanks if I'm honest. But don't see how swarms that do 1800 dmg can take out 7k armour at 50% res in 2 shots. If they do, then your right, it needs to change. Not because its OP, because its buggy. It mathematically makes 0 sense
No offense dude but I disagree without spelling out why you disagree is not a discussion. Look at nummies post vs your post. The op has taken some pain to think about it and type it out. The least you can do it atleast specify why you disagree.
From my side no comment;- for one I am really buzzed after 3 drinks and 2;- I dunno what 2 is. Anyways im outta here. Peace brah! |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:16:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:
They risk a lot more than the tanks that snipe from the tips of hills and slink round the corner soon as they see the swarms coming. The av units can't hide from the infantry quite as easilly
LOL. Blown up enough tanks solo to tell you what you are saying applies to only rail tanks. A full squad of 2-3 scouts running packed AV nades can just run up behind any tank within the red lines or outside the red lines and blow it up. Its way to easy blowing up tanks. LMFAO.
Edit: Scout suit with packed AV nades = 4000 ISK. x3 = 12000 ISK.
A minimum good fit tank = 1000000 ISK.
Do the math!
Edit 2: A soma goes down to 2-3 packed AV nades. Thats 4000 ISK to a 200000 ISK fiting. Absolute BS. |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:25:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
+1,
You know what i like about this thread.
Between the spec'd AV and HAV guys, no one can counter argue with us on topics.
Both sides will shoot then down.
Again reinforcing Why AV vs Vehicle balancing should be between the spec'd and not the rest.
Had a 5 mil corp match last night. The enemy got 2 tanks on the field. It didnt even cross their red line. BS!
Either tanks are weak or packed AV nades are strong.
PS: Waiting for the CCP overnerf SoonGäó! |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:36:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
For the sp isk and roles, tanks a terrible atm.
Yet people think we should run around the map and hide like LAV's lol
Im not a car.
Here is the low down;-
Packed AV nades;- 100000 SP
Minimum tank requirements (L1);- 450000 SP
Its easier to make a tank go boom than build it up. I see a major descrapancy here. |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:48:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: no experience with armor tank vs swarms.
Swarms/AV nades/MDs do 30% additional damage on armor. And yes! I have taken out tanks with my MD  |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:07:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:That's Why I want responses from skilled AV players and skilled HAV players.
Best of luck with that! All you are gonna get is "Boo hoo hoo! that big bad Soma with 600 shield and 2000 armor kept killing me in my Enforcer suit. I fired at him and but didnt do a thing. I went 0-17 and he went 52 -1! Nerf that tank!"  |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:15:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
lololol this has been the problem for ever now.
People need to skill things and learn before speaking.
I love how several spec'd AV and tank dudes have taken the time to respond to this thread and all have great input.
Then others with no skills come in and spout random stuff out
Now hopefully CCP can spend some time and scrim through all these nice posts out here and put a balance in place.
But betcha $20.00 the overnerf hammer is coming  |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:33:00 -
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YourDeadAgain76 wrote:
LOL We will kill any tank....."Archon" will make sure of it. ....
Members in Red Star are fined 100000 ISK for every death against tanks and they get yelled at by me.
Some exclusions apply though for the good tankers out there. |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:51:00 -
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YourDeadAgain76 wrote:
So your saying i dont have to pay for those death's i got to Movadjo's tanks then right. Cause i dealt the final blow and all. ;0....
Sorry! As per Dusters Blog SyN is not even ranked or decent. Cough up the ISK before I fire you |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:53:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Morathi III wrote:Tank are fine, blaster a bit op but generally fine So where is your points to support your comment? or did you just feel like stopping by and saying hello? Some corp member have tank i play with them like gunner, i play a lot against, tank get there power from is other squad member, like infantry, they cost a lot of isk but like us our corp give isk for tank player AV are fine, forge also perhaps the swarm proto a little bit op
Please be nice to Morathi III. I actually like the dude. He has a lot of good ideas juts has some hiccups with the presentation. |
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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:56:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:
Define 'skilled AV' please, because I don't think it has been yet. Is this someone who dedicates all of their SP to walking around and killing vehicles, because that sounds like a miserable dedication. If anything 1/3 of SP in AV seems a little more reasonable. And as such I would consider myself that.
A skilled AV user is a player that can grief or destroy tanks solo. It is a function of skill set and tactics. When it comes to skilled AV users higher speed/surviveability is as important as the level of your AV game. Also knowing the environment and map awareness is important which includes knowing where the enemy infantry is, where the enmy snipers are, where the enemy tank is and what possible routes can the tank take. |
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