Define 'skilled AV' please, because I don't think it has been yet. Is this someone who dedicates all of their SP to walking around and killing vehicles, because that sounds like a miserable dedication. If anything 1/3 of SP in AV seems a little more reasonable. And as such I would consider myself that.

1) I'm at demolitions V, grenadier 3, Assault Launcher Operation II, and weaponry V, and I'm a logibro. This means I have a lot that I can carry around when I want to nail a HAV, but I'm also annoyingly slow, and if infantry jump me I am super vulnerable. I also have significant dampening and detection skills letting me be pretty stealthy as I get into a good position. I have a few options for taking out HAVs, and it is much more doable in skirmish matches rather than ambush. I typically cannot grenade spam the good drivers and finish them off, especially if they have turret gunners. I find my most successful times are when I lead in with AV grenades and then use the SL. Starting with the SL gives away my position too soon normally. And even then, the lock time of a lot of the SLs means that if I'm in blaster range I will not survive more than 1 hit from out of cover.

2) The other aspect that you guys aren't really discussing either is the damage that is done before the AV even makes it to the HAV. Assuming that the HAV gets into its ideal scenarios, and its camping a CRU or objective, that is one location that the AV cannot spawn. This means that it must spawn (often when redlined) in a location that will put it nearly maximum distance from the HAV. The whole time the AVs team is then losing time/HP/clones due to the tank's superiority.

3) Why didn't you flipping address my initial point about damage done from either class? You know that tanks do 10x more damage in isk than they suffer over the long term.

4) Not to mention that their victories on the battlefield are strategic as well. They can hold down multiple points making every objective that they control for a minute give the rest of the team that much more freedom to roam. FYI in order to be victorious you need to kill 2 clones per minute for every minute that the enemy has an objective. If a tank holds down a CRU and objective for 3-4 minutes, and gets 15-20 kills, that's as good as getting +12 more kills due to the advantage. An AV player does not have that ability.

Assuming the average suit in a decent match is 20k isk. 20 kills is 400k isk, plus the advantage of holding down those objectives can be another 200,000+.

5) Additionally, it is the tank drivers who want to be the most aggressive that I find are the easiest ones to kill with my AV. If you want 30-40 kills you are putting yourself in at least 30-40 scenarios where you are in danger. I trapped a madruger in the mountain the other day between two stacks of proximity mines that he couldn't see or aim at with his turret. Then I proceeded to nail him with SL and AV grenades. He was helpless. It was his stupidity that lead him up the mountain all by himself, and my earned skill that let me win the battle in my favor. If you believe that you deserve to park where there are 4-5 red dots all around you all the time, think again.

You guys are involved in this rediculous Metagame already, knowing that when the purse strings open and Eve corps flood your big corps' wallets you will just buy your games with the HAVs that pwn. Guerrilla AV tactics will be the bread and butter to counter your guys' strategy and you are afraid that you won't be able to just buy your profit. Props to the propoganda that has already started, but it should be exposed for what it is.

Also: before people take a look at this thread and surmise that "the Community is up in arms about tank/AV balance..." 52 of the 130 posts at this point are from YOUR NAME HERE, and about another 50-60 are from just 2 or 3 others.