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Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 22:31:00 -
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The breach and the tac have been nerfed too much, blah blah blah.
I used to hate the breach because it was so awful but I used it today and it was fun, but it does not match up to the standard AR.
Things I see that are wrong with it:
- Range. Awful range even with lvl4 sharpshooter. Definitely needs a buff there.
- Damage. It sounds insane but for the RoF the damage isn't enough. Facing a standard AR is hell.
- Mag size. Smaller problem but could use a bit more rounds. 48 maybe?
Any other ideas? |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 23:32:00 -
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No one? Lol |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.24 23:59:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:No one? Lol
I agree but no one likes my input soo..I say icrease clip size and either dmg or rof not much but make it worth it..77k for a creo when a militia ar is better... |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.25 07:46:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Kiiran-B wrote:No one? Lol I agree but no one likes my input soo..I say icrease clip size and either dmg or rof not much but make it worth it..77k for a creo when a militia ar is better...
It seems no one likes mine either :p. thanks for your reply. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.25 07:50:00 -
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Compared to the basic AR variant, breach is both more expensive (both ISK and SP) and inferior. Less dps, less damage contained per magazine, less range. There is no reason to use this gun.
Devs should just remove it completely. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.25 07:57:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Compared to the basic AR variant, breach is both more expensive (both ISK and SP) and inferior. Less dps, less damage contained per magazine, less range. There is no reason to use this gun.
Devs should just remove it completely.
Exactly my point kage. I want them to make it viable as a weapon. I think it has potential, maybe I'm wrong. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2013.02.25 09:50:00 -
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Breach is different end of AR.
Now is little underpowered, but this is price for HUGE dmg and panic like breach do few build ago. Breach AR was monster, after range nerf, still is, but useles for med-to-long fights.
Why you complain?
This weapon now, still requied good aiming. And this is for close-to med fights.
If you want that fight (like playing style for HMG/heavy) it is good option. Just jump out from corner .. pumb pumb .. done.
And remeber that you use less ammo. This is weapon for lone wolfs ;)
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Thrillhouse Van Houten
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.25 10:06:00 -
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The breach isn't useless when you're standing 4m from your opponent. It needs a RoF increase but just slightly.I guess a slight range increase wouldn't be completely out of line BUT the whole damn point of the thing is that it is meant as a close range assault weapon. You could make an argument that it is far less damaging than a shotgun at close range and doesn't have much of a range advantage on a shotgun and that would be true, but you could argue that many weapons supersede or obsolete many other weapons on a situational basis.
Basically, tweak it by adding fractions more range and RoF...don't slap the number around. |
ZiwZih
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.25 13:17:00 -
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Support! Both Breach and Tactical have ended as collateral of needed AR fix; now is time to fine tune them. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.25 14:59:00 -
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Buff or remove them. |
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Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:12:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Breach is different end of AR.
Now is little underpowered, but this is price for HUGE dmg and panic like breach do few build ago. Breach AR was monster, after range nerf, still is, but useles for med-to-long fights.
Why you complain?
This weapon now, still requied good aiming. And this is for close-to med fights.
If you want that fight (like playing style for HMG/heavy) it is good option. Just jump out from corner .. pumb pumb .. done.
And remeber that you use less ammo. This is weapon for lone wolfs ;)
My complaint is that it doesn't have a place. The damage potential should be higher than the standard AR but it's not. Standard AR trumps it in every way. Plus it doesn't warrant the price.
Using less ammo isn't that important when you aren't as competitive as other weapons. I agree that it's good against heavies. |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:19:00 -
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i've been saying it needs a buff since august. It's been pointed out to CCP time after time again. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:22:00 -
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Thrillhouse Van Houten wrote:The breach isn't useless when you're standing 4m from your opponent. It needs a RoF increase but just slightly.I guess a slight range increase wouldn't be completely out of line BUT the whole damn point of the thing is that it is meant as a close range assault weapon. You could make an argument that it is far less damaging than a shotgun at close range and doesn't have much of a range advantage on a shotgun and that would be true, but you could argue that many weapons supersede or obsolete many other weapons on a situational basis.
Basically, tweak it by adding fractions more range and RoF...don't slap the number around.
The standard AR beats it most of the time. I would say more damage instead of RoF and a SLIGHTLY bigger clip size. Don't get me wrong I don't want this gun to be buffed into the greatest gun ever made just given the ability to be competitive. |
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