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Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:05:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Minimum total kills could address this, honestly tho the KDR leaderboards have a more fundamental problem. They increase the distortion caused by focus on KDR.
Now if they were War Points per Death or ISK efficiency ratio (i.e. value of assets destroyed vs value of assets lost) then those would provide something meaningful with the context of the game but KDR alone is essentially just an (easily manipulated) e-peen stat, not an actual representation of something relevant.
Continuing to have boards listing KDR in such a prominent way is a disservice to the player base, particularly those new players who are coming from other fps games as it provides a misleading sense of importance to the stat.
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My personal opinion on Leaderboards is this:
1) If you get points for doing something, then I should get points for stopping you.
2) Anything that gives a character points, should have a Leaderboard associated with it.
KDR has it's place, and it needs to be put in its place in this game. W/L is more important that KDR, but not nearly as important as how well you work with your team. Points earned from Teamwork should always take more precident than anything else. |
Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:17:00 -
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Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote:Well team work points are complex after all all points are technically for helping the team (yes killing people helps the team as much as reviving the team)
But their should be some implementation of a logibro hall of fame, after all a good logi is a rare sight that some people don't believe exists, therefore everything should be done to highlight these wonderous creatures.
Agreed, but I was referring to points earned from things like resupplying your team mates with a nanohive, spawning team mates with a Drop Uplink/Dropship, repping team mates, etc. Basically, more stats for more things. Almost everything an idividual does can help the team over all, but these things are usually from players who've gone out of their way to do just that. |
Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:43:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:Not quite sure how to implement extra teamwork pts but an interesting idea, personally i play as a sniper always have so for the most part I don't really get much in the way of pts for capturing stuff and don't really work directly w a squad per se.
I do end up playing a far more defensive role than people seem to think though. I can't even count the ammt of times I've tagged someone before they could capture a point when none of our guys were around. All of which is part of teamwork just not sure how any of it would work into the equation.
I also usually play as a sniper, so let me give you some examples based on that. Some of these have been mentioned in other threads.
1) Spot Bonus: You "Tag" an enemy player and if your team kils him, you get 5 points. 10 if it was your own squad that took him him down.
2) Defenisve Kill Bonus (can't think of a better name): If you take out an enemy within a certain radius of an objective, you get 10 points, 15 points if they are currently trying to hack the objective, with the 10 additional points if your squad leader has also issued the Defend order. 5 points if they are currently hacking a friendly controlled installation.
3) Team Mate Saved Bonus: If a friendly has been reduced to 25% armor, or less, and you kill the red dot shooting at him: 5 Points. 10 points if the friendly was also a squad mate.
These three examples (Spot Bonus, Defensive Kill Bonus, and Team Mate Saved Bonus), would have leaderboards associated with them. Allowing people to check to see whether or not you're doing your job as a sniper, other than just killing people for KDR. They would show that you do indeed defend objectives/installations from falling into enemy hands, that you call out (over chat, using the "tag" function, or both) enemy positions for you team mates, and that you watch your teams back when they are in danger.
This is what I mean what I mean by "points earned by teamwork". Not that there should be a single Leaderboard entry titled TEAMWORK, but that there should be more entries on the Leaderboards that are earned by working as a team. |
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