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C Saunders Serenity Prime Kraken. 158	Posted - 2013.02.23 08:48:00 - [1] - Quote Destiny sounds like it's basically Dust 514 but better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKZ3VKsQt9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOUi4JDC4o CCP you better start getting somewhere or else you'll have some serious competition.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 154	Posted - 2013.02.23 08:50:00 - [2] - Quote DUST looked good in official videos too.
C Saunders Serenity Prime Kraken. 158	Posted - 2013.02.23 08:57:00 - [3] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: DUST looked good in official videos too. This is the company that made Halo though. So I doubt what they show will be a lie.
Kay High ZionTCD Legacy Rising 86	Posted - 2013.02.23 09:11:00 - [4] - Quote and DUST has people that worked on battlefield on it. whats your point? There are dozens of threads like this on the forums now from people like you who have played for how long? A week less? This game has made incredible strides in the last year and will continue to do so. Now some would say those strides are meaningless but I have faith in CCP and I could care less about some other game that might release in a few months. EVE started out as not the best game out there and now it's known as one of the most challenging and entertaining games on the market.
Zlocha Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.23 09:18:00 - [5] - Quote Destiny wont be even close to an MMO that DUST will be. Meaning, consequences, choices u wont encounter another game that emphasize those words like they are emphasized in New Eden.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2013.02.23 09:25:00 - [6] - Quote Zlocha wrote: Destiny wont be even close to an MMO that DUST will be. Meaning, consequences, choices u wont encounter another game that emphasize those words like they are emphasized in New Eden. Probably get out of beta first though. ;)
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 45	Posted - 2013.02.23 09:42:00 - [7] - Quote Why is it that people are constantly comparing Dust to other games that have release videos? The fact of the matter is that were are testing a Beta. The devs are testing core game play aspects as well as some things that they are integrating into both dust and eve. These are not the release graphics. There will be a graphics update coming, but for now we have to deal with this unpolished version of the game. Just as Eve received a makeover with its trinity expansion (Dec 07) we will probably receive a graphics update upon full release of the game, or maybe sooner so the devs can test the servers or what not... Be patient, and baring that, have fun playing whatever other game you want.....
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.02.23 09:45:00 - [8] - Quote Very different game. Its more PVE focused, closer to Borderlands meets Guild Wars 2. There is pvp, but I'm not expecting anything similar to Dust in this regard seeing as its more about story-driven social PVE experience.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 580	Posted - 2013.02.23 09:50:00 - [9] - Quote Microsoft got all butthurt when CCP call them on their bluff and made Dust a PS3 exclusive. So now Microsoft is scrambling to come out with a competitor.
La Fortune Terranauts 36	Posted - 2013.02.23 10:03:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Microsoft got all butthurt when CCP call them on their bluff and made Dust a PS3 exclusive. So now Microsoft is scrambling to come out with a competitor. Except that it was announced at the PS4 unveil that Destiny was coming out on the PS4 with PS4 exclusive features. Besides Destiny is a completely different game to DUST, Destiny is about story driven, multiplayer PVE experiences with RPG elements and DUST is set in an existing sandbox world which is focused on player interactions and PVP battlefield conquest. It's like comparing Battlefield to Halo.

Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2013.02.23 10:07:00 - [11] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Microsoft got all butthurt when CCP call them on their bluff and made Dust a PS3 exclusive. So now Microsoft is scrambling to come out with a competitor. Maybe they are, but I think we are talking about Destiny and Sony here. What are you talking about?
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:08:00 - [12] - Quote I'm thinking Destiny on PS4 will blow serious chunks, especially with the PS3 version. Bungie seemed ashamed to be on stage representing Sony, and I have little doubt that this multi-platform game will be favored on the box 720 first and foremost. And I bet it will be the PS4's first garbage 720 port (any long-time PS3 owners know about the absolutely horrid 360 multi-platform ports from 06, 07 and 08 ...) Granted It's a FPS game developed by Bungie and I will definitely keep my eye on it. But unless PS4 is the absolute dominant system, we will just get sloppy seconds as usual and it will be a garbage afterthought PS4/3 port that the cleaning staff for Bungie will work on during weekends.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:18:00 - [13] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Very different game. Its more PVE focused, closer to Borderlands meets Guild Wars 2. There is pvp, but I'm not expecting anything similar to Dust in this regard seeing as its more about story-driven social PVE experience. Ok, this has been bugging me for a while... what the heck does PVE and PVP stand for? Best I came up with is Player vs Everyone, and Player vs Player. But that makes little sense a lot of the time. Damn EVE lingo! Wish this forum had filters that made specific words highlight in which you can hover the mouse over and it explains what the term means (love forums that do this!).
Rei Shepard Spectre II 72	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:19:00 - [14] - Quote I am an UO, EQ player foremost but, Its been since Ultima Online, EQ & Wow that there has been a worthy MMO title to play longer then a month... The only Sci-Fi game that is still standing from that era is EVE, Bioware failed with Swtor, NCsoft failed Hard with Tabula Rasa, Planet Side 2 is merging servers already (that was fast) and guildwars 2 is a failure, not to mention Rift is dead, Tera failed and i could go on. So, in the last decade there has been NO good mmo that could retain enough people to fill up a few 2000 people limit servers, so for me personally until i see Everquest Next the only company that has had any luck with keeping people playing is ccp and sadly Wow (the game that destroyed the MMO market) but nows its Kung FU panda online.... So why is Destiny gonna beat the **** out of its competition again? Because it looks nice on paper ? because they got this cool demo ? -> Aliens: Colonial Marines had cool stuff too worked on it for 6 years but its utter garbage now. Ill believe it when i see it. (release) and when it can floet for 3 months without crashing down.
Coyskurk 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:19:00 - [15] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Very different game. Its more PVE focused, closer to Borderlands meets Guild Wars 2. There is pvp, but I'm not expecting anything similar to Dust in this regard seeing as its more about story-driven social PVE experience. Ok, this has been bugging me for a while... what the heck does PVE and PVP stand for? Best I came up with is Player vs Everyone, and Player vs Player. But that makes little sense a lot of the time. Damn EVE lingo! Wish this forum had filters that made specific words highlight in which you can hover the mouse over and it explains what the term means (love forums that do this!). PvE: Player vs Entity (Sometimes environment) and you got PvP right
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:53:00 - [16] - Quote Coyskurk wrote: PvE: Player vs Entity (Sometimes environment) and you got PvP right Thanks. But what the heck does player vs entity have to do with Dust gameplay? Based on the definition... perhaps this is a solo reference? Dust is 99% PVP, it's not like we can go out and farm inanimate objects for SP/ISK with zero risk (unless of course this is referring to noobs who have little chance of fighting back against experienced players, therefore they are perceived as inanimate objects?) Even then, unless PVE refers to destroying empty turrets or hacking things to get SP/ISK, Dust has relatively no PVE elements at all. Yet some of the 'elite' players use this term all the time to try and demean other corps/players.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 134	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:55:00 - [17] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Coyskurk wrote: PvE: Player vs Entity (Sometimes environment) and you got PvP right Thanks. But what the heck does player vs entity have to do with Dust gameplay? Based on the definition... perhaps this is a solo reference? Dust is 99% PVP, it's not like we can go out and farm inanimate objects for SP/ISK with zero risk (unless of course this is referring to noobs who have little chance of fighting back against experienced players, therefore they are perceived as inanimate objects?) Even then, unless PVE refers to destroying empty turrets or hacking things to get SP/ISK, Dust has relatively no PVE elements at all. Yet some of the 'elite' players use this term all the time to try and demean other corps/players. Dust has no PvE yet, once that drone horde mode thing is added, that'll be PvE (possibly PvP as well).
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2281	Posted - 2013.02.23 13:15:00 - [18] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Very different game. Its more PVE focused, closer to Borderlands meets Guild Wars 2. There is pvp, but I'm not expecting anything similar to Dust in this regard seeing as its more about story-driven social PVE experience. this.
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2013.02.23 13:23:00 - [19] - Quote Truth of the matter is no one knows really anything about destiny, especially some of the people in this thread. Fact is that it is coming out soon and CCP hasnt shown anything that will grab their potential playerbase. It was ok for CCP to talk a big game about things to come, but that was when we thought other games of this magnitude were 2-3 years off. Obviously CCP has staying power but if you think Bungie/Destiny doesnt also have a "10 year plan" you are foolish.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2281	Posted - 2013.02.23 13:35:00 - [20] - Quote KryptixX wrote: Truth of the matter is no one knows really anything about destiny, especially some of the people in this thread. Fact is that it is coming out soon and CCP hasnt shown anything that will grab their potential playerbase. It was ok for CCP to talk a big game about things to come, but that was when we thought other games of this magnitude were 2-3 years off. Obviously CCP has staying power but if you think Bungie/Destiny doesnt also have a "10 year plan" you are foolish. tbh depends on what kind of game destiny is the videos shown didnt show off anything competitive wise, all the hints dropped have been about social coop play Ppl throw out the word "persistent" alot as well MAG was apparently "persistent" but unless there is some actual meaning to the persistence and not just some bs for story driven play then meh Destiny does look good tho and im keepin an eye on it whether its coop mainly or not. Defiance is also persistent but again another persistent game with no real meaning. Whats the point of shooting ppl if ur not owning anything? just log on shoot some folks, do some missions rinse and repeat? that gets boring over time and if Destiny follows that route it will get boring over time

IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 325	Posted - 2013.02.23 14:02:00 - [21] - Quote La Fortune wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Microsoft got all butthurt when CCP call them on their bluff and made Dust a PS3 exclusive. So now Microsoft is scrambling to come out with a competitor. Except that it was announced at the PS4 unveil that Destiny was coming out on the PS4 with PS4 exclusive features. Besides Destiny is a completely different game to DUST, Destiny is about story driven, multiplayer PVE experiences with RPG elements and DUST is set in an existing sandbox world which is focused on player interactions and PVP battlefield conquest. It's like comparing Battlefield to Halo. Regardless of how you try to differ them, they are both in the same genre ~MMO's. And regardless of how differennt they are, there will be competition. To think otherwise is being ignorant. Both games will be on the PS4 and both games will attract players from the same audience pool. To say that because CCP has a couple of battlefield employees working with them is vastly different and miniscule compared to the Entire Bungie team who brought us Halo and the multiple titles following it working on Destiny. they are very well known for their excellent work in bringing us a polished package of graphics, sound, story and gameplay. I hope CCP takes full advantage of this headstart they have over Bungie because currently the anticipation of Destiny is already spreading like wildfire. There's a reason there's so many threads on the subject. Why would anyone trash the Op for speculation? Isn't that what we've always done?
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.02.23 14:03:00 - [22] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Very different game. Its more PVE focused, closer to Borderlands meets Guild Wars 2. There is pvp, but I'm not expecting anything similar to Dust in this regard seeing as its more about story-driven social PVE experience. i just almost puked
Washlee UnReaL. 131	Posted - 2013.02.23 14:29:00 - [23] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Destiny sounds like it's basically Dust 514 but better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKZ3VKsQt9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOUi4JDC4o CCP you better start getting somewhere or else you'll have some serious competition. prime difference Dust is free - Destiny isn't Dust will be ported to PS4 and still be free Destiny isn"t going to be free PS4 is going to be very expensive
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 171	Posted - 2013.02.23 14:59:00 - [24] - Quote When Destiny have a dense economy, something Dust doesn't even have right now, and groups that act like corporations I'll see a good reason to say Destiny is better because it can be compared.
SIeepy Zan Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.02.23 19:36:00 - [25] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: DUST looked good in official videos too. This is the company that made Halo though. So I doubt what they show will be a lie. Cuz Bungie never released a disappointment
Coyskurk 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.02.23 23:00:00 - [26] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Coyskurk wrote: PvE: Player vs Entity (Sometimes environment) and you got PvP right Thanks. But what the heck does player vs entity have to do with Dust gameplay? Based on the definition... perhaps this is a solo reference? Dust is 99% PVP, it's not like we can go out and farm inanimate objects for SP/ISK with zero risk (unless of course this is referring to noobs who have little chance of fighting back against experienced players, therefore they are perceived as inanimate objects?) Even then, unless PVE refers to destroying empty turrets or hacking things to get SP/ISK, Dust has relatively no PVE elements at all. Yet some of the 'elite' players use this term all the time to try and demean other corps/players. Entity in this case would be AI. Drone infestations will be the primary source for PvE
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 94	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:55:00 - [27] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Destiny sounds like it's basically Dust 514 but better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKZ3VKsQt9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOUi4JDC4o CCP you better start getting somewhere or else you'll have some serious competition. both are awesome.
Buzzin Fr0g KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 86	Posted - 2013.02.28 09:27:00 - [28] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Destiny sounds like it's basically Dust 514 but better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKZ3VKsQt9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOUi4JDC4o CCP you better start getting somewhere or else you'll have some serious competition. Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I'm going to go ahead and say from what's available DUST is infinitely deeper both in lore and RPG mechanics. Probably a larger universe as well. CCP has got what should be an insurmountable head start.


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