The map sizes really aggravate the problem, as once one side has tanks on the field their opponents will almost never be able to call in one of their own without themselves or the RDV getting taken out during the delivery.

I've seen HAVs doing laps around the map, and some of them are fast enough to do a complete circuit in the time it would take to call something in.

How is calling in tanks dishonest? they risked their isk investments so they could win, there's nothing dishonest or wrong about that, this is a game about risk vs reward, they risked their tanks for the reward of winning

This is to the first quote.


Have you even driven a tank before? Why the hell do people assume its easy mode?

For me using an AR is easy mode.

Really? You think it will take 16 randoms to kill 1 madrugar? Are you really that ignorant?

It takes 1 good AV player that has fully spec'd AV and knows how to use it to kill a tank. ESPECIALLY in ambush.

One might say, "that's so much sp to fully put into AV"

Well, for a even half decent fit tank they've put a couple mill more sp into it then for your full proto AV weapons.


I can't understand why people think you should be able to solo tanks, has this game went into the toilet that far that when someone has to put 5+ mill sp into one thing, tank, that it should be solo able? Shouldn't it take at least half a team to take it down?

You put 2 fully spec'd AV guys in ambush with a Surya, Surya is toast.

Yet here we are catering to the 90% player base of AR users. Who who'd rather see tanks and other things their weapons can't deal with simply removed or nerfed.

Tanks should be a game changer, its like dropping a carrier to support your BS fleet.....well carriers rep, but you getmthe meaning.


Right now, tanks are simply free points to people who know how to use AV.

In the first build ever ever, tanks were hard to kill. It took almost the entire team.

Then tanks got a major Nerf. Look at the current weapons for tanks, railguns have horrible splash, even railgun installations have a better system, missiles are simply broke, blasters used to be garbage and no one used them, now its the only thing functioning. Tank HP got cut down,

Then AV got a buff.

There are so many problems in the AV vs Vehicle department that CCP should feel like they failed somewhere along the line in that department, and honestly must not play their game much.

So now you want tanks out of ambush? Are you kidding me, thankfully for the time being dust is still called DUST 514

Not

AR DUST 514, The Only Way to be Certain.

+1 finally someone who gets it, welcome to the 10%

Yeah you're right and while were at it ban assault rifles because anyone using one can Pwn any group of ransoms if they are even slightly good

Rofl this^
Just to be sure u know I was sarcastic right?

The tanks themselves don't need nerfing, I think they're fine for serious battles and an organized corp can take them out without breaking their stride.

What's not fine is how easy it is to pubstomp in one, especially in public ambushes where you don't come across any organised resistance. It's why I use them in public matches.

Now I could do the honourable thing and not use tanks in public matches, but when a game has an abusable mechanic it should be up to the developer to address the issue rather than hope the player base will play nice.