Any tool in right hand can be deadly.

Not only OB. Your tank can kill hundreds clones. Now you sad a little that ppl learn how to counter tank or any weapon used in game. If this is ridiculous and unfair... earn OB and fight them back. OB is easy you say, use it.

You lost one clone... they far more.


About ISK... if you want to win, ISK are not relevant. But you can use it right.

Orbital strikes are kill streaks they are not fired from a ship you simply become a squad leader and your squad gains a total of 2.5k war points allowing you to call in an orbital strike. They take no skill they do not have to be fired from a ship all they are is a call of duty kill streak in fact that is exactly what they are. You earn enough kills and destroy enough instillations which gives you WP eventually you earn a precision strike just like Call of duty in which you get a large enough kill streak allowing you to call in some kind of request. So my point here is why the hell should players who get call of duty kill streaks be allowed to drop them on me. I am tired of spending yes 3 - 4 games farming isk for my tank just to send it to the battlefield to get blown up by a orbital strike. Sometimes I can out run orbitals but if you haven't learned they actually have super high super wide splash and the orbital strikes don't just hit dead center in the area you fired them on it actually hits all over the requested area. You'll have to travel probably 50 to 100 meters just before you get out the wide death area that orbital strikes cause. So once again why should I be able to loose something I put 4 rounds worth of money to and countless skills into just to loose it to an orbital strike. I've been able to fight back all the super strong AV grenadiers, all the easy peasy swarm launchers, all the 3 - 4 shot my tank forge gunners so why why am i loosing my tank to call of duty style orbital strikes.

There is no suggestion here for a reason before I suggest anything I want feedback on this. First realize before you reply tanks even the basic ones cost 3 games of farming isk the harder ones can easily cost over 5 games. I have never owned more then 5 tanks at one, while precision cost nothing they are simply kill streaks that can take out just about anything. They cost nothing are easy to get and one efficient squad can call in over 2 before a game ends.

Orbital strikes are kill streaks they are not fired from a ship you simply become a squad leader and your squad gains a total of 2.5k war points allowing you to call in an orbital strike. They take no skill they do not have to be fired from a ship all they are is a call of duty kill streak in fact that is exactly what they are. You earn enough kills and destroy enough instillations which gives you WP eventually you earn a precision strike just like Call of duty in which you get a large enough kill streak allowing you to call in some kind of request. So my point here is why the hell should players who get call of duty kill streaks be allowed to drop them on me. I am tired of spending yes 3 - 4 games farming isk for my tank just to send it to the battlefield to get blown up by a orbital strike. Sometimes I can out run orbitals but if you haven't learned they actually have super high super wide splash and the orbital strikes don't just hit dead center in the area you fired them on it actually hits all over the requested area. You'll have to travel probably 50 to 100 meters just before you get out the wide death area that orbital strikes cause. So once again why should I be able to loose something I put 4 rounds worth of money to and countless skills into just to loose it to an orbital strike. I've been able to fight back all the super strong AV grenadiers, all the easy peasy swarm launchers, all the 3 - 4 shot my tank forge gunners so why why am i loosing my tank to call of duty style orbital strikes.

There is no suggestion here for a reason before I suggest anything I want feedback on this. First realize before you reply tanks even the basic ones cost 3 games of farming isk the harder ones can easily cost over 5 games. I have never owned more then 5 tanks at one, while precision cost nothing they are simply kill streaks that can take out just about anything. They cost nothing are easy to get and one efficient squad can call in over 2 before a game ends.

Rats. I thought this was the QQ Kitten that had never gotten an OB and wanted them to be easier to get. More with the Searching.

But, while I am here I might as well fire the volley I had previously loaded.


Yo, QQ Cutie.

Your wall of text was mostly rambling. If I understood your poorly articulated concerns you are struggling to keep your HAV alive when some horrible Squad Leader has received an OB by virtue of having a Functioning Squad that provides a CoD-like Unfair Advantage.

But what really gets your Soiled Kitten Panties in a twist is that you don't get them and you don't want someone else to get them so they can use them on you and your marginally affordable HAV.

First, DUST rewards Squad behavior and one way they do that is with Orbital Strikes*. Also you seem to have forgotten or never knew but DUST is tied to EVE and they are all anxious to bomb the planets into rubble. This has been part of the basic functionality of DUST from the very beginning. Sorry if you never got the memo. Although everyone else did. You really should read your memos.

You need to realize that you are not driving a good tank as yet (odds are). And you do not have the proper sounds associated with a good Tank driver. So we are less than sympathetic to you and your QQ to change the game to fit your current lack of abilities. I have a dozen or so HAVs prepped and ready to go. I also have a Corp I am supporting while maintaining tens of millions of ISK in the bank. You are farming ISK to play Kitten Tank Driver and it would appear you have much more work to do before you should be playing that portion of the game.

Read the Training Ground Forums. Ask questions. Listen (or read) to what is suggested. You can avoid OBs, out run them sometimes and survive them as well.


* OBs is a generic name. They come in many flavors which you might not realize. There are Barrages, Precision Strikes and several others I forget. They are Not going away so your tears Will continue.

I guess I have no idea what CCP has planned, but I'm assuming that calling in Orbital Strikes will require knowing someone in orbit once this game meshes fully with Eve. As in: you won't just accrue WP and call in a free OS when you get 2.5k. You'll have to call in the strike from a player Eve-side and no player Eve-side means no OS.

The real issue here isn't whether there should be OSs or whether OSs are too powerful, to my way of thinking. The problem is a tank driver complaining that his all powerful tank can get destroyed so easily by an OS. I feel exactly zero pity or sympathy for you, since I play a grunt (happily) and have few, if any, tools that help me much against a well driven tank. I run and live.

Now, it isn't hard in the traditional sense for 4 people to build up 2.5k WP...but that being said, it isn't "free" either. Tanks aren't free in terms of ISK, but they are just about as easy to get. Tanks can be built for much cheaper than 800k ISK and still pack a considerable whallop, so my advice to the OP is that he fit cheap-o tanks if he's worried about losing them so quickly. There is a proverb in Eve: "Only fly what you can afford to lose." If you lose your 15k ISK pilot suit and your 800k ISK tank after gaining 20 kills, but only 350k ISK on the round...maybe rolling tanks isn't for you. Or maybe you should roll two tank versions. Your cheap-o beware of OS militia tank and your beast decked out tank post OS (or in a game where you aren't worried about an OS).

The fact is, tanks are just about the best way to pimp your KDR and in many cases your WP. Grunts need a way to destroy them without chewing through 45 clones and most OSs don't rain down until most matches are half over anyways...meaning 5 to 8 solid minutes of OS free tank mayhem. You benefit from many times many games without OSs in SP and ISK gains at the end of tank killing spree matches, so don't cry when you lose a tank every third match to an OS...

Wanna play in game? there was so much disrespect here I decided it was something I couldn't respond to I'll just have to let it go. However do you want to play in game I want to show you my actual skill level?

I liked your post and agree.

Let them hate.

I have one in general discussions atm that's going good

Check it out.

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Wanna play in game? there was so much disrespect here I decided it was something I couldn't respond to I'll just have to let it go. However do you want to play in game I want to show you my actual skill level?

.....So my point here is why the hell should players who get call of duty kill streaks be allowed to drop them on me. I am tired of spending yes 3 - 4 games farming isk for my tank just to send it to the battlefield to get blown up by a orbital strike. ...".

I'm not trying to get orbital strikes removed I want them to cost a certain amount of money if they are supplied from the war barge. Orbital strikes only cost war points which isn't a currency, it's something you earn like in call of duty where you get kill streaks and get special planes and what not see? Actual Orbital strikes will cost ammo and a ship plus jumping to the system and a EVE Dust connection so why should players get free orbital strikes in quick matches that can destroy suits and vehicles that took hard time to earn. Hope you can see my points I think a simple but small orbital strike fee would make since. If you had a giant gun would you allow both teams to use it or would you make it cost a certain amount of isk? I just don't like the current system maybe I will just have to wait for full game release I know the current system isn't permanent. I read through half your post despite my headache didn't understand much even thought it was nicely written out sry just didn't want to read a full thing bashing me...

they cost the amount of isk a squad spent getting that 2500 wp, usually starting at 300k & up

Not true players can use standard suits or go 0 it is also easy not to die in a tank and a tank is a wp farmer I have made 3,750 in one game alone with 0 deaths in my tanks that is could be 2 or 3 free orbitals in my squad alone.

So you're basically complaining about PS's killing your tank while also pointing out how easy your tank makes it for you to gain PS's, bias much?