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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:24:00 -
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Because you're judging its performance based on pubs. Running into noobs using Standard suits vs a heavy using Standard HMG's.
Range is debatable, but against any B- series assault, it tickles. Unless he's standing still or already ripped.
Militia Heavy >>> Militia Assault
Standard Heavy > Standard Assault
Advanced Heavy < Advanced Assault
Proto Heavy <<<< Proto Assault
And in corp matches, these days, you see more advanced / proto Assault equipment, so heavies are slowly becoming useless.
Strangely enough, for a Proto Heavy to be weaker against a Proto Assault he has to spend WAY more ISK than the Assault guy. Funny logic there, yet people are calling for more nerfs.
Edit: When more people start using Advanced and Proto equipment in pubs, you'll see allot less threads QQ'ing about heavies. |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:29:00 -
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Heavy are just fine, and i expect CCP dont care of complain and care on logik |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:33:00 -
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When the map on ambush get bigger the complain stop |
SIeepy Zan
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:41:00 -
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I love it when people communicate through google translator  |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:46:00 -
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SIeepy Zan wrote:I love it when people communicate through google translator
Lol give me a sentence in french for fun , nah i dont use translator, sorry if my writing is bad but i think you understand what i wrote |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
325
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:47:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:SIeepy Zan wrote:I love it when people communicate through google translator Lol give me a sentence in french for fun , nah i dont use translator, sorry if my writing is bad but i think you understand what i wrote
Yeah we got it  |
SIeepy Zan
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:48:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:SIeepy Zan wrote:I love it when people communicate through google translator Lol give me a sentence in french for fun , nah i dont use translator, sorry if my writing is bad but i think you understand what i wrote
oui |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:54:00 -
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heavies, logi's are support units. the bread and butter of any good squad is your assault units. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2281
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:59:00 -
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HMG needs a slight range reduction
Heavy suit needs more slots
Vk.1 heavy needs a drastic price reduction......246K srsly CCP? |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:59:00 -
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SIeepy Zan wrote:Morathi III wrote:SIeepy Zan wrote:I love it when people communicate through google translator Lol give me a sentence in french for fun , nah i dont use translator, sorry if my writing is bad but i think you understand what i wrote oui
freedom fries. |
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
205
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:10:00 -
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here we go again, beat and kick a dead horse why don't ya? |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:15:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:HMG needs a range reduction
Heavy suit needs more slots
Vk.1 heavy needs a drastic price reduction......246K srsly CCP?
QFT ... only thing i'd add is a reduction in turn speed (possibly_. Even if you are a fatty, you shouldn't be whipping around that HMG like its an AR imo |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:22:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:HMG needs a range reduction
Heavy suit needs more slots
Vk.1 heavy needs a drastic price reduction......246K srsly CCP? QFT ... only thing i'd add is a reduction in turn speed (possibly_. Even if you are a fatty, you shouldn't be whipping around that HMG like its an AR imo
KB+M amplifies this. I'll have sensitivity on max and it's still extremely slow. Using a KB+M apparently makes moving quicker. Strafing, turning, even making vehicles move quicker.
Obviously a glitch, but who knows when it'll be fixed. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:27:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:SIeepy Zan wrote:I love it when people communicate through google translator Lol give me a sentence in french for fun , nah i dont use translator, sorry if my writing is bad but i think you understand what i wrote
Le mercenaire a mang+¬ son mitrailleuse lourde apr+¿s avoir +¬t+¬ assis sur une myrtille
On a serious note, google translate is holding my alliance together on another game  |
Himiko Kuronaga
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:30:00 -
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Why do heavies need a range reduction, exactly?
From the far end of mid field, an assault rifle trading with a heavy will beat the HMG 100% of the time as long as the assault is actually capable of aiming. Even if you train up heavy sharp shooter, the minimum spread isn't effected so you're still missing more and more the farther they are away.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2281
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:20:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Berserker007 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:HMG needs a range reduction
Heavy suit needs more slots
Vk.1 heavy needs a drastic price reduction......246K srsly CCP? QFT ... only thing i'd add is a reduction in turn speed (possibly_. Even if you are a fatty, you shouldn't be whipping around that HMG like its an AR imo KB+M amplifies this. I'll have sensitivity on max and it's still extremely slow. Using a KB+M apparently makes moving quicker. Strafing, turning, even making vehicles move quicker. Obviously a glitch, but who knows when it'll be fixed.
THIS.
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Why do heavies need a range reduction, exactly?
From the far end of mid field, an assault rifle trading with a heavy will beat the HMG 100% of the time as long as the assault is actually capable of aiming. Even if you train up heavy sharp shooter, the minimum spread isn't effected so you're still missing more and more the farther they are away.
from what i know sharpshooter tightens the spread for heavy weapons.....or at least thats what ppl tell me thus making it more effective at range |
Brigitte Newt
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:28:00 -
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I support OP all the way.
Quite frankly I am soooo sick of nerf, fix heavy complaints. In truth, they need huge buff from advance to proto.
If stuff remain the same for us with no change or for worse we will turn into dust and be worst class out there.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:28:00 -
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About the HMG, I have level 3 heavy sharpshooter, it's still just marshmallows. I'll see if that changes in a year when I get it to proficiency level 5  At a distance the thing is only good for cover fire, and killing people who are almost dead... who don't know the meaning of cover. |
Brigitte Newt
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:38:00 -
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Same, I have sharpshooter level 3 and dont see any difference. Only visible at level 5 |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:04:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:About the HMG, I have level 3 heavy sharpshooter, it's still just marshmallows. I'll see if that changes in a year when I get it to proficiency level 5 At a distance the thing is only good for cover fire, and killing people who are almost dead... who don't know the meaning of cover.
yea pretty much this. It hits at range, but it doesn't do much dmg.
I'm hoping for a suit buff and actually see a difference in standard suits compared to proto suits, and not just the difference in CPU suit color, literally a couple extra slots and the HUGE difference in price.
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Fox Gaden
DUST University
Ivy League
163
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:11:00 -
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Heavies do not need a nerf. They need a BUFF to the WP that they give when you kill one.
Killing a LAV gives +50, while killing a HAV gives +150.
Killing an Assault gives +50, while killing a Heavy SHOULD give +80.
They are more expensive and harder to kill. DonGÇÖt nerf the Risk, BUFF their Reward! |
Severus Smith
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
163
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:16:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:About the HMG, I have level 3 heavy sharpshooter, it's still just marshmallows. I'll see if that changes in a year when I get it to proficiency level 5 At a distance the thing is only good for cover fire, and killing people who are almost dead... who don't know the meaning of cover. That pretty much sums it up. I'll go through 300 rounds trying to kill a guy at range only for him to turn and put me in low armor with a few well placed headshots from his AR. Then I realize how dumb I was being for firing an HMG at range, reload, and run in close and shred him in CQC. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:17:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Heavies do not need a nerf. They need a BUFF to the WP that they give when you kill one.
Killing a LAV gives +50, while killing a HAV gives +150.
Killing an Assault gives +50, while killing a Heavy SHOULD give +80.
They are more expensive and harder to kill. DonGÇÖt nerf the Risk, BUFF their Reward!
So by this logic a scout is suppose to get +20...
You'll have everyone running after to kill a heavy, while nobody wants to kill a scout.
Dumbest idea I ever heard. |
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