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Washlee
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:46:00 -
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Just played a few games with the Nova Knives and they are extremely fun , I hear some people complain about them I went 12/5 Just using them :).
Requires alot of patience , Most of the people never saw me coming.
Fun times with these things :) |
Monty Mole Clone
The c64s
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:05:00 -
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its best when you catch a wounded fatty thats reloading and proceed to chop him up face to face |
Don Know
Me My Alts And I
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:27:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:its best when you catch a wounded fatty thats reloading and proceed to chop him up face to face
HAHAHA, might try this when I have DS Lvl 5. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:30:00 -
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They really are fun, I love using them on my alt character just to mess around. |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:31:00 -
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Boost your sprint speed as hard as you can and watch fatties panic as your stay behind their backs while they turn to find you. |
Monty Mole Clone
The c64s
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:54:00 -
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anybody got any thoughts on weather the knives strike twice, so instead of doing 170 the basic knives do 340 with a charge attack? |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:38:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:anybody got any thoughts on weather the knives strike twice, so instead of doing 170 the basic knives do 340 with a charge attack?
I'm pretty sure they only hit once, as the listed damage seems to be about how much damage they do when I use them. Could be wrong though. |
Monty Mole Clone
The c64s
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:44:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:anybody got any thoughts on weather the knives strike twice, so instead of doing 170 the basic knives do 340 with a charge attack? I'm pretty sure they only hit once, as the listed damage seems to be about how much damage they do when I use them. Could be wrong though.
i ask because i 1 shot some scout suits and they have at least 190 health. i do have 3 lvls in hand 2 hand but i thought that just effects normal swings.
if they do hit twice it would make the proto knives lethal, about 1000dps |
Washlee
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:47:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:anybody got any thoughts on weather the knives strike twice, so instead of doing 170 the basic knives do 340 with a charge attack?
Charge hit is damage the is listed
But Im pretty sure you get a melee boost because your melee is with the knife
So charge + attack + melee = devastation |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
165
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:50:00 -
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I believe they do hit twice, based on the testimony of experienced knifers.
ETA: Experienced knifer says "LOL NO". |
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Monty Mole Clone
The c64s
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:54:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I believe they do hit twice, based on the testimony of experienced knifers.
this is good to know, thank you good sir |
Rasputin La'Gar
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:59:00 -
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I kill you people left and right (running at someone with a gun isn't the best idea), but I can honestly see myself starting to use them in the future |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:14:00 -
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I've never been killed by a knife... ever. No clue if I've ever seen one being used. |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:18:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:I've never been killed by a knife... ever. No clue if I've ever seen one being used.
They make a crazy noise. You would remember it. |
Rasputin La'Gar
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:36:00 -
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I just went 4/4 using only nova
They always seem to run past me as I'm about to hit them |
Monty Mole Clone
The c64s
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:44:00 -
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Rasputin La'Gar wrote:I just went 4/4 using only nova
They always seem to run past me as I'm about to hit them
if you dont know how to hold a charge while sprinting
1 r3 melee
2 start charging the knives as quick as poss
3 you can now sprint with a charged attack |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:15:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I believe they do hit twice, based on the testimony of experienced knifers.
Hold your horses right there. I'm an experienced knifer and even I don't think so. Unless a CCP Dev comes here to confirm your suspicion about the knife, I would recommend assuming that the double-strike effect is just the animation and not an actual double hit. The attributes of the knife don't seem to point to anything pertaining to a double-strike but rather to one big strike.
Something to consider before running out there in the battlefield with a butter knife. |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
165
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:19:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I believe they do hit twice, based on the testimony of experienced knifers. Hold your horses right there. I'm an experienced knifer and even I don't think so. Unless a CCP Dev comes here to confirm your suspicion about the knife, I would recommend assuming that the double-strike effect is just the animation and not an actual double hit. The attributes of the knife don't seem to point to anything pertaining to a double-strike but rather to one big strike. Something to consider before running out there in the battlefield with a butter knife.
Was basing that memory of knife threads.
If Maken says that's not how knives work, disregard the double-strike.
ETA: Yeah, randoms said they strike twice and I hadn't seen anyone dismiss the idea. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:20:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:Rasputin La'Gar wrote:I just went 4/4 using only nova
They always seem to run past me as I'm about to hit them if you dont know how to hold a charge while sprinting 1 r3 melee 2 start charging the knives as quick as poss 3 you can now sprint with a charged attack
I recently noticed that once you initiate the above-mentioned steps the nova knives will not start charging until you start sprinting. I can confirm this.
Also, I noticed you can still retain the charge even after inertia-damp-falling your way to the ground. Just remember to not let go of the R1 button while doing so. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:37:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I believe they do hit twice, based on the testimony of experienced knifers. Hold your horses right there. I'm an experienced knifer and even I don't think so. Unless a CCP Dev comes here to confirm your suspicion about the knife, I would recommend assuming that the double-strike effect is just the animation and not an actual double hit. The attributes of the knife don't seem to point to anything pertaining to a double-strike but rather to one big strike. Something to consider before running out there in the battlefield with a butter knife. Was basing that memory of knife threads. If Maken says that's not how knives work, disregard the double-strike. ETA: Yeah, randoms said they strike twice and I hadn't seen anyone dismiss the idea.
In that case, if you ever find the time to squad with someone, do an experiment.
Find out what is the exact HP value of the suit your partner is wearing and find out the exact damage value of the nova knife you are using. Don't forget to account for stacking penalties if using more than one module that effects the same type and remember to consider your current skill levels.
Make sure that your partner's HP total is just above your knife's damage output. If it's just a single strike as I suspect, then your partner will not die. If your partner dies instantly, then it's possible that there may be a double-strike at work.
Check your results by striking your partner from different angles such as the front, back, and the sides. Try the head if it makes a difference.
Edit: I just realized that friendly fire is still off. Oh well, I can still dream. |
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Washlee
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:47:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I believe they do hit twice, based on the testimony of experienced knifers. Hold your horses right there. I'm an experienced knifer and even I don't think so. Unless a CCP Dev comes here to confirm your suspicion about the knife, I would recommend assuming that the double-strike effect is just the animation and not an actual double hit. The attributes of the knife don't seem to point to anything pertaining to a double-strike but rather to one big strike. Something to consider before running out there in the battlefield with a butter knife. Was basing that memory of knife threads. If Maken says that's not how knives work, disregard the double-strike. ETA: Yeah, randoms said they strike twice and I hadn't seen anyone dismiss the idea.
I think with the double strike each knife does half the damage listed
example : 170 / 2 = 85
This is my theory , otherwise its up to dust devs to confirm.
But but they are a fun little weapon to use , makes me feel like a ninja |
Keeriam Miray
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:38:00 -
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They do hit twice... Damage displayed is per 1 hit. Sometimes i do not hit with second knife & victim survives. But not for long in most occasions :)
If the damage is in total, that displayed, you can't kill even a scout with knifes... |
Monty Mole Clone
The c64s
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I believe they do hit twice, based on the testimony of experienced knifers. Hold your horses right there. I'm an experienced knifer and even I don't think so. Unless a CCP Dev comes here to confirm your suspicion about the knife, I would recommend assuming that the double-strike effect is just the animation and not an actual double hit. The attributes of the knife don't seem to point to anything pertaining to a double-strike but rather to one big strike. Something to consider before running out there in the battlefield with a butter knife.
if they dont hit twice how can you explain how i can 1 shot mlt scout suits with the basic knives? if hand 2 hand does not effect the charge up attack they must. also the scout suit with the melee mod of 285 i think it is would make the knives pointless, these are just my observations from using the knives and could be wrong |
leafblades
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.22 16:02:00 -
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My impression of knives was that the attack is separated into two hits, both dealing the listed damage. I, too, have missed my second "swing" mid attack, and they dont quite die all the way. Very frustrating when someone doesnt know when to die. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:17:00 -
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The only way we can settle this once and for all if for a CCP DEV to come into this thread and confirm or dismiss the theory of a double-strike mechanic going on for the nova knives. It's the only thing we need because all we are doing right now is basing our assumptions on simple observations that don't really tell 100% what the mechanics are actually doing code wise.
CCP, please step in to explain. |
SIeepy Zan
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:20:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:The only way we can settle this once and for all if for a CCP DEV to come into this thread and confirm or dismiss the theory of a double-strike mechanic going on for the nova knives. It's the only thing we need because all we are doing right now is basing our assumptions on simple observations that don't really tell 100% what the mechanics are actually doing code wise.
CCP, please step in to explain.
Why not just test it for yourself? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:25:00 -
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SIeepy Zan wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:The only way we can settle this once and for all if for a CCP DEV to come into this thread and confirm or dismiss the theory of a double-strike mechanic going on for the nova knives. It's the only thing we need because all we are doing right now is basing our assumptions on simple observations that don't really tell 100% what the mechanics are actually doing code wise.
CCP, please step in to explain. Why not just test it for yourself?
Because what you see and what is going on in the code are two different things. Besides, until friendly fire is enabled, we won't be able to properly test this whole thing. |
SIeepy Zan
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:30:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:SIeepy Zan wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:The only way we can settle this once and for all if for a CCP DEV to come into this thread and confirm or dismiss the theory of a double-strike mechanic going on for the nova knives. It's the only thing we need because all we are doing right now is basing our assumptions on simple observations that don't really tell 100% what the mechanics are actually doing code wise.
CCP, please step in to explain. Why not just test it for yourself? Because what you see and what is going on in the code are two different things. Besides, until friendly fire is enabled, we won't be able to properly test this whole thing.
Corp battles can be useful for testing  |
myBad Furry
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:32:00 -
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SIeepy Zan wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:SIeepy Zan wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:The only way we can settle this once and for all if for a CCP DEV to come into this thread and confirm or dismiss the theory of a double-strike mechanic going on for the nova knives. It's the only thing we need because all we are doing right now is basing our assumptions on simple observations that don't really tell 100% what the mechanics are actually doing code wise.
CCP, please step in to explain. Why not just test it for yourself? Because what you see and what is going on in the code are two different things. Besides, until friendly fire is enabled, we won't be able to properly test this whole thing. Corp battles can be useful for testing
for what ?
whos E ***** is bigger ?
no there a wast of time and isk .
FW wast of time .
NULL is your time. |
SIeepy Zan
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:33:00 -
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myBad Furry wrote:for what ?
whos E ***** is bigger ?
no there a wast of time and isk .
FW wast of time .
NULL is your time.
Not a bad troll, but your form is a little off |
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