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KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:47:00 -
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Yes its beta I know. Still having very basic issues that should be adressed half a year ago is very frustrating.
- Some times my gun won't reload, I have to pull out my sidearm or toss a nade then switch back to my gun before being able to reload again.
- Some times I can't ADS, it will bring up the menu instead and I have to go get the big map up for it to go away.
- Some times my nades simply won't explode.
- Some times my nanohive just dissapears and I lose one.
- I keep freezing out of games, I restart the game 5-10 times during a normal 5-6 hours of play.
- The medic mechanics are very bad.
- Head glitching snipers which are impossible to shoot back at is also a minor annoyance.
- The terrible spawn mechanics in Ambush is still utter rubbish.
- Lack of any progressive tactical game modes, todays Skirmish is mostly running around, capping and moving on, that goes for 9% of the games, about 90% of them are redline game in my experience. (And yes, about 1% of them are good competitive games.)
- The game gets more and more unplayable until I decide its time to reinstall it again. This comes in the very annoying form of not being able to aim, not being able to run at all and not being able to cook my nades. The game itself gets very skittish and the general framerate is BS. Some have claimed that this is due to a "memory leak", whatever that means and consequently I have to reinstall the game to fix it. I have reinstalled the game at least 20 times by now...
- I could go on into more minor details but I hope you get the general idea, and hopefully you do agree.
- Yes it is a beta, and we are here to "iron out the bugs". it still doesn't explain how a developer can put out a game with so many bugs and glitches. "Lets make an FPS game, we know that the players can't reload their guns from time to time but that is to be expected at this stage...." its pathetic after 8 months or so...
- The only reasons I have for still playing the game is because I still see an epic potential and not least the friendly, joyfull and witty banter of our dear friend the Dark Cloud....
Which leaves me to ask the community, do you really see this as a good game or are you merely here for meeting friends and live in the hope of this becoming great in the future?
(And if you think the game is good in its current state I do pity your low standards...) |
Bald Crusader
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:51:00 -
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And here comes the sanctioned pro-CCP trolls. |
Gauder Berwyck
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:59:00 -
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Bald Crusader wrote:And here comes the sanctioned pro-CCP trolls.
I wonder what they're gonna say now that KingBabar already used the "it's a beta!" argument before they could... Probably won't stop them.
But to answer King, I'm still here because of the potential and friends, not because of the game in it's current state. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:01:00 -
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- Laser Rifle Skills are broken
- Missile Launchers are useless.
- Logistics Dropships are ********, having less CPU/PG than militia variants
- Logistics LAVs Infantry Repair module does not work
- SMG will occasionally 'jam' and continuously reload
- Many equipment modules don't do what they're supposed to, namely the 'specialist' types which are supposed to have reduced CPU/PG requirements
- Occasional random disconnects
- Many maps still have issues where you can 'fall' through the bottom of the map and have to commit suicide in order to get out.
- Nova knives are just short of useless (can't charge while sprinting, controls aren't practical)
- Hit box occasionally will lag behind you and you will die despite running into cover
- Shotgun occasionally outright misses despite a direct shot at <5m. |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
183
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:02:00 -
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The major problem with this game are the spawns they are ridiculous sometimes... i can kill max three people spawning next to me or sometimes not at all. but when the whole freaking enemy team spawns all over me its just game over.
Also the ADS problem you mentioned that brings out the main menu its really annoying too.
Hopefully this problems will later be fixed. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:05:00 -
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1) Wrong forum section (instead of posting in feedback/bugs depending on the point)
2) Made list of things (they don't want to see list of your "broken things" instead focus on1 by 1)
3) Most of it is clean rant (which is not allowed by the forum rules)
And you think devs gonna read this? |
Bald Crusader
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:09:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:1) Wrong forum section (instead of posting in feedback/bugs depending on the point)
2) Made list of things (they don't want to see list of your "broken things" instead focus on1 by 1)
3) Most of it is clean rant (which is not allowed by the forum rules)
And you think devs gonna read this? God you need a dictionary.
Do you even know what a 'rant' means?
Although, CCP seem to have their own definition unfortunately so you might have caught it - i.e. anything they don't like is a rant. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:12:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:1) Wrong forum section (instead of posting in feedback/bugs depending on the point)
2) Made list of things (they don't want to see list of your "broken things" instead focus on1 by 1)
3) Most of it is clean rant (which is not allowed by the forum rules)
And you think devs gonna read this?
Gotta love people like you that get mad when people make valid points. Obviously you don't understand the point of beta testers.
1) not the wrong section if he wanted player feedback, so that point is out the window.
2) wasn't intended for devs, so he can make a list for people to read. (as to your other points, a dev most likely will read this)
3)??? You've obviously never seen mad DUST players rant.
yes King could have left some parts out, but that doesn't make his opinion or points any less valid. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:17:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:1) Wrong forum section (instead of posting in feedback/bugs depending on the point)
2) Made list of things (they don't want to see list of your "broken things" instead focus on1 by 1)
3) Most of it is clean rant (which is not allowed by the forum rules)
And you think devs gonna read this?
1. This is a discussion thread meant for other forumites not meant for CCP, I ask the community a question about if they actually think this game is good.
2. I think just about all these issues have been mentioned in seperate posts on the feedback section, many of them by me.
3. Clean rant? What does that mean? They are all very legitimate faults with a game that I've played for 8 months now.
The sad part is that if I use AUR stuff in my loadouts and die due to to "the game killing me", like the mentioned reload bug, that is CCP making me lose my money due to not even getting the most basic of basic mechanics working properly.
Perhaps I should record some of these issues and ask for a refund....
Edit: I wrote this before the post above me came, so +1 to you my friend... |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:23:00 -
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- Some times I can't ADS, it will bring up the menu instead and I have to go get the big map up for it to go away.
Bug reports section -> that way
- Some times my nades simply won't explode.
Bug reports section -> that way
- Some times my nanohive just dissapears and I lose one.
Bug reports section -> that way
- I keep freezing out of games, I restart the game 5-10 times during a normal 5-6 hours of play.
Bug reports section -> that way (you probably have too many chat channels open)
- The medic mechanics are very bad.
Good feedback, "are very bad" but -> feedback section
- Head glitching snipers which are impossible to shoot back at is also a minor annoyance.
Bug reports section -> that way
- The terrible spawn mechanics in Ambush is still utter rubbish.
Feedback section
- Lack of any progressive tactical game modes, todays Skirmish is mostly running around, capping and moving on, that goes for 9% of the games, about 90% of them are redline game in my experience. (And yes, about 1% of them are good competitive games.)
Feedback section
- The game gets more and more unplayable until I decide its time to reinstall it again. This comes in the very annoying form of not being able to aim, not being able to run at all and not being able to cook my nades. The game itself gets very skittish and the general framerate is BS. Some have claimed that this is due to a "memory leak", whatever that means and consequently I have to reinstall the game to fix it. I have reinstalled the game at least 20 times by now...
Bug reports section -> that way (you probably have too many chat channels open)
- I could go on into more minor details but I hope you get the general idea, and hopefully you do agree.
Agree on what exactly? That beta has bugs? Yes, it does have bugs.
- Yes it is a beta, and we are here to "iron out the bugs". it still doesn't explain how a developer can put out a game with so many bugs and glitches. "Lets make an FPS game, we know that the players can't reload their guns from time to time but that is to be expected at this stage...." its pathetic after 8 months or so...
Not constructive, therefore - rant
- The only reasons I have for still playing the game is because I still see an epic potential and not least the friendly, joyfull and witty banter of our dear friend the Dark Cloud....
Again, not constructive or helpful to the game. But this point should probably only be in this forum section for love spreading.
So... yeah... |
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:42:00 -
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whoah dude, felling your pain. Makes me think i'm probably lucky coz i dont have that much problem.
- Some times my gun won't reload, I have to pull out my sidearm or toss a nade then switch back to my gun before being able to reload again.
=>That one is indeed a shocker. Sometimes it doesnt want to reload, sometimes it just doesnt fire... Always nice against a heavy. Must have happened to me 10 times or so
- Some times I can't ADS, it will bring up the menu instead and I have to go get the big map up for it to go away.
=> This one must have happened to me maybe half a dozen time. And it's a pretty recent bug. But agreed it's shocking to have that kind of issues.
- Some times my nanohive just dissapears and I lose one.
=> Lost 2 in a row yesterday... boring
- Some times my nades simply won't explode.
=> That one is a real pain as it's a very common bug. How many HAVs ran away from me du to nades not working, how many rush of 2-3 players werent sanctionned by my cooked nade coz it simply didnt blow up...
- I keep freezing out of games, I restart the game 5-10 times during a normal 5-6 hours of play.
=> On that one, i dont have as many problems. I tend not to freeze anymore since Chromosome. And i can play 4-5 hours with "only" having to restart once. The main issue i'm having is with the vocal system that tends to go all wonky and then just disconnects you from the game. That and the occasional never ending loading screen.
- The game gets more and more unplayable until I decide its time to reinstall it again.... [....]
=> Tbh, i never reinstalled the game since first build of the closed beta  And never felt an absolute need to even i considered it. Maybe i should try it
Overall, i'm here for the end game. The potential behind Dust is huge if CCP manages to achieve its goal in terms of persistence. I hear about games like destiny or PS2 and their persistence. PS2's persistence is imo, completely bogus... The point of conquest is nothing more but glorified MAG contracts (own that part of continent, get 10% more $ that in the end have no purpose etc..) And if we dont know much about Destiny, i find hard to believe they can reach something as strong as thousands of planets, an almost IRL economics, and global fights over an entire galaxy of players with just one title.
Also, not any really decent multiplayer FPS on PS3 at the moment. So yeah Dust has many flaws, but nothing that cannot be handle. Real problem with Videogames nowadays, and especially online shooters, is the lack of ambition, of immersion. So i'll always back up a dev that wants to go into new territory.
Finally, people trash talk about Dust a lot. But the main 95% of the players who tried it never played corp games like the ones i had the chance to do. WTFR vs SYN or PXPRXO or IMPSWARS, SI, GAC, KEQ, RND, OTB, LOTIS, HELLSTORM were absolutely crazy ass games when not bothered by extreme lag. The feeling that your game plan, organization, choices matters A LOT in the outcome of the fight has never been as obvious in any other game. Here you have actual tactic. A real feeling of planned war.
And those fights are just 8vs8. I can't wait to battle against those same corps in 24vs24 games. Hell the ballet of HAVs, Dropships, lasers flying around, battling for a location that in the eye of a newcomer would be of no interest will be even bigger, even better.
Ok i got carried away so i'll just stop
CCP, FIX THOSE DAMN TECHNICAL ISSUE. DONT LET PROGRAMMING 101 RUIN WHAT COULD BE THE BEST CONCEPT OF THE DECADE FOR AN ONLINE FPS. or i'll burn down the harpa center  |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:47:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:- Some times I can't ADS, it will bring up the menu instead and I have to go get the big map up for it to go away.
Bug reports section -> that way
- Some times my nades simply won't explode.
Bug reports section -> that way
- Some times my nanohive just dissapears and I lose one.
Bug reports section -> that way
- I keep freezing out of games, I restart the game 5-10 times during a normal 5-6 hours of play.
Bug reports section -> that way (you probably have too many chat channels open)
- The medic mechanics are very bad.
Good feedback, "are very bad" but -> feedback section
- Head glitching snipers which are impossible to shoot back at is also a minor annoyance.
Bug reports section -> that way
- The terrible spawn mechanics in Ambush is still utter rubbish.
Feedback section
- Lack of any progressive tactical game modes, todays Skirmish is mostly running around, capping and moving on, that goes for 9% of the games, about 90% of them are redline game in my experience. (And yes, about 1% of them are good competitive games.)
Feedback section
- The game gets more and more unplayable until I decide its time to reinstall it again. This comes in the very annoying form of not being able to aim, not being able to run at all and not being able to cook my nades. The game itself gets very skittish and the general framerate is BS. Some have claimed that this is due to a "memory leak", whatever that means and consequently I have to reinstall the game to fix it. I have reinstalled the game at least 20 times by now...
Bug reports section -> that way (you probably have too many chat channels open)
- I could go on into more minor details but I hope you get the general idea, and hopefully you do agree.
Agree on what exactly? That beta has bugs? Yes, it does have bugs.
- Yes it is a beta, and we are here to "iron out the bugs". it still doesn't explain how a developer can put out a game with so many bugs and glitches. "Lets make an FPS game, we know that the players can't reload their guns from time to time but that is to be expected at this stage...." its pathetic after 8 months or so...
Not constructive, therefore - rant
- The only reasons I have for still playing the game is because I still see an epic potential and not least the friendly, joyfull and witty banter of our dear friend the Dark Cloud....
Again, not constructive or helpful to the game. But this point should probably only be in this forum section for love spreading.
So... yeah...
LOL like I don't know all that. These issues have more or less all been posted in the respective bugs report and feedback forums many times by many people already. When it comes to the medic mechanics I've made two seperate threads, one in feedback and one in the general discussion forums to get some player feedback.
The reason behind this post is to bring up a few of the many lets call it "noob developer" bugs in this game. I have IMO the right to ask the community the question if they actually think this game is any good or if they merely play it for the social aspect and the faith of this once becoming a good game. What is wrong with that? (Except for me calling the topic "todays rant.)
Am I supposed to go and make another 20 threads in the various forums adressing each fault individually when its been done by myself and many others many times before? What is the point of that? And do you seriously mean that all topics that isn't "constructive" in your narrow defined way should be banned from the general discussion forums? Good luck mate.
And lastly, too many chat channels open? I have besides the default, SI public, alliance, and a corp battle channels. So 3 "extra". I do pay for UVTs for this, am I to expect the game not to work properly because I (barely) use a function I have payed for? LOL |
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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
759
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:47:00 -
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I'm not sure if this falls more into Feedback/Requests or Technical Support/Bugs. I GUESS most of it is a Technical Support/Bugs.
But despite being a list of issues, it's not a rant, so moving from General Discussions to Technical Support/Bugs.
Also, many of these are known issues and are being addressed. |
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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.02.21 12:42:00 -
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Bald Crusader wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:1) Wrong forum section (instead of posting in feedback/bugs depending on the point)
2) Made list of things (they don't want to see list of your "broken things" instead focus on1 by 1)
3) Most of it is clean rant (which is not allowed by the forum rules)
And you think devs gonna read this? God you need a dictionary. Do you even know what a 'rant' means? Although, CCP seem to have their own definition unfortunately so you might have caught it - i.e. anything they don't like is a rant. And here is the knee jerk frothing that requires references to God and Dictionary.
Do you even know that a rant is useless garbage and just because it is by your bestest buddy on the whole block it is still just drivel?
And you like it because it is Anti-CCP drivel of the very best kind. With no good intentions nor expectations.
You are a waste of bits. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2013.02.21 13:39:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Bald Crusader wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:1) Wrong forum section (instead of posting in feedback/bugs depending on the point)
2) Made list of things (they don't want to see list of your "broken things" instead focus on1 by 1)
3) Most of it is clean rant (which is not allowed by the forum rules)
And you think devs gonna read this? God you need a dictionary. Do you even know what a 'rant' means? Although, CCP seem to have their own definition unfortunately so you might have caught it - i.e. anything they don't like is a rant. And here is the knee jerk frothing that requires references to God and Dictionary. Do you even know that a rant is useless garbage and just because it is by your bestest buddy on the whole block it is still just drivel? And you like it because it is Anti-CCP drivel of the very best kind. With no good intentions nor expectations. You are a waste of bits.
Anti CCP drivel?
No, not at all. I have no idea what the precise meaning of the word "rant" is nor do I think its very important. I merely highlighted some issues that have been wrong with this game for quite the long while now. I still play the game, almost every day, all day, but not because the game is any good, just because I'm a grinding tryhard which no one like in real life so I have to get my friends online. The game in itself just isn't good at all. If you don't get this you're either a fanboy or have very low standards as far as quality of FPS games go.
My intention is to get a feeler out there cause I really hope its not just me that think this game is garbage and play for the social aspect and the future potential. The whole point was wiped away once the DEV mowed this away from the general discussion forums, they obviously don't want negative posts on their main page. I expected feedback fro various poeple, some will agree, some will not know of many of these issues and some will be fanboys to and tell me to go and play COD.
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