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KatanaPT
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:35:00 -
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Just a idea, as a dropship pilot i really would love if we could fit some kind of minigun on the bird, as in a Huey in vietnam or a modern transport helicopter. Just a way to lay down supressing fire and actually gain some WP instead of what we are having nowadays. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
26
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:48:00 -
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Wow great idea I see no effectiveness of blasters their range is garbage and drop ships need to fly high up making them pointless. Rail guns wont be accurate enough and missiles aren't even accurate anymore and the damage unless hitting the enemy precisely sucks. A mini gun is mounted on so many choppers in real life I think it would be the standard and best mounted gun for a drop ship.
Version would be:
High rate of fire average damage medium range mounted turret
High rate of fire average damage but farther range for increased pg and cpu munted turret
Slow rate of fire high damage medium range mounted turret
High rate of fire average damage but small rectile for increased accuracy for increased pg and cpu mounted turret |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:57:00 -
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HMGs have a similar range to Small Blaster Turrets so I see no real value in them for a Dropship. And the HMG requires actual ammo while a Blaster is a directed energy weapon which currently requires none. I would have to do the calculation regarding each as initially it seems the HMG is significantly more powerful than the Blaster Turrets. Which may be your intention.
A better option I suspect is using the Nerfed Missile Turrets. The Cycling Missile Turret is more effective at distance than one might suspect. They are still significantly broken but holding the trigger down and using auto-fire does seem to mitigate the problem*.
* I would suspect that the bug in the code is variable initialization when it is fired and the cycling version doesn't have to restart the process, just continue it. |
KatanaPT
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 13:03:00 -
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I just suggested the HMG or a mini gun because of modern comparisons, even if we consider them (the dropship) to be a transport ship instead of a gunship, they should have better guns or more effective. Another thing i really, really consider it a broken gameplay is why in the heavens cant my passengers not fire back? (im sorry if im wrong) They can be shot at, even if they arent manning the turrets, its tottaly ilogical, in my opinion. As a final note, please, please DEVS, give some love to the dropship, its a broken and failed attempt at giving us some sort of air cavalry or transportation. A dropship pilot almost doesnt earn any WP, almost doesnt have a effective role in the map, and amazingly can lost a very expensive piece of equipment just by bumping it in a rail or antenna (not to mention trying to land). |
KatanaPT
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:49:00 -
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Anyone with other opinions and ideas on this? Thank you |
Meeko Fent
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:34:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:I just suggested the HMG or a mini gun because of modern comparisons, even if we consider them (the dropship) to be a transport ship instead of a gunship, they should have better guns or more effective. Another thing i really, really consider it a broken gameplay is why in the heavens cant my passengers not fire back? (im sorry if im wrong) They can be shot at, even if they arent manning the turrets, its tottaly ilogical, in my opinion. As a final note, please, please DEVS, give some love to the dropship, its a broken and failed attempt at giving us some sort of air cavalry or transportation. A dropship pilot almost doesnt earn any WP, almost doesnt have a effective role in the map, and amazingly can lost a very expensive piece of equipment just by bumping it in a rail or antenna (not to mention trying to land).
Sir, just cause you want to make a modern comparisan to this game, I must tell you, THIS ISN'T IN OUR GALAXY. Read the Weapons in DUST 514 Dev Blog, and you'll Get what I mean.
" we wanted to avoid the feeling of GÇ£Vietnam in spaceGÇ¥ that you sometimes see in sci-fi games." |
Waruiko DUST
G I A N T
90
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:44:00 -
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if you can't use blasters to suppress then you aren't using the DS or blasters right. there are Extended range blasters. Try those for a bit. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
970
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Posted - 2013.02.22 17:42:00 -
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Skill into blasters and have your gunner do the same.
It's second hand, but there is a believable report that CCP Blam stated that the pilot and gunner turret skills stack.
That can get you a 70% damage bonus which when applied to the most powerful small blaster turret can achieve a rate of 1,024 HP / sec.
It takes a steady pilot and a good gunner to put most of that on target, but it is a worthy weapon if you apply both player and character skill to. |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.02.22 17:53:00 -
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i would kinda like to see some kind of offensive weapon tied to the pilot . maybe require you to activate a hover mode to use it . so as to make it fair and not stupid op ? |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2013.02.22 17:56:00 -
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Or, better yet, you could just wait for attack aircraft to come out. |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
385
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Posted - 2013.02.22 17:57:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:I just suggested the HMG or a mini gun because of modern comparisons, even if we consider them (the dropship) to be a transport ship instead of a gunship, they should have better guns or more effective. Another thing i really, really consider it a broken gameplay is why in the heavens cant my passengers not fire back? (im sorry if im wrong) They can be shot at, even if they arent manning the turrets, its tottaly ilogical, in my opinion. As a final note, please, please DEVS, give some love to the dropship, its a broken and failed attempt at giving us some sort of air cavalry or transportation. A dropship pilot almost doesnt earn any WP, almost doesnt have a effective role in the map, and amazingly can lost a very expensive piece of equipment just by bumping it in a rail or antenna (not to mention trying to land).
To be honest if you're still crashing when you're trying to land you need to practise some more, but I agree with you that DS's need some love |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:00:00 -
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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:Or, better yet, you could just wait for attack aircraft to come out.
did you just ask me to wait for a new killing machine . when i could just make my own .....BLASPHEMER 
i don't think out attack ships are going to be here soon . maybe a year .. ?
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Lorilai Libertas
the Aurum Grinder and Company
20
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Posted - 2013.02.22 19:16:00 -
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expect this when minmatar vehicles are added |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:02:00 -
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for everyone hating on the blasters.... in the right hands they are VERY DEADLY. as long as your not using the militia garbage of course. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
435
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:11:00 -
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Laser and Minmatar Turrets are expected in the future, chill. Also, blasters can do more damage for what it's worth. They beat the HMG range any day. |
Godin Thekiller
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
14
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:26:00 -
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1: Autocannons are supposed to come next build, as well as artillery, which is like mass drivers.
2: blasters are hybrid weapons, not energy. They fire plasma. Any EVE or decent dust player knows that, so your new I suppose. |
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