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Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
26
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:19:00 -
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Hey guys I have been on the forums for a bit longer now and it feels like I can't even post an idea any more that gets any real feedback. When ever I post an idea, opinion, or feedback the nasty trolls get on and post how I am doing it wrong and how I am a terrible player and to keep QQing more which is an immature way of saying keep crying. Honestly I thought the QQ more kids were only for combat arm 12 year olds but I see dusters aren't much more mature. I am also seeing them in dust 514 matches as I have jeeps try and run in to my tank and kill me, team mates jump in my tank and spam the guns with no real skill it's just a give away to my tanks position, and locals players spam hurtful or trollish comments to my opinions in local chat. I really did notice the trolls come out in dust it was like a portion of the gamers who popped up and started to infect the hole thing it feels like a growing cancer. The good thing about the trolls however is that they have no real skill and actually lack intelligence in forums they don't realize how anti productive they are and how childish they look. I have no real respect for them or anyone who can't do something as simple as respect a thread especially since the average age for eve players is 27 and I think dust players are quite old as well.
Here are some comments I saw in some threads that offered no real productivity to the idea or opinion.
Your tears are delicious, feed me more
i've played with tank pilots, they rarely lose their tanks, you're doing it wrong
Of course these are only two post out of one thread comparing to the 100s that are up but I have even had someone call me a ***** and a big baby in dust 514 and tell me I need to stop complaining in the forums which was way out of line.
Fixes*
Now of course this just isn't a rant post I want to propose some ways to protect the forums and dusters a like. Of course one in game dust 514 feature to stop trolling is the block option it allows you to block communications between players there is also the "mute" option. But I feel there needs to be more mainly in the forums, I think a good idea would be for disliking a comment all players would be allowed to dislike hateful comments if 10 people disliked a comment the comment would be blocked. Allow the person who created the thread to block communications with certain players, this would block that person from being able to post in their threads. Request message delete from CCP in which a hateful comment would be removed if CCP deemed it harassing, hateful, or an not on topic reply. CCP should also add a report player button in Dust 514 or a create petition option like they have in EVE.
Lastly guys yes I have trolled before but it's not something I do every day to annoy people everyone should be able to show respect, the forums should be treated maturely if you are an adult you should understand this 100%. If I met anyone in real life who told me to QQ I would probably loose it. |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:23:00 -
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+1
Edit:
And the trollolympics begins!!!
Mirror, mirror in the wall, who's the trollest of them all ?
For more information, keep reading:
2nd Edit:
And the winners are ;
1st place - udc
udc wrote:so basically this thread is something like this:
OP:
"Bawwwww other player's arent sympathetic to me being bad at this game CCP pls fix so ppl cant hurt my feeling's"
Everyone else:
"lol"
2nd place - ChromeBreaker
ChromeBreaker wrote:Trolling is a time honored tradition in all wakes of the gaming world. You may not like it but its not going away, damn some of the best trolls are developers lol. You will not find a game on the planet without trolls, and the eve universe has some of the greatest.
And so in the time honored tradition to which i speak... HTFU, your tears are going to make me fat.
Please note this is in no way a personal attack, on you or what you think, but an expression of my own opinion.
3rd Edit:
And the special awards go to :
For completely missing the point, and for spelling "dissuade" wrongly.
semperfi1999 wrote:This is why the imperfect formed. To disuade people of this horrible notion of trolls not being good in game.
Imperfects: Best trolls and even better players.
BTW your tears are delicious please keep crying because someone sent you hate mail over a game.
For a masterful use of the word "Newberry", which no body knows what it really means.
Vermaak Doe wrote:Public forum = everyone can bash on your bad ideas newberry |
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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
759
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:24:00 -
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Just to make you aware, there currently is a tool to report posts which break the rules. It is the flag icon next to the timestamp at the top of every post. If you feel a post is breaking the rules, please report it and myself, CCP Frame, GM Hercules, or one of our CCL volunteers will see it and act appropriately. |
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Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
26
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:34:00 -
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Thank you for informing me I just want people to know harassment is not acceptable in games for me it was kinda like learning my rights, no players can not treat me like crap and no I don't have to deal with. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
155
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:39:00 -
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Read between the lines, so to speak.
"Your tears are delicious"
Equates to "I like salty food."
"Rarely lose tanks"
-> "I like pub stomping"
"HTFU"
-> "I'm sorry, none of us know the solution."
"Imperfects"
-> "I hope this becomes a threadnaught."
"It's a beta"
-> "I like reminding developers I'm on their side because it makes me feel fuzzy and warm."
"You're doing it wrong"
-> "I know how to do it right, so I'm better than you."
"Tldr"
-> "Your opinion is irrelevant to me."
"Your opinion is irrelevant to me."
-> "I like what you're saying but I don't think it'll work."
"I like what you're saying but I don't think it'll work."
-> "I wish I had thought of this before you so I could get credit.
"+1"
-> "Cool."
And the list goes on. I see what you mean though. Even implied meanings don't provide much feedback. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:46:00 -
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Trolling is a time honored tradition in all wakes of the gaming world. You may not like it but its not going away, damn some of the best trolls are developers lol. You will not find a game on the planet without trolls, and the eve universe has some of the greatest.
And so in the time honored tradition to which i speak... HTFU, your tears are going to make me fat.
Please note this is in no way a personal attack, on you or what you think, but an expression of my own opinion |
Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
26
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:50:00 -
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Yes its part of all games but can become harassment or just harsh, I am pretty good player however I think I could stomp the average troll in a game. |
Sool Stealers
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:53:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:
Now of course this just isn't a rant post I want to propose some ways to protect the forums and dusters a like. Of course one in game dust 514 feature to stop trolling is the block option it allows you to block communications between players there is also the "mute" option. But I feel there needs to be more mainly in the forums, I think a good idea would be for disliking a comment all players would be allowed to dislike hateful comments if 10 people disliked a comment the comment would be blocked.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRrb5xpEpcw[/url]
Okay, I might be ne here, but this is a god damned awful idea, sure, it might be fine for a while, but in the end it will become "I don't like you're opinion so Ima down vote"
Which effectively stops any form of intelligent discussion on a legitimate topic, just look at how the LoL forums turned out |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:56:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Trolling is a time honored tradition in all wakes of the gaming world. You may not like it but its not going away, damn some of the best trolls are developers lol. You will not find a game on the planet without trolls, and the eve universe has some of the greatest.
And so in the time honored tradition to which i speak... HTFU, your tears are going to make me fat.
Please note this is in no way a personal attack, on you or what you think, but an expression of my own opinion
Now you trolling a topic about trolls ?
And btw, you have not idea how wrong you are.... trolls are hated in the gaming community. What you think is "cool", makes you look like a spoiled teenager in the eyes of every on else.
Trolls are not COOL. |
General John Ripper
Baltar Research
22
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:58:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Read between the lines, so to speak.
"Your tears are delicious"
Equates to "I like salty food."
"Rarely lose tanks"
-> "I like pub stomping"
"HTFU"
-> "I'm sorry, none of us know the solution."
"Imperfects"
-> "I hope this becomes a threadnaught."
"It's a beta"
-> "I like reminding developers I'm on their side because it makes me feel fuzzy and warm."
"You're doing it wrong"
-> "I know how to do it right, so I'm better than you."
"Tldr"
-> "Your opinion is irrelevant to me."
"Your opinion is irrelevant to me."
-> "I like what you're saying but I don't think it'll work."
"I like what you're saying but I don't think it'll work."
-> "I wish I had thought of this before you so I could get credit.
"+1"
-> "Cool."
And the list goes on. I see what you mean though. Even implied meanings don't provide much feedback.
Your interpretations are priceless! |
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:00:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Yes its part of all games but can become harassment or just harsh, I am pretty good player however I think I could stomp the average troll in a game.
Harassment is different, if someone wont let something go, then thats not trolling any more, and thats when things get serious. And you wont find anyone who disagrees with that.
But if you make a comment, you have to realize that someone is going to disagree with you... even if its just for the sake of disagreeing. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:02:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Trolling is a time honored tradition in all wakes of the gaming world. You may not like it but its not going away, damn some of the best trolls are developers lol. You will not find a game on the planet without trolls, and the eve universe has some of the greatest.
And so in the time honored tradition to which i speak... HTFU, your tears are going to make me fat.
Please note this is in no way a personal attack, on you or what you think, but an expression of my own opinion Now you trolling a topic about trolls ? And btw, you have not idea how wrong you are.... trolls are hated in the gaming community. What you think is "cool", makes you look like a spoiled teenager in the eyes of every on else. Trolls are not COOL.
Ha trolling a troll post troll. +1 sir
Edit: I troll for the betterment of threads  If i can make you argue your point, rationalize your intent, or even make you think a bit further beyond "ugh heavies ar OP nurf dem now" type posts, i will troll till the cows come home |
udc
Sektor Sieben Kybernetik GWK
17
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Posted - 2013.02.20 13:21:00 -
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so basically this thread is something like this:
OP:
"Bawwwww other player's arent sympathetic to me being bad at this game CCP pls fix so ppl cant hurt my feeling's"
Everyone else:
"lol"
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Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
26
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Posted - 2013.02.20 15:45:00 -
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udc wrote:so basically this thread is something like this:
OP:
"Bawwwww other player's arent sympathetic to me being bad at this game CCP pls fix so ppl cant hurt my feeling's"
Everyone else:
"lol"
derp |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:10:00 -
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For some reason, it seems that trolling has actually got lesser nowadays.
(Knocks on wood! ...Darn too late, guess I just ordered a couple of fat trolls this way...) |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:14:00 -
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Ughh, people are so sensitive now a days. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:34:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Yes its part of all games but can become harassment or just harsh, I am pretty good player however I think I could stomp the average troll in a game.
This is why the imperfect formed. To disuade people of this horrible notion of trolls not being good in game.
Imperfects: Best trolls and even better players.
BTW your tears are delicious please keep crying because someone sent you hate mail over a game. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:37:00 -
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Public forum = everyone can bash on your bad ideas newberry |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:51:00 -
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Unfortunately the level of discourse on the web in general is fairly poor, and game forums are particularly bad due to the competitive nature and low median age of the participants.
This beta forum's primary purpose should be to improve the game during its initial development, but many folks use it the way they use forums for fully released games. They strut, troll, and complain about anything that runs contrary to their favorite play style. A few try to be constructive, and the best of those are a balanced look at an issue after having experienced both sides.
There can be legitimate differences of opinion about features, but people can succumb to the temptation to assume a thread belongs to the "unwarranted complaint" if it runs contrary to a strongly held opinion. Then they throw out the HTFU or QQ'ING comments. This could be due to having no legitimate argument of their own, or in some cases due to the fatigue of having to repeat a long refutation that they have made previously when the topic came up multiple times in the past. It's hard to tell sometimes.
I can only offer you encouragement to keep posting constructively. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:27:00 -
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Internet space marines is serious business! |
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Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
26
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:39:00 -
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Funny how your calling me newberry and telling me to stop QQing honestly I thought you could at least be original about it. Trolling use to be where someone would annoy you for two hours posting your little QQs makes me laugh ^_^
QQ more QQ more newberry |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
384
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:43:00 -
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Very helpful paran, oh and to the op trolls tend to hit you using perceived flaws in your argument, they enable you to improve your argument. Otherwise, ignore them. |
CLOSEDBETA TSTR-est E3
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:44:00 -
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/emote dances into thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1orMXD_Ijbs |
Jathniel
G I A N T
38
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:56:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Trolling is a time honored tradition in all wakes of the gaming world. You may not like it but its not going away, damn some of the best trolls are developers lol. You will not find a game on the planet without trolls, and the eve universe has some of the greatest.
And so in the time honored tradition to which i speak... HTFU, your tears are going to make me fat.
Please note this is in no way a personal attack, on you or what you think, but an expression of my own opinion Now you trolling a topic about trolls ? And btw, you have not idea how wrong you are.... trolls are hated in the gaming community. What you think is "cool", makes you look like a spoiled teenager in the eyes of every on else. Trolls are not COOL. Ha trolling a troll post troll. +1 sir Edit: I troll for the betterment of threads If i can make you argue your point, rationalize your intent, or even make you think a bit further beyond "ugh heavies ar OP nurf dem now" type posts, i will troll till the cows come home
THIS.
+1 |
Jathniel
G I A N T
38
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:05:00 -
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OP, understand that trolls tend to be very technical. So articulate clearly and concisely.
They sometimes go on tangents not even related to the post topic.
If anything they are helpful for people new to Internet forums. They sharpen your wit, and teach you not to take yourself too seriously.
Just don't rage at them. There's a good solid line between a troll and an abusive player. In time you will discern it. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:11:00 -
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Basically the op only wants people who agree with him on his threads  |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:15:00 -
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@ panther, in case you were to dim to realize by now it refers to anyone relatively new to the beta which regularly suggests tired ideas and/or complains about so called "op" weapons. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
26
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:46:00 -
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this is how i picture the trolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NHT9lZdBKU |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:14:00 -
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The "cummunity " has run off the people who offer constructive criticism. The only people really left are die hards, fan boys who refuse to see flaws, and new guys that don't know any better
This community makes me sad bc all they do is suck up to CCP and lick boot |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:57:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:constructive criticism
Pics or it didn't happen.
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