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KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 441	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:20:00 - [1] - Quote I mean come on, 1000 HP and a Duvolle? How much help do you need? The word "crutch" has been thrown around a lot on these forums...
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 128	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:23:00 - [2] - Quote KingBabar wrote: I mean come on, 1000 HP and a Duvolle? How much help do you need? The word "crutch" has been thrown around a lot on these forums... With a duvolle its a cheap tactic..other AR's tend to be fine though
Mad Mav Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned 22	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:25:00 - [3] - Quote Expecting threads complaining that this combination is OP. Bound to happen at some point.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:25:00 - [4] - Quote Assault suits are still faster and can easily out maneuver a heavy suit.
Blamejudg3s KEQ KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:25:00 - [5] - Quote Depends on what their Heavy Weapon sharpshooter is at... But Heavies seem to be severely overrated outside defending letters on skim junction aka frame rate is **** map
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:35:00 - [6] - Quote I was Heavy AR running proto AR for 5-6 months. Probably more. It's not as effective as you think as I couldn't be competitive against assault players who knew what they were doing. It really needs a mouse/keyboard so you can make every shot count - if you're shooting without hitting you're going to cry a lot. It's not cheap being heavy and putting on a weapon that limits your firepower to 60 shots a clip is going to get you into very rough situations. We can't run - only fight or die. HMG is made for that sort of combat - AR isn't. So I'd say it's great for pub stomping and countering other heavies who don't have back up - and that's it.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:39:00 - [7] - Quote KingBabar wrote: I mean come on, 8000 HP and a proto blaster? How much help do you need? The word "crutch" has been thrown around a lot on these forums... Fixed.
CLOSEDBETA TSTR-est E3 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:47:00 - [8] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: I was Heavy AR running proto AR for 5-6 months. Probably more. It's not as effective as you think as I couldn't be competitive against assault players who knew what they were doing. It really needs a mouse/keyboard so you can make every shot count - if you're shooting without hitting you're going to cry a lot. It's not cheap being heavy and putting on a weapon that limits your firepower to 60 shots a clip is going to get you into very rough situations. We can't run - only fight or die. HMG is made for that sort of combat - AR isn't. So I'd say it's great for pub stomping and countering other heavies who don't have back up - and that's it. SO true To OP: the AR heavy has been tried before by solid players...it fails in the end
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:03:00 - [9] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: We can't run - only fight or die. It's so simple, and yet no one understand this.
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 92	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:08:00 - [10] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: We can't run - only fight or die. It's so simple, and yet no one understand this. I think it's because most players play like the same applies to them in every other suit. It doesn't.

Fargen Icehole SyNergy Gaming 67	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:21:00 - [11] - Quote IMO Why the hell would I want to use a Duvolle? For similar cost, and less CPU, I can use the MH82 HMG. It's much better than even a Duvolle at mowing down everybody within medium range or closer. Especially at mowing down multiple people.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:24:00 - [12] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: KingBabar wrote: I mean come on, 8000 HP and a proto blaster? How much help do you need? The word "crutch" has been thrown around a lot on these forums... Fixed. Lulz, ikr? But to the heavy fit thing, Sota is right. Heavies can't play the AR very well because they move too slow and their hit box is too big. People tend to get intimidated by a heavy suit and they run to get range, thinking it has an HMG, and the AR knocks them down. That's typically where the AR heavies kills come from. Also, the turn speed on a heavy with an AR is slower than an assault suit with an AR. That can either be beneficial or detrimental depending on how fast/slow you like your turn speed.
DRIX A-E Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 6	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:24:00 - [13] - Quote Let me guess you got killed by a fatsuit and a duvolle? Now crying on forums... Now you just gave all of us the idea to use such a combination. Nice job
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 325	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:24:00 - [14] - Quote I ran into a team running these loadouts. Ridiculous for sure. I'm not going to call out OP but when one of them can sit perfectly still for 2 minutes while I'm strafing and shooting him in the chest and still kill me. WTF!!!
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:28:00 - [15] - Quote Fargen Icehole wrote: IMO Why the hell would I want to use a Duvolle? For similar cost, and less CPU, I can use the MH82 HMG. It's much better than even a Duvolle at mowing down everybody within medium range or closer. Especially at mowing down multiple people. Ehhh, beats me. I'm still wondering why the hell I run into heavies with sniper rifles
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 325	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:31:00 - [16] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Fargen Icehole wrote: IMO Why the hell would I want to use a Duvolle? For similar cost, and less CPU, I can use the MH82 HMG. It's much better than even a Duvolle at mowing down everybody within medium range or closer. Especially at mowing down multiple people. Ehhh, beats me. I'm still wondering why the hell I run into heavies with sniper rifles Easier to survive counter snipes, or generally anyone trying to shoot them down from their sniper position.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:32:00 - [17] - Quote There's this one guy, Jack Boots or something, he makes it relatively effective, but it's not as useful as you'd think it would be surprisingly. The thing is, in close range, a Heavy can pray and spray away most people with an HMG, but with AR its nearly impossible. Also, ammo is scarce.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:34:00 - [18] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Fargen Icehole wrote: IMO Why the hell would I want to use a Duvolle? For similar cost, and less CPU, I can use the MH82 HMG. It's much better than even a Duvolle at mowing down everybody within medium range or closer. Especially at mowing down multiple people. Ehhh, beats me. I'm still wondering why the hell I run into heavies with sniper rifles Easier to survive counter snipes, or generally anyone trying to shoot them down from their sniper position. No, I literally meant run into, as in out in the open lol
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 254	Posted - 2013.02.19 23:36:00 - [19] - Quote Heavy ar isnt as good as Assault Ar because hitbox and lack of strafing ability. Heavies would have it hard to beat a good assault at midrange because the assault can strafe but the heavy cant.
The Dragon Ascendant Celtic Anarchy 101	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:38:00 - [20] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: There's this one guy, Jack Boots or something, he makes it relatively effective, but it's not as useful as you'd think it would be surprisingly. The thing is, in close range, a Heavy can pray and spray away most people with an HMG, but with AR its nearly impossible. Also, ammo is scarce. Don't even mention that name to me man, Jack Boost is a beast with a fatsuit and duvolle. Dude has killed me so many times. Yeah, I'd say it's damn effective.

KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:54:00 - [21] - Quote It's a good combination among others. Hvy+AR evades some of the HMGs (range+reload) weaknesses, but brings in some heavy suits own ones (strafe, running speed). Of course you get some bonuses as well.
Thumb Green Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:33:00 - [22] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: IRuby Heart wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Fargen Icehole wrote: IMO Why the hell would I want to use a Duvolle? For similar cost, and less CPU, I can use the MH82 HMG. It's much better than even a Duvolle at mowing down everybody within medium range or closer. Especially at mowing down multiple people. Ehhh, beats me. I'm still wondering why the hell I run into heavies with sniper rifles Easier to survive counter snipes, or generally anyone trying to shoot them down from their sniper position. No, I literally meant run into, as in out in the open lol Probably players used to how sniper rifles work in CoD. In that game they can run around and quick scope someone without thought. The cross hair doesn't even have to be on you or slightly leading you; it can be an inch or two behind you and still kill you. That's why snipers don't bother me in this game unless half my team is comprised of them.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:37:00 - [23] - Quote smh... Seriously, if it's so easy mode, why don't you use it? In fact, why haven't I seen this combo often since every gaming community tend to gravitate towards the easy mode / OP stuff. Why haven't I seen heavies using this combo go 100-0 yet? I mean it's suppose to be easy mode right? If tankers can go 40, 50+ then surely this suit set up can be easier than that. No?
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:40:00 - [24] - Quote KingBabar wrote: I mean come on, 1000 HP and a Duvolle? How much help do you need? The word "crutch" has been thrown around a lot on these forums... And that's right. Imho If you have a decent aim it might make this game a bit easier. If you'r good at aiming and you always keep in mind that you can't strafe properly it makes you a killing machine. Really.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:43:00 - [25] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: smh... Seriously, if it's so easy mode, why don't you use it? In fact, why haven't I seen this combo often since every gaming community tend to gravitate towards the easy mode / OP stuff. Why haven't I seen heavies using this combo go 100-0 yet? I mean it's suppose to be easy mode right? If tankers can go 40, 50+ then surely this suit set up can be easier than that. No? It's so easy that sometimes I cry myself to sleep All those poor little newberries...
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:43:00 - [26] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: smh... Seriously, if it's so easy mode, why don't you use it? In fact, why haven't I seen this combo often since every gaming community tend to gravitate towards the easy mode / OP stuff. Why haven't I seen heavies using this combo go 100-0 yet? I mean it's suppose to be easy mode right? If tankers can go 40, 50+ then surely this suit set up can be easier than that. No? Well, I don't think it's an "easy mode". You just die less, make a bit less kill and save some ISK.... It's just like the heavy with a sniper.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:49:00 - [27] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: smh... Seriously, if it's so easy mode, why don't you use it? In fact, why haven't I seen this combo often since every gaming community tend to gravitate towards the easy mode / OP stuff. Why haven't I seen heavies using this combo go 100-0 yet? I mean it's suppose to be easy mode right? If tankers can go 40, 50+ then surely this suit set up can be easier than that. No? Well, I don't think it's an "easy mode". You just die less, make a bit less kill and save some ISK.... It's just like the heavy with a sniper. How much less do you think you die using an AR? Have you tried this set up out or are you just speculating? Have you ever tried a heavy suit? If you're a heavy, you'll know using an AR is not some magical solution to die less my friend. Playing REALLY defensive maybe. Please, redline snipers in general die less.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:50:00 - [28] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: smh... Seriously, if it's so easy mode, why don't you use it? In fact, why haven't I seen this combo often since every gaming community tend to gravitate towards the easy mode / OP stuff. Why haven't I seen heavies using this combo go 100-0 yet? I mean it's suppose to be easy mode right? If tankers can go 40, 50+ then surely this suit set up can be easier than that. No? Well, I don't think it's an "easy mode". You just die less, make a bit less kill and save some ISK.... It's just like the heavy with a sniper. You're wrong. You don't die more or less with an AR. If anything - limiting yourself to a weapon that highlights your classes imperfections would mean you'd die more often trying to get into combat with players whose suit is designed specifically for the weapon almost. AR Heavies have my respect - they're walking dump trucks waiting for someone who knows what they're doing to come pwn them. Otherwise it's a pub stomp suit - so I wouldn't build an ego over it. Not that you are
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:54:00 - [29] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: smh... Seriously, if it's so easy mode, why don't you use it? In fact, why haven't I seen this combo often since every gaming community tend to gravitate towards the easy mode / OP stuff. Why haven't I seen heavies using this combo go 100-0 yet? I mean it's suppose to be easy mode right? If tankers can go 40, 50+ then surely this suit set up can be easier than that. No? It's so easy that sometimes I cry myself to sleep All those poor little newberries... Still comes down to how easy mode it really is. Maybe you weren't in closed beta when swarm launchers were OHK infantry with dumb fire...THAT was easy mode, and it was made clear by the amount of people using swarms against infantry. So I ask again, since it's THAT easy, where's all the people using it? Where's all the people getting 40+, 50+ with this combo?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:55:00 - [30] - Quote Assuming equal skill level: New Heavy >> New Assault Experienced Heavy < Experienced Assault Pro Heavy <<< Pro Assault Heavy suits are definitely beginner friendly, but they're a lot harder to use against more skilled opponents. Easy to use, hard to master. Proto heavy suits also suck... so yeah. Edit: That was sarcasm Lance, lol



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