DUST Search - lol this game.....

Ras Vin wrote:

yep, sorry guys, this is the truth. lets look at this game from an non eve-fanboy perceptive.

This is not an MMORPG. you can stop calling it that, there are no properties within this game that give you the right to call it an "MMORPG"

the player base is not Massive nor is the game itself, there is no open world, god even the maps arent open(( i cant remember the last time i played an FPS where you couldnt go inside a building.) there is you, in your "living quarters" where you press start, right, right, X. then wait until your match, then as soon as it does, you end up in some command center asking yourself how you got here. also, there is no PvE? this is an FPS with a skill tree. this game is sorta ripped off of Battlefield 2142 titan mode(Skrim). not a bad thing, considering the game remains my favorite FPS of all time.

but atleast in that game, your ANTI-ARMOR weapons actually were ANTI-ARMOR. let me get this straight, i can unload everything, all the rounds i have in my rocket launcher thing(12? plus the three in the chamber.),dieing about 5-6 times in the process(genius respawn locations. top notch) and, oh wait, nope, hes still going! did they even test the "anti armor fit" against a tank? well, maybe flux nades work on them...NOPE welcome to world of tanks! the only thing that does any noticeable damage to a tank? doesnt move, and turns slow as the big hand on a clock. and guess what, youre exposed and two shots from a tank your dead.

graphics: meh, nice, but could use some love. but why give us an avatar? they're all the same. atleast take the mask off and let us customize the face(eve) for the avatar and out of match purposes.

sound:assault gun fire sounds like youre tapping on one of those old school metal garbage lids.

Maps: im assuming they've only release some of the barren planet maps for this beta. atleast i hope.

movement: lol the LVC, this thing handles like the ground is lce. it is literally impossible to make it from your spawn point at start up, to any capture point without losing half your shield sliding, crashing, hill jumping, whatever into something. and the turrent? USELESS, you may as well eject from the car to shoot someone, atleast you can use the thing for some cover.
aiming is slow, if youve read this far, get a keyboard and mouse. even tho you can't change the keys, atleast youll be moving faster.

at this point ive gotten bored of typing about this game, so ill just end it with this,
this game is designed for you to buy AUR. at some point, you either buy the AUR or youre stuck back using the defaults. for every item in the market, they have an AUR equivalent which is usually better than the isk one or the same, the "Loot" you receive at the end of a match? guess what, useless, you wil not use it unless you have some serious SP in that area.

inb4: its still in beta, yes its still in beta, and what is beta in the gaming world mean? this is the version of the game before it releases. usually releasing three or four months after open beta announcement. the main reason why this game wont last(other than the unbalanced gameplay?) its an FPS. and much like every FPS before it, theres a big release, lots of playtime, then the next big FPS comes. anyways, see you in Crysis 3!

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Ras Vin Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:07:00 - [1] - Quote yep, sorry guys, this is the truth. lets look at this game from an non eve-fanboy perceptive. This is not an MMORPG. you can stop calling it that, there are no properties within this game that give you the right to call it an "MMORPG" the player base is not Massive nor is the game itself, there is no open world, god even the maps arent open(( i cant remember the last time i played an FPS where you couldnt go inside a building.) there is you, in your "living quarters" where you press start, right, right, X. then wait until your match, then as soon as it does, you end up in some command center asking yourself how you got here. also, there is no PvE? this is an FPS with a skill tree. this game is sorta ripped off of Battlefield 2142 titan mode(Skrim). not a bad thing, considering the game remains my favorite FPS of all time. but atleast in that game, your ANTI-ARMOR weapons actually were ANTI-ARMOR. let me get this straight, i can unload everything, all the rounds i have in my rocket launcher thing(12? plus the three in the chamber.),dieing about 5-6 times in the process(genius respawn locations. top notch) and, oh wait, nope, hes still going! did they even test the "anti armor fit" against a tank? well, maybe flux nades work on them...NOPE welcome to world of tanks! the only thing that does any noticeable damage to a tank? doesnt move, and turns slow as the big hand on a clock. and guess what, youre exposed and two shots from a tank your dead. graphics: meh, nice, but could use some love. but why give us an avatar? they're all the same. atleast take the mask off and let us customize the face(eve) for the avatar and out of match purposes. sound:assault gun fire sounds like youre tapping on one of those old school metal garbage lids. Maps: im assuming they've only release some of the barren planet maps for this beta. atleast i hope. movement: lol the LVC, this thing handles like the ground is lce. it is literally impossible to make it from your spawn point at start up, to any capture point without losing half your shield sliding, crashing, hill jumping, whatever into something. and the turrent? USELESS, you may as well eject from the car to shoot someone, atleast you can use the thing for some cover. aiming is slow, if youve read this far, get a keyboard and mouse. even tho you can't change the keys, atleast youll be moving faster. at this point ive gotten bored of typing about this game, so ill just end it with this, this game is designed for you to buy AUR. at some point, you either buy the AUR or youre stuck back using the defaults. for every item in the market, they have an AUR equivalent which is usually better than the isk one or the same, the "Loot" you receive at the end of a match? guess what, useless, you wil not use it unless you have some serious SP in that area. inb4: its still in beta, yes its still in beta, and what is beta in the gaming world mean? this is the version of the game before it releases. usually releasing three or four months after open beta announcement. the main reason why this game wont last(other than the unbalanced gameplay?) its an FPS. and much like every FPS before it, theres a big release, lots of playtime, then the next big FPS comes. anyways, see you in Crysis 3!
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 147	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:14:00 - [2] - Quote Someones a butt hurt troll Edit: also you couldn't kill a tank with aa/flux grenades Cu's there is 2 different kinds of tanks Armorial and shield Gotta use right thing at right time
Leovarian L Lavitz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 278	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:18:00 - [3] - Quote We'll have to squad up some time, OP, I'll give you a demonstration of how to actually handle a LAV.
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 34	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:18:00 - [4] - Quote Right now CCP is testing the core mechanics the fighting system to make sure they got it down before really expanding. Have you actually watched any of the CCP videos where they go into detail about what they plan to really do with this game? It will definitely feel like a massive game. It's just at the moment none of that stuff is present so it does feel like your normal every day FPS. Enjoy Crysis.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:20:00 - [5] - Quote TL;DR Cites Beta status Cites how eve online when it was in beta only had 90 stars, 2 races, 6 ships. 2 weapons and no meta. Today eve online has 9k systems 4 races with 5 sub races, 600+ ships, 15,000+ modules and plenty of meta. Suggests a not so bitter opener. Post Fowarding anyways to a community dev and reporting to move to feedback.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 147	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:20:00 - [6] - Quote One more thing... I bought aur and found it completely useless I prefer Isk gear by far So ur argument is invalid Mr. Trollsalot
SquaggaTCT Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:21:00 - [7] - Quote A little bit I agree with, there is a huge impression for us to purchase AUR, however once you've gotten to advanced gear there really is very little interest in purchasing AUR. I do agree with the fact that we are very constricted to merc quarters and tiny maps that all know very well, some a little too well. This is why I've started a thread in this section titled 'Promenades' it would be a simple and easy way for us to start playing this as an MMO. If you want our perception of New Eden to grow then support my thread
DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 85	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:23:00 - [8] - Quote At the risk of baiting yet more ignorance and receiving subsequent flames from other forum warriors... While I can't say for the future of Dust as an MMO, I can say it sounds like you had a run in with an upper-tier tank driver. The better tanks, the ones that actually require a good deal of SP to use, will not be felled by a cute little militia swarm launcher. There are two generalized versions of the HAVs currently. One is shield heavy, the other is more focused on armor. All are not created equal and some weapons will be more effective than others. Successfully popping a high level tank driver on your own is rather difficult. Knowing what weapons to use and actually using team work is the best way to be successful in this game. With that knowledge, if you choose to leave, then by all means do so. You are entitled to your opinion and may continue playing whatever games you prefer. Thank you for your feedback. I'm sure there are others on other forums who feel the same way you do and I invite you to discuss your dislike for Dust 514 there. :D Have a good one. All that from a non-Eve fanboy. I've never played Eve nor do I plan to. Its not my thing. This, however, is.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 334	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:26:00 - [9] - Quote I feel like I've read this thread 30 times already.... In each thread the OP ended up being exposed as a butthurt newberry that couldn't maintain a 0.5 KDR. Seriously, I've gotten bored of answering these threads seriously and no longer attempt to argue or point out the flaws in the post of the OP or convince them otherwise. If you don't like the game, there are others out there that may suit your criteria.
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:29:00 - [10] - Quote Yes the game does need a lot of work still. But as to vehicle handling and the starter anti armor fitting you get out of the box: Everything is customizable. As you would expect, everything that you start with is fairly basic and allows you to build up and work for improved versions. The swarm launcher needs an overhaul, but if you invest as much ISK and sp into anti armor as people are investing into their tanks you will see it is very deadly. Basically a tank takes a crew of 3 and it often only takes 1 or 2 anti vehicle guys to take down a tank. The starter LAVs are fairly crap but they are also free. When you start modifying them you can get some fittings that handle really well. I would agree that the sound design is flimsy and a lot of the weapon sounds are rubbery and toy like.

Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:42:00 - [11] - Quote They will never stop coding for this game. When it is out of beta, it will probably still feel like it is a beta, but stick around because things will always be getting updated, added too, expanded... It isn't a retail store game that you can go out and buy a finished product that will never be expanded upon... In time it will feel like a complete game, but even then they will still be coding for what ever new free expansion. I would imagine many want to play the game that ccp has in mind, but it will take time. Probably, alot of time, but you can take part in the MANY specific threads about certain issues because they do read the forums. The AV vs Tank is a never ending thread...
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 675	Posted - 2013.02.18 07:26:00 - [12] - Quote Ras Vin wrote: yep, sorry guys, this is the truth. lets look at this game from an non eve-fanboy perceptive. This is not an MMORPG. you can stop calling it that, there are no properties within this game that give you the right to call it an "MMORPG" the player base is not Massive nor is the game itself, there is no open world, god even the maps arent open(( i cant remember the last time i played an FPS where you couldnt go inside a building.) there is you, in your "living quarters" where you press start, right, right, X. then wait until your match, then as soon as it does, you end up in some command center asking yourself how you got here. also, there is no PvE? this is an FPS with a skill tree. this game is sorta ripped off of Battlefield 2142 titan mode(Skrim). not a bad thing, considering the game remains my favorite FPS of all time. but atleast in that game, your ANTI-ARMOR weapons actually were ANTI-ARMOR. let me get this straight, i can unload everything, all the rounds i have in my rocket launcher thing(12? plus the three in the chamber.),dieing about 5-6 times in the process(genius respawn locations. top notch) and, oh wait, nope, hes still going! did they even test the "anti armor fit" against a tank? well, maybe flux nades work on them...NOPE welcome to world of tanks! the only thing that does any noticeable damage to a tank? doesnt move, and turns slow as the big hand on a clock. and guess what, youre exposed and two shots from a tank your dead. graphics: meh, nice, but could use some love. but why give us an avatar? they're all the same. atleast take the mask off and let us customize the face(eve) for the avatar and out of match purposes. sound:assault gun fire sounds like youre tapping on one of those old school metal garbage lids. Maps: im assuming they've only release some of the barren planet maps for this beta. atleast i hope. movement: lol the LVC, this thing handles like the ground is lce. it is literally impossible to make it from your spawn point at start up, to any capture point without losing half your shield sliding, crashing, hill jumping, whatever into something. and the turrent? USELESS, you may as well eject from the car to shoot someone, atleast you can use the thing for some cover. aiming is slow, if youve read this far, get a keyboard and mouse. even tho you can't change the keys, atleast youll be moving faster. at this point ive gotten bored of typing about this game, so ill just end it with this, this game is designed for you to buy AUR. at some point, you either buy the AUR or youre stuck back using the defaults. for every item in the market, they have an AUR equivalent which is usually better than the isk one or the same, the "Loot" you receive at the end of a match? guess what, useless, you wil not use it unless you have some serious SP in that area. inb4: its still in beta, yes its still in beta, and what is beta in the gaming world mean? this is the version of the game before it releases. usually releasing three or four months after open beta announcement. the main reason why this game wont last(other than the unbalanced gameplay?) its an FPS. and much like every FPS before it, theres a big release, lots of playtime, then the next big FPS comes. anyways, see you in Crysis 3! Well hello there newberry. First off, when dust no longer says 'beta, work in progress' at the top of the screen, only THEN can you sit there and criticize. Second, it may seem like a 2142 'rip off' to you but that is because a % of ccp is made up of ex dice employees. Third, your definition of a beta is called a DEMO!, look at the recent crysis 3 'beta', how long did that last?........two weeks, that is not a beta, that is a demo. Same goes for the bf3 'beta', a demo with beta label. THIS is a beta in every sense of the word. Bugs, glitches, framerate issues etc etc etc etc. Fourth, the player base is bigger than you think. Just because it currently has a small player COUNT in a map does not mean small player base. Fifth, dust will expand (like eve), if you can't see that then you're a fool. Sixth, when observed from a Perspective of how many people will be fighting on various districts on many planets at the same time in one universe........and the impact it will have on new eden.......then you can see where the 'mmofps' comes into play. But don't take our word for it, because you know everything right? That's why you PLAY games instead of DEVELOPING games, because you know everything about how to build a game right? Give me a break kid!!
Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 242	Posted - 2013.02.18 07:39:00 - [13] - Quote OP you make excellent points. Unfortunately many of these people will continue to look at this game from an EVE-fanboy prospective and continue trying to convince themselves and others into believing that everything you've claimed is either wrong or irrelevant.
Eris Ernaga Super Smash Bros Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety 26	Posted - 2013.02.18 07:47:00 - [14] - Quote I lol'd so hard at this i found your anger amazingly funny, you really need to compare the beta of something like world at war to the full version of world at war. The beta only had 3 maps and very limited content the full game had many maps and full content why would you treat dust any differently your acting like the beta is the full game. There is still room for more content, tweaks, and all the content we will get in the full release of the game plus newer content in the future. Dust is one of the only games that updates without making you have to buy a new version plus it is free you are crying about AUR on a free game. No they do not make you buy AUR that is a ridiculous claim and at least you are not paying 15 dollars for 4 extra maps like in call of duty's and 60 for the actual game. Good bye
Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 47	Posted - 2013.02.18 09:20:00 - [15] - Quote The reason it aint an MMOPG yet is because it'#s a BETA to test out the combat system sigh when will people realise that for facks sake lol.
Nidhogg Valkyrian Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.02.18 09:28:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TL;DR Cites Beta status Cites how eve online when it was in beta only had 90 stars, 2 races, 6 ships. 2 weapons and no meta. Today eve online has 9k systems 4 races with 5 sub races, 600+ ships, 15,000+ modules and plenty of meta. Suggests a not so bitter opener. Post Fowarding anyways to a community dev and reporting to move to feedback. this pretty much says it all.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 168	Posted - 2013.02.18 12:54:00 - [17] - Quote Well, some more QQ from a small bundle of useless Kitten Squeezings. Wow, what will some random idiot think of next? Nothing new that is for damned certain.
Annabandak Mercery Anunnaku Industrial Corp. 3	Posted - 2013.02.18 13:52:00 - [18] - Quote Hey Ras Vin , can i haz your stuff and ----------> there is the door
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.02.20 06:58:00 - [19] - Quote Ras Vin wrote: yep, sorry guys, this is the truth. lets look at this game from an non eve-fanboy perceptive. This is not an MMORPG. you can stop calling it that, there are no properties within this game that give you the right to call it an "MMORPG" the player base is not Massive nor is the game itself, there is no open world, god even the maps arent open(( i cant remember the last time i played an FPS where you couldnt go inside a building.) there is you, in your "living quarters" where you press start, right, right, X. then wait until your match, then as soon as it does, you end up in some command center asking yourself how you got here. also, there is no PvE? this is an FPS with a skill tree. this game is sorta ripped off of Battlefield 2142 titan mode(Skrim). not a bad thing, considering the game remains my favorite FPS of all time. but atleast in that game, your ANTI-ARMOR weapons actually were ANTI-ARMOR. let me get this straight, i can unload everything, all the rounds i have in my rocket launcher thing(12? plus the three in the chamber.),dieing about 5-6 times in the process(genius respawn locations. top notch) and, oh wait, nope, hes still going! did they even test the "anti armor fit" against a tank? well, maybe flux nades work on them...NOPE welcome to world of tanks! the only thing that does any noticeable damage to a tank? doesnt move, and turns slow as the big hand on a clock. and guess what, youre exposed and two shots from a tank your dead. graphics: meh, nice, but could use some love. but why give us an avatar? they're all the same. atleast take the mask off and let us customize the face(eve) for the avatar and out of match purposes. sound:assault gun fire sounds like youre tapping on one of those old school metal garbage lids. Maps: im assuming they've only release some of the barren planet maps for this beta. atleast i hope. movement: lol the LVC, this thing handles like the ground is lce. it is literally impossible to make it from your spawn point at start up, to any capture point without losing half your shield sliding, crashing, hill jumping, whatever into something. and the turrent? USELESS, you may as well eject from the car to shoot someone, atleast you can use the thing for some cover. aiming is slow, if youve read this far, get a keyboard and mouse. even tho you can't change the keys, atleast youll be moving faster. at this point ive gotten bored of typing about this game, so ill just end it with this, this game is designed for you to buy AUR. at some point, you either buy the AUR or youre stuck back using the defaults. for every item in the market, they have an AUR equivalent which is usually better than the isk one or the same, the "Loot" you receive at the end of a match? guess what, useless, you wil not use it unless you have some serious SP in that area. inb4: its still in beta, yes its still in beta, and what is beta in the gaming world mean? this is the version of the game before it releases. usually releasing three or four months after open beta announcement. the main reason why this game wont last(other than the unbalanced gameplay?) its an FPS. and much like every FPS before it, theres a big release, lots of playtime, then the next big FPS comes. anyways, see you in Crysis 3! this is my post, deleted that toon cause of messing up the skills learned early, i retrace what i said about the LVC, had no idea you train for handling, also retrace the AUR statement, upon getting alittle better and understanding how fitting works(using militia gear sometimes, etc.) there are plenty of equipment options in the militia market, though i still think tanks in 2s 3s 4s is OP, it is possible to take down ONE. but i do still believe assault gun fire sounds like tapping on a garbage can.


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