DUST Search - Holy Crap batman, Hatemail galore!

Malinche La Llorona wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

I make no assumptions about the future and wish you all the best of luck finding games inside dust and out that make you happy.

And Beld, this is a real apology to you. I know I took this conversation out of line and probably made you feel very insulted and defensive in Black Jackals thread. I did it with a point in mind and I see now to you the point was lost behind my bad intentions. If I had a better way with words I admit I probably wouldn't of needed to do go there just to prove a point. So even if you do not accept my apology I hope you understand I have no ill will towards you and am sorry our views clashed as hard as it did.

That goes for you too Mallinche from earlier. I know it's the internet and things get weird and lost in translation. I don't advocate people being demeaning AT ALL.

Thanks for that. I agree that things get lost in translation, particularly when egos take over. I hope you can respect that my goal hasn't been to attack you personally. You're probably an alright dude.

Of course, I still plan on rolling over your battered carcass with my Madrugar.

And sorry about your cat.


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SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 21:59:00 - [1] - Quote Over defending someones rights to speak openly I've received many hate mail on my actual PSN account rather then my in game account. 5 people. I won't give out names - it's not important. Who you are - is irrelevant. What I find sickening is how far your comments go and the lack of reading compression that goes with it as I've already made comment on everything these hate mails have said in the racist thread. What's worse - you're now judging me without understanding anything at all. You people all make me sick. I don't post around here so people can like me or give half a flying squirrel about me. I post because It's my damn right to say whatever the hell I want. Just like Venom has, just like all of you do. Do you really think I'd join Impswarms if I wanted everyone to be happy with me? Lots of corps sent me mail - I joined the one whose the most open minded about personalities and would let me enjoy the forums on my own terms while still getting all the meta I enjoy around here so much. I wanted to have FUN. Do you really think my anime loving butt is going to cry just because you sent me mail? What are you people trying to get at? Why hide behind an alt if you're trying to make a point to me? What's to be afraid of? Do you see me hiding my opinions behind an alt when I defended Venom? I believe in what I say - I'm sorry you people don't. DUST514 community is great one - but this sort of crap isn't demeaning towards me or Venom. You're demeaning yourselves the way you claims a SINGLE thread did to General Discussions. We aren't a cult and we aren't a religion. We're a gaming community, there's a ton of personalities here. If you got a problem with one cause it's too eccentric - don't ******* click on his thread. Don't blame me for my views when you're at fault for listening to stupid to begin with. Got an opinion on the community status? Are things going too far? Do you believe the Imperfects troll too much? If so, why? Where? Why do you think they're trolling? Got an opinion let me hear it cause I just shoved my down everyones throats.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 22:04:00 - [2] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Well imho you really shouldnt have defended venom because that crap was just plain offensive and if it had been my corp mate you best believe he would have been kicked from corp asap However I don't think you should get hate mail for it either as you didnt post the original thing I guess I'll state it again because you mentioned it. I didn't find this thread funny either, I face racism everyday in south texas just because of my name and my white skin Shocking, I know and the choices I've made that don't follow the 'proper' path they believe in down here. But everyone ignored 1/3 of what he said and concentrated on the bad. So I put light on where people only found shadows. So in return I got tons of hate mail.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 22:10:00 - [3] - Quote Lucky indeed -.- Well I've said my part and made it public to discuss. I don't even know 4 of the 5 who sent those messages at me - but if they cared enough to track my PSN down they'll pop up in the thread sooner or later. Also this day blows for me - had to put my cat down. :'(
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 22:17:00 - [4] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Well imho you really shouldnt have defended venom because that crap was just plain offensive and if it had been my corp mate you best believe he would have been kicked from corp asap However I don't think you should get hate mail for it either as you didnt post the original thing I guess I'll state it again because you mentioned it. I didn't find this thread funny either, I face racism everyday in south texas just because of my name and my white skin Shocking, I know and the choices I've made that don't follow the 'proper' path they believe in down here. But everyone ignored 1/3 of what he said and concentrated on the bad. So I put light on where people only found shadows. So in return I got tons of hate mail. i know what you did as i read the thread... I dont think you should have gotten hate mail I also don't think any light needed to be shed... the shadows were dark enough to blot out the good dude Im not saying what you did was wrong but if it were me how i would have reacted would have been 100% different And I respect you for that.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 22:18:00 - [5] - Quote Jonny RIC0 wrote: Ah, I remember. Was he the dumb-ass who said "let's all have a laugh at racism" or something similar? Why is this guy making more threads about that? If he defended a racist he deserves hate mail. Simple. ^ This is the problem I'm facing apparently. Blinded idiots who justify half facts. I didn't defend racism. I defended his right to post and get banned for it and pointed out he didn't want to offend anyone. I even pointed out he'd get removed from corp if CCP took such actions against him and people STILL sent me hate mail.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 22:31:00 - [6] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Damn, Sota! I'm gone for a week, or two (maybe three, I forget) and all hell breaks loose. Yo' what did you do? Ha-ha-ha. Nonetheless not too sure as to what you did, other then it refers to the, Venom thread, and all of the nonesensical hate the ensued there from both sides. Anyway to derail this bad boy, how ya' been, buddy? I didn't do much, just some e-drama I'm settling to get out of the way. I enjoy being around here and want this aired out asap. The last message I got less then an hour ago broke a straw in me and I made this thread. Life's been very good - it's just today is horrible. My cat's been sick for a while - but very loving. So now that's it's time to part forever my minds a bit jumbled. She was my first cat. Q.Q But yea - other then that everythings been pretty awesome. Besides my brothers now x-girlfriend robbing me $450 a week ago which put me in the red again this month. But who needs money when you have happiness? Sleepy Zan wrote: Sota don't worry about it, some people love to hate and will find any reason to. I forgot to ask them if my Imp tag had anything to do with them hunting my psn down to sending me "I think your a fagz who loves racism" messages zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Jonny RIC0 wrote: Ah, I remember. Was he the dumb-ass who said "let's all have a laugh at racism" or something similar? Why is this guy making more threads about that? If he defended a racist he deserves hate mail. Simple. thing is he didn't REALLY defend the racism part he just kinda played it off... I think he tried to help his corp mate which is admirable but his intentions were kinda skewed Its not his fault his corp mate is an idiot and probably racist (says it was joke) but yea people dont give sota a hard time about this very much im sure a lot of you would have defended ur friends too Thanks for the understanding! ^_^
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 22:33:00 - [7] - Quote undeadsoldier90 wrote: Well sota I have to say that what venom did was wrong but it was HIS choice. I had no feelings either way since I dont really care what a fake space man has to say about racism. Should you get hate mail? No prob not. Should venom be banned? Yes prob. Will the community give 2 ***** in a week? No prob not. Everyone who plays video games online should have thick skin, it should say so next to the rating on the box. So relax shoot some noobs and enjoy this game instead of treating it like its real life. Hope to woop your ass tonight in some ambush :D :D I remember our last match. You're a deadly man, I look forward to seeing you some more in game.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 22:42:00 - [8] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Damn, Sota, I am sorry to hear about all of this. From you getting robbed, to the drama, and especially about your "first" cat being laid to rest. I hope it all works out though. I am sorry to hear about this all seriously, and am sorry you are taking so much heat. I read the thread (after it was locked). Seems like nonesensical BS all around in my opinion from both the community and, Venom. I have a question though if you do not mind my asking since you two are in the same corporation together; is that, Venom, from Warhawk, and MAG? If so I know who that is then, and that will not be the last this community hears of him. Though I doubt he'd remember me from either MAG, or Warhawk. Other then that I was part of WAR!. Ha-ha. I miss getting hate mail. Yup, that's him. And thanks for your concern, I appreciate the thoughts and goodwill. How's life for you btw? Hope you're keeping positive!
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 23:02:00 - [9] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Ah I am alright. Trying to be less pessimistic. Trying. So that is the same, Venom?! Oh lord! Ha-ha. This place just got a whole lot more interesting then. I cannot believe he showed up here, but then again I am not too surprised. Oddly enough. Anyway I derailed your thread (somewhat), and I apologise for that, and everything going on at the moment. I hope your month gets better though, Sota, and the next month even better for you yet. Besides next month is St. Particks day! Ha-ha. I'll see you on PSN I am sure. I have to say though miss having you in Zion. Doubt I am alone there. Miss all of the youtube links we threw around too on AMVs. XD I really miss the AMV linking and anime talk lol It was nice that I could jump into that chat and there'd always be someone willing to talk about random things. And linking all those cool AMV's between each other was pretty sweet. I'll remember them as good times undeadsoldier90 wrote: Thanks sota! Btw I couldnt believe I got you on the pipeline while you were trying to get maples tank that was a good match. lol, when I noticed maples was UnReal and with a squad I knew we were in for a tough match. Saw you had another guy whose been making his appearance around here and you and we decided we'd try to play you guys with some tactics. it was loads of fun! Maples discovered our spawn point and locked it down - so we kept coming up with new plans to pin him down while keeping fire off our AV. I definitely would love to see more matches like that one. Both maple and Nik sent me GG's after it. It really heightened my opinion of your corp which was already pretty high to begin with. Keep it up out there!
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.17 23:20:00 - [10] - Quote The Black Art wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: the lack of reading compression Not sure why I laughed, but I did. lol! I'll find that line and edit it later.

SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 01:10:00 - [11] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: The Black Art wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: the lack of reading compression Not sure why I laughed, but I did. lol! I'll find that line and edit it later. hahaha your supposed to say you are testing our reading comprehension. I should of thought of that earlier! And thank you for the kind words. I'm humbled and honored by such remarks on my persons.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 01:13:00 - [12] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: So, THE reasn you joined IMPswarm because they allow their members to say what they feel? :) not THE reason, but it is a good part of my decision. The other part would be I mingle with them the most out of any corp I suppose. There's a level of trust between us. Internal Error > Imps though :)
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 01:19:00 - [13] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: So, THE reasn you joined IMPswarm because they allow their members to say what they feel? :) not THE reason, but it is a good part of my decision. The other part would be I mingle with them the most out of any corp I suppose. There's a level of trust between us. Internal Error > Imps though :) I've never seen shackles on Zion members on the forum....maybe private, I don't know. But I don't see a difference in your trolling now than before when you were Zion. I've always kept my trolling in style. I now have the option to let loose more. Before I had to jump onto an alt if I wanted to get serious and just cause tears. Besides, ZionTCD banned me, so staying with them wasn't an option. ^_^ Edit: ZionTCD does have rules that say if you troll you get banned.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 01:22:00 - [14] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: They banned you? Was it because you were questioning the leadership? Nope, ZionTCD allows such things. Just don't make any emos cry inside the corp - you get banned for that. EDIT: To be fair they gave me warnings to stop and I instead justified why he deserved it - so they removed me.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 02:14:00 - [15] - Quote Belzeebub Santana wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: So you defend a person who spouts racist crap on the forum under the guise of freedom of speech and then when some other people decide to use their freedom of speech to tell you what they think you've got a problem with it? to reuse a term from one of the people who thinks racism and homophobia is funny, HTFU. I'm sorry you are going through a rough patch in your life (SoTa) but this ^. You are known for trolling and most times the internet is anonymous but in this particular case people can find your psn and spam it if they so feel. I wouldn't say it is right or okay but once you put yourself out there publicly, and people disagree with what you said, you can't blame anyone but yourself. People will react how they react and it is your decision to take what they said to heart or to blow it off. I'm sorry that the individuals that contacted you went so low that you needed to post this, but remember your words do have meaning and if you want to be seen as a troll or whatever a person is called that brings the community together is all up to you. You reap what you sow. Very true.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 02:48:00 - [16] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Your grasping at straws now buddy :D Personally I don't want jackel to win a seat on the CSM, its less time he can devote to running the corporation. I actually think he's a better candidate then most. His willingness to sit down and discuss and argue his point for weeks now in that thread shows he's got some good resolve for the position. And come on Beld - give me a break here! You must know by now I'm not in favor of racism!
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:35:00 - [17] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Good use of coercion sota pop you've proved your point, you'd rather attack a third party then apologize. Apologize? ?? What? If I offended you by quoting you I'm very very sorry. Ops I did it again! Bad habit I guess?
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 05:55:00 - [18] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Apologize for defending a racist. Venom should apologize as well considering he started this mess and dragged you all into the mud. And Big Miku needs to as well for posting that ridiculous hate story, claim satire all you want posting something that refers to AIDS as the gay plague is disgusting and offensive. I am sorry you're offended that I defended someones right to be who they want on the forums. I am very very very sorry.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 07:22:00 - [19] - Quote I make no assumptions about the future and wish you all the best of luck finding games inside dust and out that make you happy. And Beld, this is a real apology to you. I know I took this conversation out of line and probably made you feel very insulted and defensive in Black Jackals thread. I did it with a point in mind and I see now to you the point was lost behind my bad intentions. If I had a better way with words I admit I probably wouldn't of needed to do go there just to prove a point. So even if you do not accept my apology I hope you understand I have no ill will towards you and am sorry our views clashed as hard as it did. That goes for you too Mallinche from earlier. I know it's the internet and things get weird and lost in translation. I don't advocate people being demeaning AT ALL.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.18 07:37:00 - [20] - Quote Malinche La Llorona wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: I make no assumptions about the future and wish you all the best of luck finding games inside dust and out that make you happy. And Beld, this is a real apology to you. I know I took this conversation out of line and probably made you feel very insulted and defensive in Black Jackals thread. I did it with a point in mind and I see now to you the point was lost behind my bad intentions. If I had a better way with words I admit I probably wouldn't of needed to do go there just to prove a point. So even if you do not accept my apology I hope you understand I have no ill will towards you and am sorry our views clashed as hard as it did. That goes for you too Mallinche from earlier. I know it's the internet and things get weird and lost in translation. I don't advocate people being demeaning AT ALL. Thanks for that. I agree that things get lost in translation, particularly when egos take over. I hope you can respect that my goal hasn't been to attack you personally. You're probably an alright dude. Of course, I still plan on rolling over your battered carcass with my Madrugar. And sorry about your cat. Damn - you're a tanker, should of never apologized!! jk I respected everyone who thought they were fighting against racism - it's a very noble and good cause to fight for. I found it slightly uplifting to see so many jump down his throat over it too, shows there's a lot of people around here willing to fight right away against something they see as wrong. It's just this one time it wasn't what it looked like and I failed to express that properly for him. If I was a PR right now I'd be resigning my position. And thanks for your concern about my cat. Today was rough on many levels, but none more so then that.