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Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:03:00 - [1] - Quote Since we are getting new suits, how about a skill reset so we can respec, CCP?
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:06:00 - [2] - Quote Yes so we can respend them. I guess I should have said skill refund.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:41:00 - [3] - Quote gbghg wrote: no because then i would have to put 2mil sp back into where they were, i like my current sp placement and am patient enough to wait to specialise into other suits It would only take a few minutes. It seems a bit ridiculous to be against this because you will be slightly inconvenienced. Reav Hannari wrote: This isn't some lame run and gun. It's about making a commitment. At least you have the option to change direction since the only classes are those defined by the skills you've trained and the suit you are wearing at that very moment. Being able to respend so I can better specialize doesn't cheapen my gaming experience. A skill refund would allow players to not feel frustrated or left out and isn't even something new to Eve since CCP has done it for Capsuleers. Maken Tosch wrote: For god sake people, do a search of the forums. The SEARCH function is there for a reason. And I know this might be hard for you wrap your head around, but I am talking a skill refund, not a hard reset.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:52:00 - [4] - Quote [quote=Maken Tosch] Quote: That was YEARS ago. So we agree. They've done it before so they can do it again. I think a lot of people oppose this because it would allow a lot of the new players to undo their mistakes and catch up to the more hardcore players. The way the game is set up right now it isn't very user friendly and frankly that's not good. I think a refund would help casuals even the playing field and make the game all around more enjoyable.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:59:00 - [5] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I support the idea of a respec when some new (and this major) comes out. I need all the SP I can get to put into being a full time pilot. NO. Terrible idea. I would rather see to it that the entire game economy is burned to the grown like what happened to Jita back in 2012 then to see a respec happen. I'm not alone in that opinion. Why? It makes little sense, this is still beta.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 18:18:00 - [6] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Loss Tovas wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I support the idea of a respec when some new (and this major) comes out. I need all the SP I can get to put into being a full time pilot. NO. Terrible idea. I would rather see to it that the entire game economy is burned to the grown like what happened to Jita back in 2012 then to see a respec happen. I'm not alone in that opinion. Why? It makes little sense, this is still beta. Eve Online is still beta as well if you think about it. You are dodging the question. The other thing to think about is again, this isn't eve. While it exists in the same universe, it can not function the same way. Skill refunds so people can repsec allow casuals to keep up by not being penalized for not having the time to grind.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 18:27:00 - [7] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Allowing casuals to respec is a stronger argument? CCP hasn't been pushing the single shard, actions have consequences theme for DUST less than they have for EVE? A stronger argument against what? No one has offered a counter argument. Actions have consequences, yeah I get that. But how can we be beta testing when basically I am being told that I shouldn't have specced the Scout suit and have to live with my choices even though the Amarr variant was available. I honestly believe that the only reason people oppose a refund is because then they'd actually have to get better at their gun game instead of just harvesting noobs by the truck full.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 18:52:00 - [8] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: I read your argument of "serving the casuals" being stronger than "EVE hasn't really left beta." I don't see either one as supporting the discussion here. CCP's idea of beta is different than most other game companies, especially now that we are live on Tranquility. That isn't my argument at all.... Dust 514 is still beta, the goal here is testing. This is a game not reality and not a simulation. Quote: I don't see how not allowing respecs allows for harvesting noobs by the truck full. Try playing with some and training them. Spend time in your local chat and see for yourself. There are players that have no idea what is going and spending their skills on what they think is important only to find that they made mistakes.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 18:57:00 - [9] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Do you find it strange that I want to hinder myself like this? To choose to live with the mistakes of my past because my past has defined me and made me who I am? I made the choice of being a Nova Knifer only and I am glad to live with that choice even though I knew for a fact that there are better options out there. You're probably wondering "Maken, what if your profession is a bust?" Well then, that is my problem. Not yours. Stay out of it. Let me live with my permanent consequences so that my choices are meaningful. This isn't real life this is a video game. I'd rather have fun not worry about someones little libertarian wet dream. Honestly, if you like what Eve has to offer go play Spread-Sheets In Space.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 19:05:00 - [10] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: If you want Dust to be dragged down to the level of scubs who just want everything handed to them, you are playing the wrong game. CCP is the kind of company (not unlike others) that is willing to put their players through the process of living their choices for the rest of their lives even if those choices turned out to be bad choices. Awe, you don't like that. Too frakking bad. Casuals make games. Not hardcore players. A balance has to be struck. I get that you want to force others to play the game the way you want them to play it, that's a pretty common thread amongst gamers. Allowing a casual to chase flavor of the month doesn't impact anyone but allows the casual to enjoy himself. If we were talking release with everything available instead of trickling in and matches that put militia gear with prototype suits sure, maybe I would agree. But right now, how it is, and for what the casuals are needed for. I disagree no matter how smug you are.

Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 19:14:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I'm not expecting you to agree with me. You answered exactly how I expected you would answer. Have a good day sir. If you decide to quit playing Dust, no one will miss you. 678 kills huh? For a second there I thought you actually played the game. I understand why you fear a respec now.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 19:20:00 - [12] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Oh wow, since when does my KDR matter? Didn't say anything about your KDR. Some needs to get better at reading comprehension.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 19:34:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: What was this then? Pointing out my limited amount of kills (which I don't give a rat's ass about) in this fashion pretty much implies that you think I'm scared about having my KDR negatively affected. Ask everyone around here if I care about my KDR and they will all tell you that the only thing I care about is stabbing players in the face or in the back. You fail at best. It was a comment about how much you play. Not a comment about how much you suck at playing. That's evident by your membership in PRO not your KDR and Warpoint count.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 19:40:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I play a lot, dude. I just like using a knife which limits my use. Even if I do pick up a gun, I often find myself carefully picking targets rather than farming kills in a tank like Bad Furry. Again, the number of kills don't matter. I also play support roles. Your measly 86k warpoints don't really suggest that.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2013.02.17 20:05:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: What the hell are you trying to do? Belittle me? Humiliate me? Good luck with that. I'm not the kind of person who cares about that. I am pointing out that all your quips about me quitting, failing, or whatever keyboard-ninja nonsense you have to come up with is meaningless and that your attempt to paint me as the kind of player you need me to be to validate your point will only work on the others around here who won't understand what I am talking about in the first place or don't know me. I don't have to humiliate you, battle you, I don't have to look at your stats to know you're a scrub. I brought them up to illustrate that you talk a big talk, just like your corp and just like your corp, you can't back it up. I felt that was important because normally when a person goes out of their way to have me grief them if I see them on the field, it is normally because they want the challenge not because the forum is the only place they can look cool. You started in here by linking to a comment you made in another thread. Then you went on to cry and cry about how much my idea was terrible without offering another point. When I pointed out you were dodging you finally responded and continued to ignore what I was saying about casuals and the kind of impact they need to have while crying FAILURE and NO ONE WILL MISS YOU!!!! I know what's going on here. Just thought I'd give PRO a chance to not be full of complete jokes.

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