Are you gonna post EVERY time you lose?


Ya'know sometimes it is YOUR fualt

Do you realize that some maps are unbalance ? depending on which side of the map you start the battle, you team is in a disadvantage from the beginning. What you call "noobs", may be people that knows this, and they don't want to waste ISK in a lost battle. Hell.... i starting to do that my self, and i only been playing for just over 2 weeks.

Well it's a BETA. ANY game will have a period when people don't have a clue what they are doing. We have all seen it. First everyone is running around like crazy and shooting into thin air and so on. Then after a while they learn the maps, the controls and they pretty much start to get the hang of it.

Of course if you are so good...then shouldn't you be getting insane amount of points from kills? Oh wait...

Expect random pub matches to be full of ppl that seem to have their own agenda. I maybe one of them, but if I notice the squad leader is marking objectives, then I'll spend more time going after that rather than other things. Not much can be said about the skill of a person. It's a learning process that everyone has to do. Some never learn, like me, i've just adapted and figured it into a cheap fit.

A better matchmaker would be really nice, but I still don't think we have the player count to do anything complex. I don't want to wait 20 minutes for a match to start or have matches start without a full team. And who knows, maybe there is a really cool matchmaker algorithm, but since there isnt a huge number of players online, we rarely get to see it.

ur an idiot and obviously a noob i have been playing since early beta. And that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my entire life give up because your positioned one side of the map thats something someone mentally ******** would say. Maps are not unbalanced ur dumb for saying that hope you get some actual skill soon

What is this a MOBA game?

Training Simulator 500 - 1 mill points
Tier 1 - 1.01 - 2 mill points
Tier 2 - 2.01 - 3 mill points
Tier 3 - 3.01 - 4 mill points
etc... etc...

Do you realize that some maps are unbalance ? depending on which side of the map you start the battle, you team is in a disadvantage from the beginning. What you call "noobs", may be people that knows this, and they don't want to waste ISK in a lost battle. Hell.... i starting to do that my self, and i only been playing for just over 2 weeks.

I like how your thinking, but I would prefer it based on the meta level of the gear you're using. We all get to choose our "favorite" Dropsuit in the fitting screen, and while this does allow us to choose how we appear to other players in the Warbarge, it could also help with match making.

So if the suit you've "favorited" has an average meta level of say, 3, then you would only be placed in matches with people who have the ability to run the same gear. This would be based on the average meta level of you gear, and not on the individual peices. You could also palce a restriction that says that players can't run higher level gear during that match. A player should always be allowed to run lower gear if they choose, but they can't come into a meta level 0 match (brand new players most likely), with all level 5 gear.

So you could have it Tier this way:

Tier 1: Meta Level 0.0-0.9
Tier 2: Meta Level 1.0-1.9
Tier 3: Meta Level 2.0-2.9
Tier 4: Meta Level 3.0-3.9
Tier 5: Meta Level 4.0-4.9
Tier 6: Meta Level 5

So players might have the skill level to advance to the next Tier, but might still have to wait while they grind the ISK to purchase the higher weapons and equipment neccessary to challenge the higher Tier players

[I feel this would not quite work because while dust is about skill it is also about game experience a player advances his skills in a first person shoot through practice making it so that he can take out someone a better suit. What if this experienced player simply equips low level grade suits to get in lower meta tiers. For example he deletes all his expensive suits and equips only a standard suit so he can own noobs. The sp system is something players can't cheat they are in fixed matches and squads get an average so its pretty fair. But thank you for actually helping this idea grow and not posting trolling comments.

The reason I went with Meta Level is exactly that. Let me explain. Yes you will have players that will run lower level suits and go pubstomping. Griefers are allowed in the EVE universe, and this would just be Dust's version of that. Secondly it prevents higher level players from coming in and helping newer players out. Corps like Dust University, who is exist almost solely to help out new and inexperienced players would no longer be able to offer their seveices as they would be prevented from entering matches with their "students". Corp Recruiters, who are always on the look out for fresh blood, wouldn't be able to check out the in coming player base.

Basing it SP limits players, and puts the entire system in the hands of an AI. Basing it on Meta Level puts the control in the hands of players, where it should be.

If I have a friend who wants to play Dust and joins right now, using your system, I wouldn't be able to enter matches with him, show him the ropes or really answer any questions he might have during a match. That kind of silence will make the learning curve of this game even more frustrating to newer players. Basing it on Meta Levels allows the helpful players we currently have to keep doing what they're doing, and keeps the more experienced Mercs (who don't care about newberries) fighting players of their own caliber. Which is where they want to be anyway.

ur an idiot and obviously a noob i have been playing since early beta. And that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my entire life give up because your positioned one side of the map thats something someone mentally ******** would say. Maps are not unbalanced ur dumb for saying that hope you get some actual skill soon

Ok. So say I have one million SP spent on optimizing only one suit and weapon. I'm going to be awesome in that role for my tier, but I will lack versatility and adaptability.

I, myself, favor a bit of adaptability. Rather than pigeon holing myself into one role at the start, I've diversified a little bit, just a little. So AR to AR, you'll most likely own me, but then, I can change up and own you with an HMG or Sniper rifle. Perhaps even with my FG.

The fallacy in your reasoning is thinking the problem is related to SP earned when it's really with the play style of the people on your team. That's why when I go alone onto a pub match I go expecting to get little to no support. As a primary heavy, I can't count how many times my team mates have just taken off leaving me behind because they don't want to wait for the slow heavy.