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Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:26:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:
Training Simulator 500 - 1 mill points
Tier 1 - 1.01 - 2 mill points
Tier 2 - 2.01 - 3 mill points
Tier 3 - 3.01 - 4 mill points
etc... etc...
I like how your thinking, but I would prefer it based on the meta level of the gear you're using. We all get to choose our "favorite" Dropsuit in the fitting screen, and while this does allow us to choose how we appear to other players in the Warbarge, it could also help with match making.
So if the suit you've "favorited" has an average meta level of say, 3, then you would only be placed in matches with people who have the ability to run the same gear. This would be based on the average meta level of you gear, and not on the individual peices. You could also palce a restriction that says that players can't run higher level gear during that match. A player should always be allowed to run lower gear if they choose, but they can't come into a meta level 0 match (brand new players most likely), with all level 5 gear.
So you could have it Tier this way:
Tier 1: Meta Level 0.0-0.9
Tier 2: Meta Level 1.0-1.9
Tier 3: Meta Level 2.0-2.9
Tier 4: Meta Level 3.0-3.9
Tier 5: Meta Level 4.0-4.9
Tier 6: Meta Level 5
So players might have the skill level to advance to the next Tier, but might still have to wait while they grind the ISK to purchase the higher weapons and equipment neccessary to challenge the higher Tier players |
Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:26:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:[I feel this would not quite work because while dust is about skill it is also about game experience a player advances his skills in a first person shoot through practice making it so that he can take out someone a better suit. What if this experienced player simply equips low level grade suits to get in lower meta tiers. For example he deletes all his expensive suits and equips only a standard suit so he can own noobs. The sp system is something players can't cheat they are in fixed matches and squads get an average so its pretty fair. But thank you for actually helping this idea grow and not posting trolling comments.
The reason I went with Meta Level is exactly that. Let me explain. Yes you will have players that will run lower level suits and go pubstomping. Griefers are allowed in the EVE universe, and this would just be Dust's version of that. Secondly it prevents higher level players from coming in and helping newer players out. Corps like Dust University, who is exist almost solely to help out new and inexperienced players would no longer be able to offer their seveices as they would be prevented from entering matches with their "students". Corp Recruiters, who are always on the look out for fresh blood, wouldn't be able to check out the in coming player base.
Basing it SP limits players, and puts the entire system in the hands of an AI. Basing it on Meta Level puts the control in the hands of players, where it should be.
If I have a friend who wants to play Dust and joins right now, using your system, I wouldn't be able to enter matches with him, show him the ropes or really answer any questions he might have during a match. That kind of silence will make the learning curve of this game even more frustrating to newer players. Basing it on Meta Levels allows the helpful players we currently have to keep doing what they're doing, and keeps the more experienced Mercs (who don't care about newberries) fighting players of their own caliber. Which is where they want to be anyway. |
Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:57:00 -
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^ And then you run into the same problem you have right now; inexperienced players being curb stomped by more advanced players running higher level gear. Let's say that I have 5 mil SP's (I don't, but let's say that I do), my friend comes in as a brand new player with 500K SP's. That put's the average at 2.75 Mil SP's, which is 2 Tiers higher than where he should be starting off at.
The Meta Level system sets the bar on the lower level player, not the higher. So, same situation, only this time I'm running with starting gear just like he is, and most of the competition is on approximately the same skill level as my friend. This would help cut the learning curve a bit for those with mentors in the game. |
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