DUST Search - Why you shouldn't vote for Black Jackal for CSM 8 to be a Dust 514 ambassador.

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

To Nex.

The problem is that Jackal is nearly incapable of listening. You can't be a good leader if you can't listen at all. The one time the one time he showed up in the IRC channels to talk to the IRC crew and CPM he basically said dust 514's biggest problem is that null sec space in eve has no wars. I tore him a new one on that and he then replies that we're a bunch of separaists which is entirely untrue at all. We just don't want both games to train wreck into each other.

Hans understood our plights much better, because I can see him throwing the controller at the screen just like any one of us could have. He expressed his opinion in a very open and debatable manner, presented well, background well, and fit right in among us.

Overall he's rude, ego-inflated, generates the vibe that dust 514'ers are second class citizens, and what pisses me off more than anything his eve side ideas are absolutely without thought and nearly idiotic, which means he hasn't done enough 0.0 to understand 0.0.

I've done the null sec WARs for 2 years in Eve, though tactics and ships change, I know the issues out there.


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Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:15:00 - [1] - Quote Now this is getting interesting... Starts to seem to me like there is some sort of a personal feud between the two. Squints For now, I will take neither side, because I didn't listen to the podcast yet and can't decide whether Jackal's justifications are true or not. Let's see how this situation will turn out.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:34:00 - [2] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Bad form Iron Wolf. Very bad. I have a huge problem with the "don't vote for so and so" attitude. It's terrible, even if Jackal is a uninformed as your post says. You should recommend reasons to vote for others, instead of just slating someone. Atleast, "so and so would be a better CSM member than so and so". I might have to run for CSM at this rate. I'd be awesomes. Best reason to not vote for someone? Because you're voting for awesome Tony :P QFT. Anyways, just listened to the podcast and have a question for the OP. Iron Wolf, what has this man done to you? What connection is there between you and Jackal that causes you to be so one-sided and aggressive in your opinion on his campaign? I have almost nothing in the interview that you drew your conclusions based on. Endgame issue? Saw many people here referring to 'endgame' as null sec, and the reasoning for endgame being different for everyone seems fine to me. Didn't see anything about half of the population voting either. Jackal, in fact, seemed to have knowledge of Dusters' inability to vote for the CSM, thus he even offered the Aurum package to allow them to buy their right to vote. These are just few examples, I could go on and on. There are certainly flaws in his campaign, but it is obvious that you can't satisfy everyone. While I don't agree with his point that Dust shouldn't have its own council, I believe it is a must to have our representative in the EVE CSM. And if that wouldn't be the case, I'd be entirely on his side, just because you were in such a hurry to unreasonably attack him. Overall, I'm not surprised to see you hastily making biased and unsupported assumptions, Iron Wolf. You've done it before. But this... Seems like, for the most part, you are making a mountain out of a molehill without even a molehill to begin with.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:00:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To Nex. The problem is that Jackal is nearly incapable of listening. You can't be a good leader if you can't listen at all. The one time the one time he showed up in the IRC channels to talk to the IRC crew and CPM he basically said dust 514's biggest problem is that null sec space in eve has no wars. I tore him a new one on that and he then replies that we're a bunch of separaists which is entirely untrue at all. We just don't want both games to train wreck into each other. Hans understood our plights much better, because I can see him throwing the controller at the screen just like any one of us could have. He expressed his opinion in a very open and debatable manner, presented well, background well, and fit right in among us. Overall he's rude, ego-inflated, generates the vibe that dust 514'ers are second class citizens, and what pisses me off more than anything his eve side ideas are absolutely without thought and nearly idiotic, which means he hasn't done enough 0.0 to understand 0.0. I've done the null sec WARs for 2 years in Eve, though tactics and ships change, I know the issues out there. Well, now I see your point. However, it was quite unclear from the original post, since no information about that IRC debate was included. I suggest you put it in, so those unfamiliar with the matter, like I was, will not be confused. But thank you for clarifying. By the way, some of his points were quite good, in my opinion.