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ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:24:00 -
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shouldn't be the other way around since the Douvolle is a prototype weapon? |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:25:00 -
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No, exile is special. |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:26:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:No exile is special.
Actually the Exile has a considerable amount of less recoil then the Douvolle when fired. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:29:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:No exile is special. Actually the Exile has a considerable amount of less recoil then the Douvolle when fired.
Exactly it is special. Look up the meaning of special.
And read its description. |
Barack Ownbama
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:31:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:No exile is special. Actually the Exile has a considerable amount of less recoil then the Douvolle when fired. Exactly it is special. Look up the meaning of special. And read its description. Look up how to use a comma
"No exile is special" = Exile is not special
"No, Exile is special" = Exile is special |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:32:00 -
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duvolle has higher damage than the exile. add damage mods then its an overall weapon. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:33:00 -
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Barack Ownbama wrote:Look up how to use a comma
"No exile is special" = Exile's are not special
"No, Exile is special" = Exile is special
Oops, thanks for pointing that out.
Oh, I may be nitpicking, but you are complaining about my lack of comma when you don't even use end punctuation. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.14 00:48:00 -
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I always thought prototypes had greatly improved stats but sacrificed stability because the word 'prototype' means an early sample or model; not a finished product. Prototypes are built to test (ironically we're in beta) and learned from, not to use in every day life.
Example: a prototype hair dryer might dry hair at incredible speeds but result in a burnt scalp.
But apparently that is not so here. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.14 01:01:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:I always thought prototypes had greatly improved stats but sacrificed stability because the word 'prototype' means an early sample or model; not a finished product. Prototypes are built to test (ironically we're in beta) and learned from, not to use in every day life.
Example: a prototype hair dryer might dry hair at incredible speeds but result in a burnt scalp.
But apparently that is not so here.
Exactly, it amuses me how a 'prototype' is superior to every other tier, when, like you said, they are test models. Not only that but the fact that they are mass produced for us to buy.
Maybe one day we will get the "final version" of these "prototypes"? |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.14 01:18:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:I always thought prototypes had greatly improved stats but sacrificed stability because the word 'prototype' means an early sample or model; not a finished product. Prototypes are built to test (ironically we're in beta) and learned from, not to use in every day life.
Example: a prototype hair dryer might dry hair at incredible speeds but result in a burnt scalp.
But apparently that is not so here. Exactly, it amuses me how a 'prototype' is superior to every other tier, when, like you said, they are test models. Not only that but the fact that they are mass produced for us to buy. Maybe one day we will get the "final version" of these "prototypes"?
I think we can safely assume that officer weapons are the finished versions?
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Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.14 01:42:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:shouldn't be the other way around since the Douvolle is a prototype weapon?
C'mon man, you have to think of this the way the DEVs would.
Make a crap weapon and give it to the newbies. Must be stable so they do not complain. After all, they haven't leveled up. Give the hand of God to the pros, and make it fantastically powerful. Must be balanced though. Then in that case, more kick it is! Simply makes sense. It may be annoying, but at least it makes the field that much more level. Like i said, for the newberries.
And besides, more damage output means more forces acting on the gun means more kick. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.14 01:48:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:shouldn't be the other way around since the Douvolle is a prototype weapon? C'mon man, you have to think of this the way the DEVs would. Make a crap weapon and give it to the newbies. Must be stable so they do not complain. After all, they haven't leveled up. Give the hand of God to the pros, and make it fantastically powerful. Must be balanced though. Then in that case, more kick it is! Simply makes sense. It may be annoying, but at least it makes the field that much more level. Like i said, for the newberries. And besides, more damage output means more forces acting on the gun means more kick. That actually makes no sense, you don't give lower tier weapons such a considerable advantage in a game like this. The idea is to skill up in certain areas to gain better gear. If you have some of the best weapons to start out with and put penalties on the higher tier weapon that completely defeats the purpose, noob or pro has nothing to do with it.. |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.14 01:51:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:shouldn't be the other way around since the Douvolle is a prototype weapon? C'mon man, you have to think of this the way the DEVs would. Make a crap weapon and give it to the newbies. Must be stable so they do not complain. After all, they haven't leveled up. Give the hand of God to the pros, and make it fantastically powerful. Must be balanced though. Then in that case, more kick it is! Simply makes sense. It may be annoying, but at least it makes the field that much more level. Like i said, for the newberries. And besides, more damage output means more forces acting on the gun means more kick. That actually makes no sense, you don't give lower tier weapons such a considerable advantage in a game like this. The idea is to skill up in certain areas to gain better gear. If you have some of the best weapons to start out with and put penalties on the higher tier weapon that completely defeats the purpose, noob or pro has nothing to do with it.. ^^ this |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.14 02:16:00 -
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What is this love with damage mods? You lose all your defence and become paper for raw power |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.02.14 02:44:00 -
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The thing is the exile is special; Newberries don't have them because it is from the closed beta.
Also damage mods can make a Douvolle a lot more damage and more damage means less shots to kill, and less shots means the less you have to manage recoil.
Try to burst your shots more, the only spray and pray weapons are the machine guns. |
ImperfectFan514
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Posted - 2013.02.14 02:54:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:The thing is the exile is special; Newberries don't have them because it is from the closed beta.
Also like Zitro says damage mods can make a Douvolle a lot more damage and more damage means less shots to kill, and less shots means the less you have to manage recoil.
Try to burst your shots more, the only spray and pray weapons are the machine guns.
I have one of the highest infantry KDR's in this game and can play better than the majority of players in this game. However it makes absolutely no sense that the exile AR (basically a BPO standard AR) has less recoil than the Douvolle does. This proves that who ever is handling the weapons still doesn't have a clue what they are doing. CCP might as well give a job to Scott Rudi. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.02.14 03:01:00 -
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How is the difference in recoil between the standard assault rifle and the proto?
Because I don't see really what the problem is with the exile having less recoil when it is a special weapon.(I like my special weapon...) |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.14 03:08:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:The thing is the exile is special; Newberries don't have them because it is from the closed beta.
Also like Zitro says damage mods can make a Douvolle a lot more damage and more damage means less shots to kill, and less shots means the less you have to manage recoil.
Try to burst your shots more, the only spray and pray weapons are the machine guns. I have one of the highest infantry KDR's in this game and can play better than the majority of players in this game. However it makes absolutely no sense that the exile AR (basically a BPO standard AR) has less recoil than the Douvolle does. This proves that who ever is handling the weapons still doesn't have a clue what they are doing. CCP might as well give a job to Scott Rudi.
The protobear23 believes it can hide under an alt, yet Kira Lannister the protobear extraordinaire sees through the disguise. You see the protobear can not hide it's true nature. If you notice his inability to take any type of advice has led to his hostile reaction. He has resorted to his kdr as a reassurance of his dominance upon the dust 514 world (read upon small pistol complex). He will soon threaten all combatants to a duel. The protobear is now reaching proto-type weapons. Expectation is not meeting reality. His tears come in the form of QQ thread.
Balance is the answer, but he can not see beyond his teary eyes. Poor Protobear :[ |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.14 03:20:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:The thing is the exile is special; Newberries don't have them because it is from the closed beta.
Also like Zitro says damage mods can make a Douvolle a lot more damage and more damage means less shots to kill, and less shots means the less you have to manage recoil.
Try to burst your shots more, the only spray and pray weapons are the machine guns. I have one of the highest infantry KDR's in this game and can play better than the majority of players in this game. However it makes absolutely no sense that the exile AR (basically a BPO standard AR) has less recoil than the Douvolle does. This proves that who ever is handling the weapons still doesn't have a clue what they are doing. CCP might as well give a job to Scott Rudi. The protobear23 believes it can hide under an alt, yet Kira Lannister the protobear extraordinaire sees through the disguise. You see the protobear can not hide it's true nature. If you notice his inability to take any type of advice has led to his hostile reaction. He has resorted to his kdr as a reassurance of his dominance upon the dust 514 world (read upon small pistol complex). He will soon threaten all combatants to a duel. The protobear is now reaching proto-type weapons. Expectation is not meeting reality. His tears come in the form of QQ thread. Balance is the answer, but he can not see beyond his teary eyes. Poor Protobear :[ If only i could like this a thousand times....
Kira, you're my hero! |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
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Posted - 2013.02.14 03:25:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:What is this love with damage mods? You lose all your defence and become paper for raw power All rookie make this mistake, give them a chance lol |
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poopchucker9900
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.14 04:14:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:I always thought prototypes had greatly improved stats but sacrificed stability because the word 'prototype' means an early sample or model; not a finished product. Prototypes are built to test (ironically we're in beta) and learned from, not to use in every day life.
Example: a prototype hair dryer might dry hair at incredible speeds but result in a burnt scalp.
But apparently that is not so here. Exactly, it amuses me how a 'prototype' is superior to every other tier, when, like you said, they are test models. Not only that but the fact that they are mass produced for us to buy. Maybe one day we will get the "final version" of these "prototypes"? u got a finished version of prototype AR's it's called the militia assault rifle
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.14 05:50:00 -
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.....because this is by far the most screwed up part of the beta.
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Imp Smash
On The Brink
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Posted - 2013.02.14 06:01:00 -
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Recoil is the first thing one nullifies with skill. So it makes sense to me that advanced weapons would have that requirement for effective use. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.14 07:46:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Barack Ownbama wrote:Look up how to use a comma
"No exile is special" = Exile's are not special
"No, Exile is special" = Exile is special Oops, thanks for pointing that out. Oh, I may be nitpicking, but you are complaining about my lack of comma when you don't even use end punctuation.
Send some aloe vira to the White House. Barack just got epically burned. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.14 07:51:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Recoil is the first thing one nullifies with skill. So it makes sense to me that advanced weapons would have that requirement for effective use. This^ |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.02.14 07:51:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:The thing is the exile is special; Newberries don't have them because it is from the closed beta.
Also like Zitro says damage mods can make a Douvolle a lot more damage and more damage means less shots to kill, and less shots means the less you have to manage recoil.
Try to burst your shots more, the only spray and pray weapons are the machine guns. I have one of the highest infantry KDR's in this game and can play better than the majority of players in this game. However it makes absolutely no sense that the exile AR (basically a BPO standard AR) has less recoil than the Douvolle does. This proves that who ever is handling the weapons still doesn't have a clue what they are doing. CCP might as well give a job to Scott Rudi. The protobear23 believes it can hide under an alt, yet Kira Lannister the protobear extraordinaire sees through the disguise. You see the protobear can not hide it's true nature. If you notice his inability to take any type of advice has led to his hostile reaction. He has resorted to his kdr as a reassurance of his dominance upon the dust 514 world (read upon small pistol complex). He will soon threaten all combatants to a duel. The protobear is now reaching proto-type weapons. Expectation is not meeting reality. His tears come in the form of QQ thread. Balance is the answer, but he can not see beyond his teary eyes. Poor Protobear :[
This is hilarious....Kira, you are awesome....lol |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.14 07:51:00 -
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Barack Ownbama wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:No exile is special. Actually the Exile has a considerable amount of less recoil then the Douvolle when fired. Exactly it is special. Look up the meaning of special. And read its description. Look up how to use a comma "No exile is special" = Exile is not special "No, Exile is special" = Exile is special
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