DUST Search - Increase Dropship CPU/PG

Jason Pearson wrote:

Shouper of BHD wrote:

"we allready ahve a gunship on the way" that was speculation.

What was speculation? It's already confirmed we will have Gunships along with Fighters and MTACs

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"who would use repair for tanks like in the photo" ....... i tried and must agree it better with LAVs but when you have a budyd using a tank copsting sevral mill its something that should be grabbed.

Its a bad idea, you want to know what's better? Logi Sica. There, a fraction of the cost and can fit more.

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I actully survived sevral shots from a FG...... again all out pilot skills and spent alot in sheilds.....

You think as a Dropship Pilot I didn't do that? All my skills are focused on Piloting. One can survive a couple of Forge Gun shots but wait til they've got a Proto Forge and they two shot you, hooray. Same with a railgun. Proto Railgun with triple damage mods will one shot you out of the sky. We don't have enough eHP for our job, that's blatantly obvious.

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asm for the other comment, we were talking HMGs, swarmers (I would not be surprised if) they get some what of a buff in range for the full game since by then it would be to short.

Um? What?

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Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.02.13 16:45:00 - [1] - Quote Everybody knows that Dropships are ridiculously weak for their cost, a good Dropship can cost a load of ISK (I believe mine was up to about 700k ISK) and yet they're weak due to being unable to fit proper modules. Instead of just "increasing dropship health", give us more CPU and PG. Give a lot more to the Eryx and Prometheus too, they're ridiculous underpowered and pilots receive a CRU for their troubles.
Pays 2 Win Shining Flame Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.02.13 17:05:00 - [2] - Quote Agreed and +1
Dias Bailey the Aurum Grinder and Company 10	Posted - 2013.02.13 17:13:00 - [3] - Quote my grimsnes has 206/681 CPU/PG. it costs me 700k to bring it on the field. i rarely loose it. lvl1 DS's are right where they should be.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.13 17:27:00 - [4] - Quote Same for the lavs
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 37	Posted - 2013.02.13 17:28:00 - [5] - Quote the advanced logistics class should have an increase of CPU/PG considering its advanced lv and logistics but nothing huge, beside that I must disigree, just set up your HP correctly and it will be you chasing the swarmers not them chasing you to your hiding place.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2013.02.13 17:34:00 - [6] - Quote The advanced dropships also need additional slots over those in the standard category in order to be able to use that PG and CPU. The HAVs get this, so why not dropships?
Dias Bailey the Aurum Grinder and Company 10	Posted - 2013.02.13 17:40:00 - [7] - Quote train skills for fitting req.s. i have more problems from silly collision mechanics and ppl calling in rdv's (in hopes they collide with my dropship) than i do anything else.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 37	Posted - 2013.02.13 17:54:00 - [8] - Quote Dias Bailey wrote: train skills for fitting req.s. i have more problems from silly collision mechanics and ppl calling in rdv's (in hopes they collide with my dropship) than i do anything else. same here, but don`t tell them the secret to having a dropship as strong as some tanks (becuse it can`t be upgrading skills into it xD PS all my SP goes to pilot tech, by going for 1 roll you tend to have better stuff then people with sevral roles) as for the advanced logistics ALSO having an additinal slot comment, I disigree, the advanced should have a built in CRU and a little more CPU/PG but less HP since logistics is support not fight. the proto should definitly have a huige PG/CPU count, 1 mroe slot and CRU built in as well as HP worth a normal type adcvance lv dropship. something i look forward to is a maruader class dropship "target rich envirment, guns, guns, guns.'
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:15:00 - [9] - Quote I'll just leave this here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=537856#post537856
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:16:00 - [10] - Quote -_- So response to the "It's Logistics not Fight", Dropships aren't meant to fight in the first place. We will have Gunships for fighting, all Dropships are technically Logistics but at this current moment in time, why use them as logistics? We've all seen the pictures of a Dropship repairing a Tank but in reality who would be idiotic enough to do that? The current base PG/CPU limits us so severely we cannot make Tanked Dropships to survive a couple of Forge Gun shots. For the guy in the Armor Dropship, good for you, the shield Dropships do not have the same PG/CPU as you and both are still pitiful, I'd like to see PG nearing 800-1000 to be useful. Your comment about "setting up your HP correctly" is just bad. I can fit Azeotropic extenders, two of those = a single Militia Forge Gun shot, I could probably fit a max of four with a booster, meaning I can tank three shots from a Militia Forge Gun wooh. Ridiculous. Also, "train fitting skills" lol, because the PG/CPU of a Dropship is so low, those extra 25% mean nothing. I know this already.

Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:17:00 - [11] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: -_- So response to the "It's Logistics not Fight", Dropships aren't meant to fight in the first place. We will have Gunships for fighting, all Dropships are technically Logistics but at this current moment in time, why use them as logistics? We've all seen the pictures of a Dropship repairing a Tank but in reality who would be idiotic enough to do that? The current base PG/CPU limits us so severely we cannot make Tanked Dropships to survive a couple of Forge Gun shots. For the guy in the Armor Dropship, good for you, the shield Dropships do not have the same PG/CPU as you and both are still pitiful, I'd like to see PG nearing 800-1000 to be useful. Your comment about "setting up your HP correctly" is just bad. I can fit Azeotropic extenders, two of those = a single Militia Forge Gun shot, I could probably fit a max of four with a booster, meaning I can tank three shots from a Militia Forge Gun wooh. Ridiculous. Also, "train fitting skills" lol, because the PG/CPU of a Dropship is so low, those extra 25% mean nothing. I know this already. I love the paradox. Shield Dropship sacrifices propulsion modules for tank Armor Dropship sacrifices propulsion in general for tank Yet neither have enough EHP to do much good in the field and are supposed to "get out of dodge" when **** does hit the fan. Fission Mailed.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 37	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:21:00 - [12] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: -_- So response to the "It's Logistics not Fight", Dropships aren't meant to fight in the first place. We will have Gunships for fighting, all Dropships are technically Logistics but at this current moment in time, why use them as logistics? We've all seen the pictures of a Dropship repairing a Tank but in reality who would be idiotic enough to do that? The current base PG/CPU limits us so severely we cannot make Tanked Dropships to survive a couple of Forge Gun shots. For the guy in the Armor Dropship, good for you, the shield Dropships do not have the same PG/CPU as you and both are still pitiful, I'd like to see PG nearing 800-1000 to be useful. Your comment about "setting up your HP correctly" is just bad. I can fit Azeotropic extenders, two of those = a single Militia Forge Gun shot, I could probably fit a max of four with a booster, meaning I can tank three shots from a Militia Forge Gun wooh. Ridiculous. Also, "train fitting skills" lol, because the PG/CPU of a Dropship is so low, those extra 25% mean nothing. I know this already. "we allready ahve a gunship on the way" that was speculation. "who would use repair for tanks like in the photo" ....... i tried and must agree it better with LAVs but when you have a budyd using a tank copsting sevral mill its something that should be grabbed. I actully survived sevral shots from a FG...... again all out pilot skills and spent alot in sheilds..... asm for the other comment, we were talking HMGs, swarmers (I would not be surprised if) they get some what of a buff in range for the full game since by then it would be to short.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:27:00 - [13] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: "we allready ahve a gunship on the way" that was speculation. What was speculation? It's already confirmed we will have Gunships along with Fighters and MTACs Quote: "who would use repair for tanks like in the photo" ....... i tried and must agree it better with LAVs but when you have a budyd using a tank copsting sevral mill its something that should be grabbed. Its a bad idea, you want to know what's better? Logi Sica. There, a fraction of the cost and can fit more. Quote: I actully survived sevral shots from a FG...... again all out pilot skills and spent alot in sheilds..... You think as a Dropship Pilot I didn't do that? All my skills are focused on Piloting. One can survive a couple of Forge Gun shots but wait til they've got a Proto Forge and they two shot you, hooray. Same with a railgun. Proto Railgun with triple damage mods will one shot you out of the sky. We don't have enough eHP for our job, that's blatantly obvious. Quote: asm for the other comment, we were talking HMGs, swarmers (I would not be surprised if) they get some what of a buff in range for the full game since by then it would be to short. Um? What?
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:31:00 - [14] - Quote I think a big solution would be to allow passengers to fire out the sides. I mean, come on - you realize how infuriating it would be to LAV/HAV drivers to have a Forge Gunner fire at them from inside of a Dropship? Or a Swarm Launcher? I would kill clone troopers to see this.
Dias Bailey the Aurum Grinder and Company 10	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:00:00 - [15] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Also, "train fitting skills" lol, because the PG/CPU of a Dropship is so low, those extra 25% mean nothing. I know this already. i am using 681 out of 681 pg on my dropship. i would not be able to fit what i want without engineering and armor upgrades level 5. don't forget that these are tier 1 dropships. what you are asking for is a tier 5, or tech 2 dropship.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 432	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:23:00 - [16] - Quote Yeah just blew 310 K SP to kill Circuitry and really helped out my fittings. Now for that Combat Engineering, those blasters are leeches on my PG.
Lorilai Libertas the Aurum Grinder and Company 20	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:30:00 - [17] - Quote anyone who wants a hand fitting their dropship, msg me ingame. i would love to help.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:45:00 - [18] - Quote I had every dropship stat maxed last build. I had my Myron set up to be as tanky as could possibly be accomplished with Caldari gear. I literally teach other players how to fly, and get comments about my piloting skills almost every time someone rides along with me. Dropships are too weak. The problem is that AV has been balanced against tanks, not dropships. Even with the absolute most stacked eHP ship in the game, Forge Gunners could still take down my 700,000+ ISK dropship from almost any distance, in two shots. That's not enough time for even the most skilled pilot to implement evasive manuevers. You get hit with the first from somewhere randomly on the map (could be anywhere, forge guns have enough range to cover almost the entire distance of the current maps) and you then have the amount of time it takes the forge gunner to recharge his gun to figure out where the shot came from and get an entire maps distance away from the threat (or, best case scenario, get an obstacle between you and them).
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 37	Posted - 2013.02.14 01:49:00 - [19] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Shouper of BHD wrote: "we allready ahve a gunship on the way" that was speculation. What was speculation? It's already confirmed we will have Gunships along with Fighters and MTACs Quote: "who would use repair for tanks like in the photo" ....... i tried and must agree it better with LAVs but when you have a budyd using a tank copsting sevral mill its something that should be grabbed. Its a bad idea, you want to know what's better? Logi Sica. There, a fraction of the cost and can fit more. Quote: I actully survived sevral shots from a FG...... again all out pilot skills and spent alot in sheilds..... You think as a Dropship Pilot I didn't do that? All my skills are focused on Piloting. One can survive a couple of Forge Gun shots but wait til they've got a Proto Forge and they two shot you, hooray. Same with a railgun. Proto Railgun with triple damage mods will one shot you out of the sky. We don't have enough eHP for our job, that's blatantly obvious. Quote: asm for the other comment, we were talking HMGs, swarmers (I would not be surprised if) they get some what of a buff in range for the full game since by then it would be to short. Um? What? the last comemnt was to someone else. I have taken proto swarms and FG htis and bearly escaped (most of the time the the frame rate drops and I die by a proto FG though). Also you didn`t say proto FG so why are you disrespecting me when I was going off of what you said? i ment no disrespect. the Sica idea is a much better idea. you know how much CCP does wordplay right? brace yourself in the next 6 years you`ll notice a little word play CCP has inplaneted. PS is a MTAC a mech? thenh yes that was confirmed as later in the years.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 168	Posted - 2013.02.14 01:51:00 - [20] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Everybody knows that Dropships are ridiculously weak for their cost, a good Dropship can cost a load of ISK (I believe mine was up to about 700k ISK) and yet they're weak due to being unable to fit proper modules. Instead of just "increasing dropship health", give us more CPU and PG. Give a lot more to the Eryx and Prometheus too, they're ridiculous underpowered and pilots receive a CRU for their troubles. Add [Feedback] or [Request] into the beginning of your subject. That makes it easier to scan for.

Gloomy Cobra Starship Troppers 0	Posted - 2013.02.19 03:05:00 - [21] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Everybody knows that Dropships are ridiculously weak for their cost, a good Dropship can cost a load of ISK (I believe mine was up to about 700k ISK) and yet they're weak due to being unable to fit proper modules. Instead of just "increasing dropship health", give us more CPU and PG. Give a lot more to the Eryx and Prometheus too, they're ridiculous underpowered and pilots receive a CRU for their troubles. I am having the same troupe right now i have gotten my Prometheus and i cant fit Level 1 things they are cheap but the PG and CPU they take are just ridiculous and i hurts me to see a tank who just plays for himself get a lot of PG and CPU just simply because they are tanks and in general need to take more hits so they need more... WTF CCP i thought you were promoting teamwork! How the hell i'm i supposed to keep a friendly militia tank alive if i cant get a remote repair module on me so i can help eh? dammm
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2013.02.19 03:12:00 - [22] - Quote So no one agrees that the lav also needs more pg/cpu?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.02.19 03:15:00 - [23] - Quote standard and higher LAVs and and dropships aren't currently worth their costs.


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