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Busty M4rinara
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:35:00 -
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Are there enough threads about this? NO.
When a crappy tank cost 1/2 mill, and good tanks costing 2m, you expect a certain lvl of badassery. And while tanks are bad ass in general, they are clunky as hell. "no ****, they are a tank". Not my point. If i drive a jeep, i feel like im driving on glass. If i drive a tank, i feel like im tying to get my grandmother out of bed.
The Biggest issue i have with vehicles are the sticks. So lets say you are a gunner in the back of the jeep, have you NOT NOTICED that the turret isnt tied to the jeep? DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?! So if the jeep turns right, your turret isnt at a fixed position. So every time the jeep turns your turret doesnt stay with the front of the vehicle. Annoying.
And whoever thought that one stick to drive a vehicle was a good idea needs to be fired. You need duel joysticks to drive a tank effectively for more control. An easy layout to use would be from call of duty 2. Good controls for tanks, felt very natural. The left stick should be the gas petal only. So forward and backward. Thats it. Right stick is turret. L2/R2 should be what is used to turn the tank left/right.
While we are talking about tanks: here is another suggestion. R2. R2?! You know what i mean, hold R2, select 1-3 options that you need RIGHT THEN, aim, shoot at the same time. Good Luck. I understand using 'R2' to switch weapons, but why not tie the armor rep, hardners, ect to the X, Y, Z buttons?? AND LET US CHOOSE WHICH ACTION GOES TO WHICH BUTTON. CUSTOMIZATION!!
I would kill to be able to hit triangle to activate reps while punching square to turn on hardeners. The entire time being able to aim with L1 and smash R1 to lay the law.
Tanks need more control. Atm, it feels bad, and when **** hits the fan (like another tank rounding the corner), if you dont have your hardeners/reps pre-going (which rarely happens) its a WTF shoot till someone dies. And regardless of who dies, that person more-often-than-not didnt get to use his tank to its full potential. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
175
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:16:00 -
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+1 For vehicle control mapping.
Active modules mapped to triangle, square, etc. is a great idea.
I'd also love to see a rearview mirror on meh tank. |
Mortal Maximus
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:20:00 -
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yh, i agree :) |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:39:00 -
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Are you sure you're not just talking about armor tanks?
I have a hard time believing anyone would feel shield tanks are clunky. I zip past the scenery in a Sica. |
Busty M4rinara
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:40:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Are you sure you're not just talking about armor tanks?
I have a hard time believing anyone would feel shield tanks are clunky. I zip past the scenery in a Sica.
Im not talking about speed as much as im refering to the single stick for tank controls. Have you tried to back up in a tight spot with a single stick? Its a pain in the neck. And it should be very very simple compared to other controls. |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:03:00 -
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I get around just fine in my alt's gunnlogi, but then again, it's a gunnlogi. But there are a lot of redundant or needless control mapping that would be better serves for modules. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
335
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:36:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion to Feedback/Request.
Thanks. |
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Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:10:00 -
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+1
Basic vehicle control problems have gotten my killed more often than anything else.
HAV
I need to just back up a bit to get into cover, but I have to turn just a bit to stay on the road and not hit the rock wall. But the tank turns in the opposite direction than I wanted because of the coupled functions and I hit the wall. By the time I jockey it around to back up I've been hit several more times and I'm on fire. Frustrating.
It doesn't happen all the time, just frequently enough to be a PITA.
And yes, you would think that an advanced tech could include a backup camera. We've got them on cars now. Did New Eden lose that nugget of advanced tech?
DS
Tying the camera control to the Yaw stick in the DS means you can't turn when looking down from directly above. I'm not sure what the best solution is, but letting me toggle the viewpoint or have the camera not reposition with the stick might be better, though you would probably need a toggle to the default position.
The ultimate customization would allow me to add rudder pedals and other control devices. You already support the M/K, so allow me to build my own cockpit with dedicated buttons that trigger each module.
That would allow vehicle pilots to set themselves apart from the ground pounders |
Devlin Hawke
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:30:00 -
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Oh god, the vehicle controls. They suck. The Jeep is bad, like you said one stick for control doesn't work. If one of the triggers was throttle and the stick was just for steering like in the Battlefield games that would be fine, but as it is it is just awful. And the tanks. I don't even bother with them. It's no wonder every time someone does call in a tank they just sit in one spot and shot.
It amazes me that something as simple as this, the control lay out, can still get screwed up. Games like Halo and Battlefield got them right years ago. There's nothing wrong with copying the control layout from a game that got them right. |
Busty M4rinara
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
17
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Posted - 2013.02.13 23:48:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:Moved from General Discussion to Feedback/Request.
Thanks.
Once again XD. I guess ill hang out in here from now on :) |
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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.02.14 02:20:00 -
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You do realize that keyboard, mouse and controller remapping has been commented on by the Devs as on the list?
Just saying. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.02.14 02:59:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:You do realize that keyboard, mouse and controller remapping has been commented on by the Devs as on the list?
Just saying.
Remapping active modules is a little beyond normal remapping of actions. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.14 03:05:00 -
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Use keyboard |
Busty M4rinara
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
17
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Posted - 2013.02.14 03:15:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:Use keyboard
I cant kick back on the couch on my 47" TV with a keyboard and mouse. |
kyan west
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.14 04:51:00 -
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I agree the lav is terrible but I can control my tank just fine.... no matter what kind |
Busty M4rinara
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
17
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:50:00 -
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kyan west wrote:I agree the lav is terrible but I can control my tank just fine.... no matter what kind
So i been doing nothing but driving tanks as of late. And while i have the single joystick down, it still is bad. Trying to take a hard right while backing up is near impossible. Or sometimes you want to take a hard right going forward, but your tank wants to back up because the stick is directly to the right and the game cant figure out which direction you want to go. Restrictive. |
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