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Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:29:00 - [1] - Quote Not gonna happen. Eve players have been strongly vocal against this idea of having their own ships being boarded. Now, if you're talking about boarding NPC-controlled ships like the enemy's warbarge, we can keep talking.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:41:00 - [2] - Quote It doesn't matter what you think at this point. Eve players just don't want it and will vote in members for the next CSM elections that make sure CCP doesn't implement that idea of yours. Besides, boarding player-run ships will simply take away the whole point of fighting for control of a skyfire battery installation which is what is needed to deal the blow to Eve ships anyways.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2013.02.13 06:09:00 - [3] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: It doesn't matter what you think at this point. Eve players just don't want it and will vote in members for the next CSM elections that make sure CCP doesn't implement that idea of yours. Besides, boarding player-run ships will simply take away the whole point of fighting for control of a skyfire battery installation which is what is needed to deal the blow to Eve ships anyways. My main point is that like boarding would be, orbitals are done currently without repercussions coming directly from the dust players they're shooting at, that's why I think skyfire batteries should be added soon. In that case, you have to wait. The skyfire battery will come but CCP has bigger issues to deal with first like balancing the market, setting up drone missions, corporate management, map variety, game stability, graphics updates, weapon/vehicle/suit balancing, etc. etc. etc... Also, CCP has a long history of doing things slowly and carefully because this game will have a MAJOR effect on the delicate economy of Eve Online which is their pride and joy. If they rush anything, they risk ruining everything.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2013.02.13 13:31:00 - [4] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: boba's fetta wrote: having dusties running around peoples 2 bill and up dreads no thanks. war barges are one thing but why bother boarding frigates and dessies the ships currently used most for bombardments. both would have very restrictive maps. and wouldnt be worth the losse of the suits required. If boarding was implemented it would most likely be BC and up but that's not the point, in the op I'm comparing boarding to orbitals now, which currently require corps to have eve support to take out the opposing corps support, like when people against boarding state that it makes them too dependant on dust players. I understand your desire to have boarding, but it's a pointless affair because Eve Online players will simply self-destruct their own ships rather than let it fall in the hands of their own enemy. Once the self-destruct is enabled, those mercs will only have two minutes to do their job and that's it before they lose their clones that cost their corp ISK to produce (looking into the future here) and transport. Which brings me to my next point. Player-run corps just won't see any financial gains from it and therefore will not do it. After all, most corps are technically operating like a real-world business that takes into account opportunity costs before making a decision. If you want to take a battlecruiser down with mercs instead of a skyfire battery, you will have to take it up to your CEO about that to see if he even allows it.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2013.02.13 15:06:00 - [5] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Commencing the ship to self destruct or destroying it by some other means seems like the main point of boarding despite what little isk will be lost once the ship is destroyed. Even with full proto loadouts most suits won't top over 700k isk to field which takes literally seconds of ratting to make back. Besides that I should've made it clearer in the op that I'm impartial to boarding having played eve since august and dust months before. I just used it as an example to express the codependance that is required currently tp remove enemy support. There is one minor problem to your comment. You are assuming that in the future the cost of dropsuits will remain the same as they are now. I estimate that once the players have full control of the Dust market (assuming Eve players won't try to corner the market) will be around 10,000,000 ISK per suit fitting for proto suits. No, that's not a typo. That's ten million with a one followed by seven zeroes. This is not accounting for the fluctuating cost of clones bodies, vehicles, installations, etc. Tell me, will it worth it for me to sacrifice a 10,000,000 ISK suit for a ship that will suicide itself? And whose to say that the ship we board won't be accompanied by mercs wielding equally powerful gear if we stick with just militia stuff? My point here is that everything will get expensive once we have control of the market as players and once player-made corp contracts become more lucrative. EDIT: PS: I can imagine the various choke points the defending mercs on board a capsuleer-run ship can setup with all the corridors as stuff. Once the enemy comes in, you just have to place a single HMG-wielding heavy suit on one end of the hall way and cut down the single-file enemy like grass.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2013.02.13 15:12:00 - [6] - Quote SMiTTYCO wrote: I hate to break it to all of you eve players that would like to be able to hit dust players but dust players not being able to hit you, they have already said boarding is something that will be added, most likely not this year but a year and a half to 3 years away. Here you go: http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/22/dust-514-orbital-strike/ I can't wait maybe eve players will stop acting superior when a squad either steals there ship or makes them self destruct. Yikes.

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