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Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.12 14:26:00 - [1] - Quote I hit a small bump in the road and my tank exploded from full health. That is 100% bs. The collision damage is way to high. I had a drop ship and it grazed the side of a building and it died. Armor is way stronger than shields when it comes to collision. Is this how the game is going to be or is this something that is going to be looked at? I understand collision damage and why it is where it is at now. Although I shouldn't be losing that much HP to the map. It's rediculous at this point!
Tribalfreak Baham Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2013.02.12 14:41:00 - [2] - Quote Maybe that small bump was a mine? i've SLAMMED my dropship on the ground and it never blew up and it wasn't tanked at all no extenders no recharges nothing. (i got it so i can just fly around like a nut in the redzone so i can learn to fly lol).
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.12 14:46:00 - [3] - Quote Tribalfreak Baham wrote: Maybe that small bump was a mine? i've SLAMMED my dropship on the ground and it never blew up and it wasn't tanked at all no extenders no recharges nothing. (i got it so i can just fly around like a nut in the redzone so i can learn to fly lol). I'm not a noob and know when a mine blows up a tank. there is this thing called a kill feed
Tribalfreak Baham Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2013.02.12 14:51:00 - [4] - Quote ^ sorry mate. that was ment as a joke. i deleted the "j/k" i had there by mistake lol.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2013.02.12 14:52:00 - [5] - Quote Landing gear can take abuse, but just rub the side of your ship against a building and it will die.
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.12 14:54:00 - [6] - Quote Skihids wrote: Landing gear can take abuse, but just rub the side of your ship against a building and it will die. I field tested this with a dropship and you sir are 100% correct. It is rediculous how soft these things are. I don't know if CCP nerfed and left it alone but I know I hope they didnt nerf it and field test it and leave it..
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2013.02.12 15:10:00 - [7] - Quote You have to treat a dropship as though everything but the landing gear has had a few coats of explosive paint applied. Oddly swarm missiles and FG rounds won't set off the paint, but rubbing a lamp post, rock outcropping, or wall will definitely light it up. I've also had a blueberry run a LAV into me while parked and that set it off as well. His LAV survived.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.12 15:31:00 - [8] - Quote All collision damage is upside down right now, but shield tanks suffer the worst.
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.12 19:54:00 - [9] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: All collision damage is upside down right now, but shield tanks suffer the worst. Collision damage is where it is right now because "noobs" abused how drop ships were supposed to be used. It's not a giant merc swatter! Why the changed collision damage to everything confuses me. Sometimes I wonder about CCP
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.12 19:59:00 - [10] - Quote As well, a response from someone that knows would be awesome. Is this how the game will be or is this going to be altered?

Vaerana Myshtana ScIdama Endless Renaissance 203	Posted - 2013.02.12 20:56:00 - [11] - Quote Well, considering that I've died from sliding a half-meter down a slope, there are definitely some problems with the collision mechanics.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.12 20:58:00 - [12] - Quote Ted Nugget wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: All collision damage is upside down right now, but shield tanks suffer the worst. Collision damage is where it is right now because "noobs" abused how drop ships were supposed to be used. It's not a giant merc swatter! Why the changed collision damage to everything confuses me. Sometimes I wonder about CCP I know, I was there but it really needs changing now because it takes a decent amount of skill to crush with current flight controls
Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 47	Posted - 2013.02.12 21:31:00 - [13] - Quote I do agree the collision damage is too high but not the the degree you describe...
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.14 03:04:00 - [14] - Quote Either way man you shouldn't rub a building with a drop ship and die. As well I have lost a tank to the map from a bump. It is bad
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.02.14 03:08:00 - [15] - Quote Ted Nugget wrote: Either way man you shouldn't rub a building with a drop ship and die. As well I have lost a tank to the map from a bump. It is bad I dunno. Rubbing a building with a helicopter usually ends up pretty bad, and I don't even want to think of what kind of volatile propulsion system the dropship's got.
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.14 03:23:00 - [16] - Quote To bad we don't have helicopters in dust.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.14 03:55:00 - [17] - Quote Do you want to know the best part? The vehicle guy didn't even realize collision damage is so insane. First impressions were it must be a bug (although it has been persistently getting worse so you have to wonder if they every play test ANYTHING). Maybe in a month they'll look into it.
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:44:00 - [18] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Do you want to know the best part? The vehicle guy didn't even realize collision damage is so insane. First impressions were it must be a bug (although it has been persistently getting worse so you have to wonder if they every play test ANYTHING). Maybe in a month they'll look into it. I sure hope so
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 444	Posted - 2013.02.15 06:04:00 - [19] - Quote Ted Nugget wrote: I hit a small bump in the road and my tank exploded from full health. That is 100% bs. The collision damage is way to high. I had a drop ship and it grazed the side of a building and it died. Armor is way stronger than shields when it comes to collision. Is this how the game is going to be or is this something that is going to be looked at? I understand collision damage and why it is where it is at now. Although I shouldn't be losing that much HP to the map. It's rediculous at this point! Armor is way stronger then shields period. People say there's no love for armor and CCP favors shields, skills in armor=Superior to anything shield. +1 though, I've had tanks, even armor explode when hitting things.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2013.02.15 06:13:00 - [20] - Quote i did the same thing with an armor tank, hit a bump at full health and for some reason it thinks i was falling from 2000 meters and exploded.

Landari Zeta Exit Wound Heavy Industries 16	Posted - 2013.02.15 09:03:00 - [21] - Quote Anyone run into a HAV with an LAV at 5mph and just blew up? Its terrible.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:16:00 - [22] - Quote Ted Nugget wrote: I hit a small bump in the road and my tank exploded from full health. That is 100% bs. The collision damage is way to high. I had a drop ship and it grazed the side of a building and it died. Armor is way stronger than shields when it comes to collision. Is this how the game is going to be or is this something that is going to be looked at? I understand collision damage and why it is where it is at now. Although I shouldn't be losing that much HP to the map. It's rediculous at this point! agreed collision dmg is ******** losing a bunch of HP to the map when ur in a tank is just dumb
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:05:00 - [23] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ted Nugget wrote: I hit a small bump in the road and my tank exploded from full health. That is 100% bs. The collision damage is way to high. I had a drop ship and it grazed the side of a building and it died. Armor is way stronger than shields when it comes to collision. Is this how the game is going to be or is this something that is going to be looked at? I understand collision damage and why it is where it is at now. Although I shouldn't be losing that much HP to the map. It's rediculous at this point! Armor is way stronger then shields period. People say there's no love for armor and CCP favors shields, skills in armor=Superior to anything shield. +1 though, I've had tanks, even armor explode when hitting things. I agree in the current build that armor is stronger than shields, depending on what is shooting at you. Shields take more damage from energy damage. Armor takes more damage from explosive damage, missiles av nades, etc. I have field tested the shield theory with missiles shooting at installations. While I was shooting at a supply depot with a missile tank. The supply depot was only taking 70% of damage from my missiles while it was in shields. Once it got into armor it went to 100%. You have to have the right tool to do the job. I don't think people realize this. Most people that I see are spec'n proto forge when the majority of tankers are in armor tanks. It's not my sp though, spend it how you want to. Back to topic, WILL ANYTHING BE DONE ABOUT MAPS KILLING TANKS? CCP do you have an answer? Tanks can literally drive through buildings but yet in this game they die to a bumpy road
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2013.02.21 10:00:00 - [24] - Quote CCP never responds to my questions. I wonder if they even read this thread.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 317	Posted - 2013.02.21 10:37:00 - [25] - Quote We have been doing some testing with regards to collision damage, it seems to have somthing to do with the mass of the vehicle. A shield fit Sica will pop if you ram it with an armor soma however an armor fit Sica will bounce of an armor fit soma. Saying this, i have launched gunlogi of mountains and taken no damage but hit a rock in the road and got insta popped.
Hexen Trickster The Southern Legion 10	Posted - 2013.02.21 11:11:00 - [26] - Quote Iv lost a tank due to map damaged it sucked alot However on 1 of the maps i had a lav ontop of a giant building (hight of the mcc) i drove that badboy off the edge and stuck the landing.. drove 2 meters down the road and died to a lamppost


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