ok? if they are compounding which would they aply first if you aply a 1.08 bonus then a 1.02 bonus it will change the bonuses so which to apply first? or the 1.02 then the 1.08 after a while it will change the numbers significantly so i doubt very much they are compounded. so yeah we would like to have them compounded but they are probably not for simplicity of adding them and not having the whole system bug filled. and i would agree fully to the last post skills get aplied then mods now if you said compoinded that would mean every level up is really 100%+5%of100% then 105%+5%0f105%then 111%+5%0f 111%and so on. so that would mean the end result of a skill is not +25% it is like 30-40% NO WAY. i would think it is base+(5%of base)+(5%of base)+(5%of base) not base+(5%ofbase)+(base+5%ofbase)+(base+5%of(base+5%ofbase))+(base+5%of(base+5%of(base+5%ofbase)))=base*1.05=x
x*1.05=y
y*1.05=z
z*105=new value
and so on that does not make any sense
mods are not additive not completley they are additive with a handicap on double of the same mod. why would some of it be addative like above post and some of it be compounded

Current damage with 3 damage modes and weaponry level 5 and gun damage skill at lv5
100*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.15=168.3715%

Percentage bonus are multiplied not added, so it's worse then the 55% people add up by adding bonus together

If stacking penalty worked it would be
100*1.1*1.1*(1+.1*.87)*(1+.1*.57)*1.15=159.8776%

The forth mod is hit very hard, 10% bonus would only be 2.8%. So instead of making 168.3715*1.1=185.2087%, It makes 159.8876*(1+.1*.28)=164.3645%


So, stacking penalty is not additive at moment, it is missing completely. What is shown in fitting matches what it would be with no penalty

Training level V of a skill that gives you 5% per level gives you a bonus of 25%.

A 10% mod and a 5% mod would give you 15% bonus. Doesn't seem like that's what is being said here.

I know the fitting screen says 2 damage mods gives a 1.21

Maths.... losts of maths........

Correct, cause individual skill levels are stacked.

Incorrect, cause multiple mods/skills are compounded. So in this case 10% mod and 5% mod give you 15.5% bonus

This just proves the above about compounding

This is the way things have worked in EvE for a long time

No it doesn't. It only proves that the damage mods are broken.

Modules are not compounded nor are skills. Weaponry V plus Proficiency V would be 25% bonus to weapon damage, not 26.5%. The only compounding is between the total bonus from all mods and the total bonus from all skills.

Modules are not compounded nor are skills

Skill levels are stacked, but different skills' bonuses are compounded, and so are the mods

Heavy Type-II has base armor stat of 650. With Mechanics V it has 812 armor.

650 x ( 1 + (.05 x 5)) = 812

Assault Type-II has base shield rate of 25. With Shield Boost Systems III the shield rate is 27.25. With 2 Basic Shield Rechargers the rate is 35.42.

25 * ( 1 + ( .03 * 3 )) * ( 1 + ( .15 * 2 )) = 35.42

You need to learn to check things out for yourself

And you can shut the f*ck up the next time adults are talking or you can continue to be an idiot.

Well, you can play EvE and figure it out for yourself (cause in EvE, the fitting screen actually works, and shows all your bonuses with skills, mods, ammo loaded, booster and implant affects applied), or you can continue to believe what you want to believe

Ok, I've completely lost my mind on this thread. I'm sorry I told you to shut the **** up. I've acted like a total ass and it was mostly uncalled for.

[quote=Altina McAlterson]Ok, I've completely lost my mind on this thread. I'm sorry I told you to shut the **** up. I've acted like a total ass and it was mostly uncalled for.