Yes but debates need structure, CCP has laid out that structure already. They have stated what they approve of and do not approve of on the forums. People need to follow the rules. If they do not they need punishments that can deter and effectively punish that behavior, instead of having to go through and "clean up" threads on a regular basis a good stick will prevent them from having to do that kind of work and when they do they can make sure the offender has been corrected for the long term. Losing SP is not something people will gloat about.

So it been going on for about how long? CCP has not done anything thus far so I assume they are not concerned or they feel whats going on is not that bad. I have seen a GM step in a thread and warn people of their behavior and or language. So we have to assume if nothing is said they must not feel a way about it.

Such actions seem so rare compared to the seemingly open hostility on the forums. And some of those people who need to be more civil in their conduct actually have good points on game development on both sides as they are sometimes as well informed about a game mechanic as they are passionate about yelling at each other.

However they still need to tow the line and banning them would just lose what could be a valuable opinion and member of the community. I dont want to throw the baby out with the bathwater :P

I feel my suggestions are far better in shaping how people conduct themselves on the forums instead of just throwing them out.

Yes I can understand that but this is a beta for a game in development. So I feel a more professional work environment culture would produce more then a family oriented one.

Yes but 10-50 year olds can still be controlled, they just need the right motivation and punishments.

Lots of organizations are volunteer but they still maintain effective discipline.

You just have to know what the different demographics are going to be deterred by as effective punishments.

Hitting people in the SP and the play time is a great way of doing that.

Everyone can be managed with the right motivations and punishments.

I want CCP to take a tougher stance.

why is it that because things are bad somewhere else thats a good reason for them to be bad here? How is that a logical way of solving problems?

"well that house over there is on fire so yeah, don't worry about it"

And I dont care about trolling, like I said I care about how CCP reacts to violations of its forum rules and the punishments it uses.

yes it is kind of cruel. So what? Its not like CCP would picking on people innocent of cruelty Its like a robber complaining about how he wont be able to make money at his job because he has to pay a fine for robbing his job. ( could not think of a better metaphor sorry)

Basically its great to throw someone out of a party when the get drunk and mouth off but if its a party they are coming to day after day a more long term strategy would be better, such as restricting how much time they can spend on the dance floor (ie getting sp) and like i said civility would abound afterwards.

Yeah but there are established limits for that, that are more then acceptable for having good passionate arguments. Yet people still decide to play out of bounds.

And CCP would benefit from more business report style feedback. Look at how their stickys are setup in the feedback and other beta work sections, clearly they wanted more structured forum content to begin with. They gave us the locker room for a reason.